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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Bahoz » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:24 pm

FSA started the operations toward Sere Kaniya and all people left the city already toward Amuda. YPG took over the governments places in the city. The regime is sending the support to Sere Kaniya, FSA is on the door of the city and some already entered it! sounds like big battle is starting! People of Amuda is afraid also as the fight is coming close to city also. things are heating up..Kurds forces are calling for unity! and talking to FSA to leave kurdish city once the regime is destroyed there. for who doesn't know west kurdistan cities. below map shows Sere Kaniya and Amuda.

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:47 pm

http://www.meforum.org/3372/kurdish-rivalries-syria Knc and pyd fighting components time to be united.

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Cewlik » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:01 pm

Bahoz wrote:FSA started the operations toward Sere Kaniya and all people left the city already toward Amuda. YPG took over the governments places in the city. The regime is sending the support to Sere Kaniya, FSA is on the door of the city and some already entered it! sounds like big battle is starting! People of Amuda is afraid also as the fight is coming close to city also. things are heating up..Kurds forces are calling for unity! and talking to FSA to leave kurdish city once the regime is destroyed there. for who doesn't know west kurdistan cities. below map shows Sere Kaniya and Amuda.

http://www.jawadmella.net/id13.html


Who is controlling Sere Kaniya now? Why is the YPG not active there, because this city is in the center of west Kurdistan, if the regime or the FSA will get the power there, west Kurdistan will be divided.
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Re: Derik the new kirkuk?

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:55 pm

SamBurhan wrote:By Patrick Markey

DERIK, Syria, Nov 7 (Reuters) - In the northeast corner of Syria a power struggle is developing over the promise of oil riches in the remote Kurdish region, threatening to drag Kurdish rivals, Arab rebels and Turkey into a messy new front in an already complex civil war.

Quietly and with little of the bloodshed seen elsewhere in Syria's 19-month popular revolt against President Bashar al-Assad, the Kurdish minority is grabbing the chance to secure self-rule and the rights denied them for decades.

With Syrian forces and Arab rebels entangled in fighting to their west, a Syrian Kurdish party tied to Turkish Kurd separatists has exploited a vacuum to start Kurdish schools, cultural centres, police stations and armed militias.

But the growing influence of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) is concerning not only Turkey, which is worried that border areas will become a foothold for Turkish Kurd PKK rebels, but also Syrian Arab fighters who see the Kurdish militias as a threat.

At the PYD's office in the Syrian Kurdish town of Derik, where walls bear a portrait of Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) leader Abdullah Ocalan and pictures of members the party says were killed by the Assad regime, the mood is defiant.

"We have our rights, we have our land. We are not refugees here and we will protect ourselves," said PYD activist Mohammed Said. "We cannot accept any force from outside coming here."

Along Syria's border with Iraq, Kurdish militants in jeans and armed with Kalashnikov rifles now guard a frontier post where Assad's army once patrolled the sparse hillsides dotted with now lifeless oil pumps.

In a classroom in nearby Derik, teenage girls practice reading their own Kurdish language, banned in schools until a few months ago, and Syrian Kurdish leaders express ideological loyalty to Ocalan who is jailed in Turkey.

Under Assad's rule and his father's before him, Syrian Kurds were forbidden to learn their language or even to hold Syrian identity and often forced from their land, while their activists were targeted by Syrian intelligence agents.

But after Assad's forces pulled out from the Kurdish region to fight elsewhere six months ago the PYD and its allied People's Defence Units or YPG militia began to claim control of towns up against the Turkish border - Derik, Efrin, Kobane and Amuda.

In Derik, a town of 70,000 sitting amid parched fields, daily life appears normal apart from long lines of people waiting for cooking gas.

Kurdish militia forces man improvised checkpoints made of boulders and tyres. Committees run a Kurdish court and services such as fuel deliveries. At the city's one open school, Syria's Kurmanji Kurdish dialect is openly taught.

"We could never say we were Kurdish before," said Palashin Omar, 18, in the classroom running through grammar drills. "We were never respected before now."

But there is also a clear co-existence with the Syrian state.

The Syrian army maintains its own checkpoint unmolested. The PYD party office is 100 metres from the Syrian intelligence agency office and Assad's Baath party headquarters where portraits of Assad are still on the wall.

PYD activists say they allow a limited government presence for now so they can receive gasoline from Damascus, and that government forces just stay where they are, unable to act.

But suspicions have sharpened dangerous splits with other Syrian Kurdish parties who believe Assad allowed the PYD to consolidate its power and flout an agreement brokered with the smaller Kurdish National Council, or KNC alliance.

"We can say the Kurdish region is liberated once the Syrian army cannot reach it," KNC leader Abdul Hakim Bashar told Reuters. "Right now there is not a single place they couldn't reach if they wanted."


KURDISH SELF-RULE

The fate of the Kurdish region will be key in any post-Assad Syria. Most Syrian Kurds - the country's largest ethnic minority - are wary of a Syrian Arab opposition dominated by Islamists who are hostile to Kurdish self-rule.

Even Syrian Kurdish rivals are split over what type of government they want if Assad falls, whether to follow Iraqi Kurdistan's model of autonomy or simply more self-administration in their areas under a new Syrian government.

Whoever seizes the Kurdish plains nudging against Turkey will control a chunk of Syria's estimated 2.5 billion barrels of crude oil reserves, including fields run by British-based Gulfsands Petroleum until international sanctions on Assad stopped its operations there.

Any eventual Kurdish self-rule in Syria will also have repercussions for Kurdish minorities in neighbouring Turkey and Iran, and strengthen autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan in its dispute with Baghdad's central government over their region's oil.

But the PYD's powerful position poses a dilemma for Iraqi Kurdistan's president Masoud Barzani next door: How to balance support for pan-Kurdish aspirations with Iraqi Kurdistan's growing political and business alliance with Turkey?

Barzani, seen by many Kurds as their natural leader, has worked to unite Syrian Kurdish parties. He helped create the KNC alliance and trained Kurdish refugees to go back to protect Kurdish areas in a challenge to PYD and PKK influence.

For Ankara though, the presence of Kurdish militants on its border shows Assad has allowed the PYD to take over as a way to strengthen the PKK and help it step up its attacks in Turkey and hit back at Turkish support for the rebels fighting Damascus.

Assad's late father sheltered Ocalan until Turkish tanks massed on the Syrian border in 1998 forcing him to expel the PKK leader who was later captured by Turkish agents in Kenya.

Turkish prime minister Tayyip Erdogan has said his country will take action if the PKK launches attacks from Syrian territory, and has conducted military exercises along the border in a clear warning to Damascus. But for now, he has few options.

"Turkey has time to watch how this develops," said Hugh Pope at International Crisis Group. "The PKK are on the offensive in Turkey and Turkey does not need another front."

The PYD dismisses claims it has anything but a political affiliation to PKK militants. But Ocalan's influence is clear.

Syrian Kurds chant at protests, "long live Apo", the PKK leader's nickname, and Kurdish border guards greet visitors wearing Ocalan badges on their jackets. His face stares out from a flag above the sandbagged frontier post near Iraq.

"We don't want to establish our own country, we just want a democratic Syria and the right to administer our areas," said militia commander Ahmed Barhodan, sitting in a home in Derik.


A NEW KIRKUK?

More worrying for the Syrian Kurdish region now though are the recent clashes with Arab fighters battling against Assad.

Dozens of Kurdish militiamen were killed in battles with Free Syrian Army fighters this month over control of Aleppo's Kurdish districts. Rebels see the PYD working with Assad.

"It's a sign of what will happen in the future," said PYD activist Mohammed Said.

Already Free Syrian Army rebels are claiming control of oil assets elsewhere. The Jaafar bin Tayyar Division, a Syrian Arab rebel unit in Deir al-Zor, said its fighters had taken control of the al-Ward oil field near the Iraqi border on Sunday.

But so far there is little evidence of PYD controlling any oil production infrastructure. Many oil production pumps scattered across the hillsides around Derik stand idle and lines of cars waited in the town for gasoline deliveries to arrive from the Assad government.

Before the crisis erupted Syria was an oil exporter to Europe. But its strategic position as a transit route from neighbouring Iraq, Iran and Turkey outweighs its modest production of 400,000 barrels per day before the turmoil.

Gulfsands operated a production-sharing contract with China's Sinochem on Block 26 spread throughout the middle of the Kurd region, with oil output running at 24,000 bpd before sanctions hit.

But Syrian Kurds only have to look across their border into neighbouring Iraqi Kurdistan for an insight into how oil mixes with sectarian and ethnic conflict in the region.

Ten years after the invasion to oust Saddam Hussein, petroleum is still the centre of a simmering dispute between Baghdad's central government and Iraqi Kurdistan.

At the heart of the feud is the city of Kirkuk, which sits atop some of the world's largest oil reserves and is claimed by both the Kurds and the Arab-led central government.

"This area will be just like Kirkuk," said one Syrian activist in Derik pointing to the oil derricks just outside the city. "Everyone will come to fight for this." (Additional reporting by Isabel Coles in Arbil; Editing by Jon Hemming and Greg Mahlich)


Let time come. If Iraq as a state can't take Kirkuk from us, then what makes an armed group think it can occupy Derik, that's a no go zone for them L-) They should concentrate on their deserts south of Kurdistan instead 8)
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Lepzerin » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:38 pm

Oil is an interesting factor in Syria. Not many people think of Syria as a major oil exporter and indeed it isn't, but the oil in Syria is significant enough to make up roughly a quarter of its government's revenue. And of course, like the case of Derik, most of this oil is in the east, and this on top of the pipeline routes that connected Iraqi fields to Mediterranean exports (though I'm not sure how much these'll matter as Turkey is trying to do the same in Iraq now). Kurdish people have a very powerful ace in the hole there, at least that the different groups in Syria will take Kurds seriously given that we have uncontested control of those areas. I'm not too well informed on the Syrian situation though, at least current developments, to see what the potential is.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:56 am

BBC NEWS

Syrian president Bashar-al Assad has told Russian television that his country is an important buffer between the west and more extreme Islamic nations.

Mr Assad, whose country is in the midst of a violent civil war, told Russia Today that he was a Syrian who would not flee the country.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Bahoz » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:34 pm

Derbesiya is now under control of YPG.. regime forces left their locations and the city is under kurdish control. I believe this has been done to not give the justification to FSA to enter the city like they did in Seri Kaniya...
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Bahoz » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:39 pm

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if you look at below map you will know why Seri Kaniya, Derbesiya, Qamishlo..ect are not under Kurds yet. the regime brought alot of arabs from south and middle and placed them there and create arab belt. so Kurds want to avoid any kind of conflict with these arabs so that the regime doesn't use that as excuse and against kurds. you know that this will be used in media in all arabic countries against kurds and even FSA will work against kurds ..so Kurds stepping forward slowly rather than doing it all in once! ..
http://www.jawadmella.net/id13.html
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Bahoz » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:41 pm

again now Tel Temir city is under Kurdish control..the regime forces were thrown out of the city and the city is completely under kurds control now ..look at the map and you will know where is Tel Temer.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Bahoz » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:45 pm

GO Kurds Go...forward please we need Qamishlo under our control also...Today Derbesiya and Tel Temer under Kurds control.. regime forces are thrown out of the kurdish cities ... more to come .. her beji Kurd u Kurdistan
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Bahoz » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:47 pm

you can watch Ronahi TV channel here to see last news from West
http://www.ronahitv.com/channel/view/zind-14
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:56 pm

Bahoz wrote:Cewlik,

if you look at below map you will know why Seri Kaniya, Derbesiya, Qamishlo..ect are not under Kurds yet. the regime brought alot of arabs from south and middle and placed them there and create arab belt. so Kurds want to avoid any kind of conflict with these arabs so that the regime doesn't use that as excuse and against kurds. you know that this will be used in media in all arabic countries against kurds and even FSA will work against kurds ..so Kurds stepping forward slowly rather than doing it all in once! ..
http://www.jawadmella.net/id13.html


Thank you for this because it is something that many people did not know about The map in brilliant :ymdevil:
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Hurro-Urartian » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:18 pm

"Tel tamer" liberated! http://ku.firatnews.com/index.php?rupel=nuce&nuceID=38650
The strategic town of Tel tamer is located among Hassakah , Serekaniye and Dirbasiye.

A viedo from about three weeks ago, showing clashes in Tel Tamer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trZ3FHmRYNA
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: purearch72 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:23 pm

The regime is done.

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Hurro-Urartian » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:12 pm

Same happened in Amouda. The remnants of the regime this afternoon left Amouda, heading towards Qamislo. YPG controls the city.
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