Kurdistan's Turkomen Shield

[kassem]

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[cheryl]

This is Debka's map? It is incorrect. Xanaqîn is located in the wrong place. It is about 125 km south of Silêmanî, on the Iran border.

Harir Airport? I didn't know the Harir area had an airport. I wonder if they mean Hewlêr Airport?

[Evin]

diri we can't make up a kurdistan with only kurds, where everybody HAS to be a kurd... doesn't this concept of nation reminds you of something very unhealthy...? ( turkey?... )

Absolutely Kassem, lead by example, show the racist ignorants how it's done, good on ya

I live in the UK and for sure we have problems (who doesn't!), but for the most part we have a wonderful multi-cultural society and I wouldn't want it any other way.

Well spotted Cheryl, would Hewlêr airport be located in Irbil then according to this map, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhh!!!!

[kassem]

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[Diri]

kassem wrote:
diri we can't make up a kurdistan with only kurds, where everybody HAS to be a kurd... doesn't this concept of nation reminds you of something very unhealthy...? ( turkey?... )


Absolutely Kassem, lead by example, show the racist ignorants how it's done, good on ya

WHO are you calling rascist ignorants???

For one -I didn't say Kurdistan should be made up of Kurds alone... I merely said that to have a autonomous region for the Turkmen would be wrong (INSIDE KURDISTAN)... and that the Arabs who have been settled on Kurdish land - in KURDISH houses MUST be sent back! It is only fair... Kassem - why do you even bother to tvart what I am saying???

[kassem]

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[Evin]

WHO are you calling rascist ignorants???

By racist ignorants I was referring to those in countries like Turkey and Iraq who insist that all Kurds are Turks or Arabs and refuse to recognise or acknowledge the existence of Kurds.

I was supporting Kassem when he referred to a multi-cultural Kurdistan, where no-one is forced to deny their existence, a democratic country where all law abiding citizens are welcome and treated with dignity and respect... that's what I meant by showing the 'racist ignorants' how it's done.

I'm not sure why you would've thought I was be referring to you Diri, but hope that clarifies things?

[Evin]

but if you go to germany or france, it doesn't get more racist ( especially in east germany ) ...there's so many heinous people and when you look at the score of the racist party in antwerp ( where they won the city! ) and in denmark, and in germany it's really disturbing...

I'm not too familiar with German politics to be honest Kassem, France, well, I'm a Brit so the least said the better As for Denmark, I guess people are suffering the fallout of the fundamentalists fruitcakes who have been hitting the headlines recently?

Anyway, in my experience, Kurds aren't at all racist and I'm confident in their abilities to create a wonderful multi-cultural society, they can show their neighbours how it's done.

[kassem]

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[Evin]

nah, denmark has been racist for years... the racist party got elected in government three four years ago I think... UN reported that immigrees asking for refugees status were "systematically treated like sub humans" in danish detention centers.... germany is no good, france either, but still very far from denmark... few people know it and I don't know why. but I talked to some swedish people and they said in sweden everybody knows the danish are racists.

I hear you, but murdering opponents in cold blood and threatening to turn Denmark into another Saudi, really hasn't helped now has it?

Where are you then Kassem, I take it you're in the UK, how do you find it here? It's far from perfect for Kurds I know and life is very difficult, but in comparison, we're not too bad, are we?

[kassem]

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[Diri]

EVIN

Girl I wasn't sure who you meant... Just wanted to clearify that up.. No harm done I hope...

hmmm... Yeah damn - I don't understand why we never were even given the benefit of the doubt - The English didn't even trust us with having a mere piece of the actual kake... So now we don't have shit! Man I really dislike Winston Churchill.. He was a SAD man for denying a WHOLE people their right of selfdetermination... The only ones who even suggested it a good a idea when the Kurds made demands were the French... Darn kolonialism...

Anywho... What gives? Ohh - well Denmark has a looong history of rascism... Norway on the other han has a strong discrminatory party- FRP - Development Party - I would rather call it "Taking a Stedp Back in Time Party"...

It has 30 % of the bulk in Parliament... And then there are the goodguys - SV - Socialist Left - They have ratified a resulution about the Kurds in their party program - they state that : "Kurdish problem is European problem"... and so they want to help the Kurds in getting their rights... this party has ca 20% of the bulk in parliament... they will do better at the next ellections though - due this automn...

[Evin]

I think you've confused denmark with netherlands, I don't remember anyone being murdered in denmark recently....? anyways if a christian extremist murders a guy ( like the anti-abortion bunch in US for example ) nobody is gonna start hating all the christians... why when ONE guy kills somebody, 3 MILLION PEOPLE are responsible? this is just nonsense...

You're talking about the Theo Van Gogh case in Holland, no Kassem, I'm talking about Denmark, weren't some Danish Jews murdered a while back... I'll have a search.

The other issue in Denmark (I believe) is that of non-integration, perhaps someone with more knowledge could confirm?

Kassem, I don't think anyone is saying that ALL Muslims are killers, but when there are those extremists that use their religion to justify the cold-blooded murder of 'infidels', there will be problems, don't you agree?

no I don't live in uk... why did you think that? I've never even been there anyways. I'm in central europe.

Your English is very good, I just presumed... wrongly!

[Evin]

EVIN Girl I wasn't sure who you meant... Just wanted to clearify that up.. No harm done I hope...

No harm done at all Diri