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who likes ja'ffari ??

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do u like ja'ffari?

Poll ended at Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:06 am

yes, im in love with him he is a great leder
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no, but he is better than saddam
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both are the samme, they can both go to hell
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Total votes : 12

PostAuthor: Mosul » Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:41 am

you know what you are medyah, A fanatic, you talk so much shit on this forum but you dont have anything to back it up. Anybody can make up news "Medyah". You are very disrespectful to kurds when you insult shia islam, i dont care about you, but the majority of kurds in Iran are SHYIA TWELEVERS, the same sect as the ones in Iraq, And in iraq we also have people called Feyli kurds which are also Twelver Shias, you insult oppressed people, you make me sick. You claim that you are in iran, who do you thinks your fooling? You result to the same outdated insults everytime, when someone disagrees with you narrow point of view.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:48 am

1- most of kurds in iran are sunny , there are some shia kurds in south west of iran

2- I gave you the book Mr. Mosul ! how do you say I dont have source ?why you dont go and read it before you open your mouth ? why you dont try to resepct me as you respect your dear khomeyni and jaffari and sisstani ?
i giveing you the srouce you keep on swearing at me.

3- i dont need your admire ,keep on loving ayatollha khomeyni and swearng at me . while i give you his book to read you keep on opening your diry mouth
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:51 am

i dont insult opressed peope, I hate those who love our enemies, i hate those who sell our homeland for their supid relligion . shias in Iran are more kurd than shia .they dont sell their kurds to the khomeyni because khomeyni was shia ...well some of them did ,but they were exception as you are an exception .

you are the one who says things without source, who can find a source that says the majority of iranian kurds are shia ? thats lie .

I hate those who love our enemies, i hate those who sell our homeland for their supid relligion ,
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PostAuthor: ZaniYar » Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:19 am

Mousl I hope u see this picture!!
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Do u have any idea when this mass killing took place?... So let me tell u, It started when ayatolla Khomani declared Jihad against the kurds and brutally started mass murdering our beloved ones. Just during 1988 Mullahs excuted 60,000 kurdish political prisnors. To be sure about this go check Emensty International and Galindopol reports.

I don't know where did u get that idea from that most of the kurds in Iran are shiaa. I'm very sure that ur wrong again, even if we ve small percentage kurdish Shiaa in iran, but they see themselves as kurds first rather than Shiaa.

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PostAuthor: kardox » Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:00 am

Mosul wrote:really did the ayotallah said that? please show me a source, or any evidence saying that he did. This is the stuff you olny hear on stupid forums like this.




Musel, it seems to me that you don’t have any knowledge of Kurdish history, language and situation.
It is very clear to me after having read your comments on the issues that you have commented. Everyone knows that the Islamic republic of Iran with its Shia and Sharia laws is the enemy of Kurds. Who do you think killed doctor Qasimlo? What about Mykinos killings in Berlin, who stands behind it, do you really have any doubt abut any of this these? Let me know what you think about my comments.

p.s you can have a look on this link: http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/li ... 416-mr.htm

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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:44 pm

So sorry that our fellow Kurd from Mosul /Ninweh is so un-educated in the history of Kurds... To say it in ONE sentence - Kurds have a bad history with religion... And just to make clear my line I want to say: Kurds have always been secular and broadminded - but the Arab scum from the south came and forced Islam on us - and half our heritage was lost with our conversion... But yes - I am muslim... I accept the LORD and our prophet Mohammed (sww) and I even pray five times a day... but I don't believe that religion is a part of my fight for Kurds and Kurdistan... We strive for something much better - we strive for our sonms and daghters... we strive for unity of a people who for too long has been denied peace and celebration of their culture...
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PostAuthor: Mosul » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:07 am

That is such bullshit Diri and you kever forced on us, as it was never forced on anyone. There is in compultion in relgion diri remember that. Kurds converted to islam in the 7th century by there own will. I dont know who spread this rumor, and i dont know why you speak of your religion like that. Islam plays a huge part in kurdish culture, and you will have to accept that.

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:31 am

Diri accepts it, if you could understand what he is saying.
Islam is forced on the Kurds, a lot of people died because of it.
But if you want to believe in fairytales go ahead.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:41 am

Kurds were zoroasterian , the first relligion that introdused the concept of "Modern god" to the world .

in a zoroasterian paper that been found it says
The temples were ruined down and the fires were killed
The greatest man of the men hided himself.
The oppressor Arab destroyed every village until "Shara Zoor"(a village in southern kurdistan)
They slaved Girls and women
Azad Mardan* slept in their own blood
the Zoroasterian religion was left alone
Ahura Mazda* will not forgive anybody.(Arabs and those who left Zoroasterian religion alone)

(*Azad Mardan means "Men of Freedom"- it was the the name of the most important army of the Iran Empire , Azad Mards were all Mede
*Ahura Mazda means God)


we kurds had a great civilization , Arabs fired EVERY EVERY book in kurdistan and made everybody to be muslem.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:43 am

mosul you still insist on loving kurds enemy, and you called everybody in this forum stupid,,,, did you applogize? or not ?


+ if you want the source of that Paper , I myself saw that paper , and took some photos of Hewraman .

arabs kiled everybody and slaved our girls ....thats a Truth.
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PostAuthor: kardox » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:00 am

Mosul wrote:That is such bullshit Diri and you kever forced on us, as it was never forced on anyone. There is in compultion in relgion diri remember that. Kurds converted to islam in the 7th century by there own will. I dont know who spread this rumor, and i dont know why you speak of your religion like that. Islam plays a huge part in kurdish culture, and you will have to accept that.



well they didnt not convert by free will, they were forced. have u ever hered about piri shalyar?
this are some of his comments on the invading arab forces :

wrwewa waro warwa waren
kargi siwa, hela charmen
hela ja kargan, karga ja helan
rawas ja rawas, warg ja wargan

as we see it is in hawrami and the mening is :

bafrek abaret bafr atwenitawa
mreshk rasha, helka spiya
helka la mreshkaw, mreshkesh la helka
rewi la rewi, gorgesh la gorga


we will never become arabs, her bejit kurd her bejit kurdistan u her bejit piri shalyar
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:00 pm

Welatêmîr wrote:
Diri accepts it, if you could understand what he is saying.


I second that! And by the way - can ANY of you help me dicipher these hieroglyphs??? Mosul sent this to me... I only understood some of it -
"Boy aren't you ashamed..."
"Medya is mad..."
"...Your brain is empty Diri... ( It's written "Viri" :P )"

But I realy need help to understand what it says here:

Mosul sent me a Pm:
Koro tu sharam na ki, tu Qabarah bijah Islami? Medya Deena hem viri deenin heka daki un babi tah sanin tu chi biji di gee dena devi tah da zani? Akilah Ta Peech bo Viri, chava Xuo Vekah.


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PostAuthor: kardox » Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:51 pm

musel says: Koro tu sharam na ki, tu Qabarah bijah Islami? Medya Deena hem viri deenin heka daki un babi tah sanin tu chi biji di gee dena devi tah da zani? Akilah Ta Peech bo Viri, chava Xuo Vekah.



i think he is telling you the following :

boy arent u ashamed, you insulting islam ?? medya is crazy and viri is crazy too?? (maybe?? :shock: ) you parentse are dogs , what the hell are you talking about, (we) will put shit in ur mouth do you get it ?? u moral is corrupt did u knew that, open ur eyes..

damn it was not easy .. hehe


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PostAuthor: ZaniYar » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:24 pm

Its true and no one can denyed that we were forced to convert to Islam and fortunately there are many Kurds who resisted like Kakay and Yazidis. Anywas, Arabs invaded Kurdistan and they were led Omari Ibni Khatab. Many kurds resisted and killed lots of them and they left their bloody corpses in Kurdistan ... Aba Eubday ibni Jarah...ect. Now they called Ababayli Jarah near Halabja. However the resistance couldn't stop them, then they started killing all the men and raping our women that is why our appearances now resembles to Arabs. That was the fist Anfal we had and Saddam repeated again.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:35 pm

musel says: Koro tu sharam na ki, tu Qabarah bijah Islami? Medya Deena hem viri deenin heka daki un babi tah sanin tu chi biji di gee dena devi tah da zani? Akilah Ta Peech bo Viri, chava Xuo Vekah.



i think he is telling you the following :

boy arent u ashamed, you insulting islam ?? medya is crazy and viri is crazy too?? (maybe?? ) you parentse are dogs , what the hell are you talking about, (we) will put shit in ur mouth do you get it ?? u moral is corrupt did u knew that, open ur eyes..

damn it was not easy .. hehe


This is so low of Mosul - He/she is sinking to the low level of Saddam with these ugly and rude words... MAY GOD HELP YOU MOSUL - YOU ARE NOT A GOOD MOSLEM...

Kardox: Thanks for translating that for me... I had real difficulties understanding his/her dialect... Anyway - i am kind of sorry that you translated the words... I don't see them as worth your hard work ;)

But back on track - Yes I agree with you Zanyar - that IS why Kurds are darker in Southern and Central Kurdistan... I Northern Kurdistan we have mixed with Armenians and Turks in South with Arabs and in East with Persians and Turkmen... So we come in many shapes and colors :D

But the originall Kurds were according to legend Blue eyed and blonde... I am not sure if I trust thios legend... But I DO have a dozen cousins that are blond and have blue eyes... And their parents are only in some cases the same... So it makes you wonder...

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