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DO you know who Ibrahim Talises and Mahsum Kirmizigül are?

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PostAuthor: heval » Sat May 21, 2005 9:25 pm

Diri wrote:ZANYAR
You a mixing the STUPID Kurds of the North with the educated Kurds of East and South---



Diri, do not call our brothers and sisters, "stupid". Kurds should not call Kurds stupid. And the lack of education in the North is highly due to the harsh political situation in Turkey. Calling them "stupid" shows a bit of arrogance on your part. Many times in this forum, you say things very bluntly and then you reply and tell us "no offense". Please learn to have some respect. Respect is part of our Kurdish culture. And I am from Southeastern Kurdistan, but I know Northern Kurds who I will always treat like my own blood because they are my people.


About Ibrahim Tatlises, I heard from a friend who lives in Northern Kurdistan that Kurds threw tomatoes at him at the recent Newroz in Amed (Diyarbekir). This could be one of the reasons he decided to admit he is Kurdish because he was losing popularity among his own people. I don't know if that is true...just a guess.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 2:37 am

Hey - THAT WAS IRONY - If you don't have any - please refrain from answering the comment... I am sure SOMEBODY understood that it was ironic.. I mean as see in context with our silly fight over Kurds from North and South... And east and West... I mean - whats up? We don't need to fight amongst ourselves... that is what the enemy wants us to - they splitt us and then come to make us their subjects... but we must be better - WE ARE THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF SÎABEND Û XECÊ AND MEM Û ZÎN... WE WERE BORN WITH HLOVE FOR EACHOTHER... :D
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 2:53 am

Hey - this is funny - at first I just skipped all the way to the 3th page and read what HEVAL had written... and I was so provoced that I answered him right away- without reading what Kassem and Zanyar had said -so then I jumped a page... looking at page 2 AFTER I wrote the comment I am thinking - "hay - Kassem and Zanyar are SO cute!" - hahaha - I't just that your commenst are hillarious! I am sure you will understand that I wrote that BECAUSE it is what the turks say - the Turkish government... just reqad my post ONE more time and I am sure you'll see that you just reacted in haste and didn't really reflect on what I was saying... this is what I said:

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You a mixing the STUPID Kurds of the North with the educated Kurds of East and South--- Yeah - They are stupid because most of them are not educated... So they follow the idiot (In the meaning that he doesn't know politics) all around... There is like I said a much stronger tribal system in North - and this is becuase they are not educated... BUT THERE IS A SMART TRIBAL SYSTEM IN EAST AND SOUTH... Tribal doesn't mean stupid...


That is what the turkish state is telling Kurds


So I am saying what Kassem is saying just a bit later : ( Only I support the tribal system.. he appereantly doesn't! ;))



the tribal system makes that people in some villages have no education, and don't know anything... it is the PLAGUE of north kurdistan and that's why the turkish government is ACTIVELY supporting it.


But I must say that now I am disapointed with you two... you actuall y mean to call the kurds of the east and south "stupid" Kassem??? hhmmm... that is very regretable...

I sincerly LOVE ALL Kurds... truly I DO! :D I would kiss every Kurd in the world - given the chance... I mean - Kurds are so adorable in their behaviour and the way they just give warm vibes -


I AM ULTRA NATIONALIST - ALL FOR KURDISTAN AND KURDISTAN FOR KURDS!
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 7:25 am

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 2:27 pm

I'm sure there's many stupid kurds in the south and the east.


So.. you were saying Kassem??? ;)
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 6:15 pm

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 6:30 pm

Hahah - my brother - please... I am just joking with you... you see I am a much more "fun" person than most here have the impression of.. YES I do passionetly and bluntly and sometimes ruedly say things... but it's just that SOMETINGS must be said in a certain way for them to fulfill their meaning...

And in many occasions I choose to say things to provoce... I like that - I wanna make people think... And I wanna challenge your thinking...

But be sure of ONE thing brother - I am only acting for the est of Kurdistan - as are all of us! :D So please forgive me if you ever feel I cross a line... I do it in the best of intentions... Just like anyone of you ;) And I don't really mind you doing so - Nothing is as healthy as a GOOD DISCUSSION...
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 6:32 pm

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PostAuthor: pesh17 » Sun May 22, 2005 7:36 pm

"Pesh" heval, also stands for peshkeftin, not just peshmerga. But i still dont get were you come from about, "dont compare stupid kurds of the north, to the south and east" I hardly consider the kurds of the south, and especially the east as "educated". Your level of education and point of view, must be that of ethiopians, my good friend. I have family from the north and south, and well lets say the north, are much more educated, in their thought, and education. Those 5 million kurds in Istanbol, Izmir, Ankara, Adana and Bursa, are far more educated than all our people in south and east combined my friend. Even in north kurdistan, their organization and level of politics is far more surpassed than KDP and PUk. Dehap - Hak-Par, Mazlum-Der. THe fact that they can go from one banned party to the next, (HEP, DEP, HADEP, DEHAP) with such ease, with that level of intensity, shows a lot. And however said that quote about Nesring Bawari, man, you hit the spot. There are much more sophisticated when it comes to working within domestic politics than kdp or puk. You were trying to turn your own people against each other, just because you could not control your anger. Kdp and Puk, can't unite 5 million kurds in the south, and cant negotiate with marsh arabs. Those people my friends, just because have elementary schooling, are far from educated. I am not mad, but your comment was completely unacceptable, and i am still wait for an apology from you for this forum (even if we did misunderstand it)

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 10:28 pm

Man you are ONE FAT ARROGANT PERSON!

This will be my last comment to ANY of your posts... I am to say lightly - insulted by your motion of snobbishness and inability to comprehend a slight misunderstanding on your own behalf!

If you wish for an apology - here it is - I am SO SORRY THAT YOU ARE SUCH A PETTY PERSON... Oh - and I am very sorry that you feel you need to go to these extents just to satisfy your great and in-extinguishable EGO!


Yours sincerly - NOT!
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 10:30 pm

Oh - and by the way the "pesh" thing - THAT WAS ONLY A QUESTION DUDE - GETTING ALL PARANOID WONT GET YOU ANYWHERE...
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PostAuthor: pesh17 » Mon May 23, 2005 3:43 am

EGO????

You still need to grow up a little my friend, an 18 your old kid such as I, can see your angry little comments, just because a couple of kurds cant speak kurdish. Get over that fact. You turn every little thing about politics, and north vs. south vs. east. No paranoia here, just facts. I can deal with reality, you cant
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