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What type of Kurdistan???

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I want Kurdistan to be:

Poll ended at Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:09 pm

One FEDERAL state in Iraq, one in Turkey, one in Syria and one in Iran!
3
19%
One COUNTRY covering all areas where Kurds live today
6
38%
The Independent state that is drawn in the Treaty of Sèvres
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I want Kurdistan to be ALL areas that were ORIGinally KURDISH!
6
38%
I don't want there to be anything called Kurdistan!!!
1
6%
 
Total votes : 16

PostAuthor: heval » Sat May 21, 2005 9:42 am

Emmunah wrote:Oh YEAH! I got it! I don't understand why they are doing it, and I'm trying to get them to stop supporting Turkey over the Kurds, but they haven't yet succumbed to my charms LOL! I keep writing, I keep arguing with them, and I keep trying to gather together all the support I can. I keep telling every Kurd I can that they MUST lead, take action, speak against terrorists and fundamentalism to dissassociate themselves from them, but all I can figure out is that the US wants to make Turkey as happy as possible, and make Kurds as happy as possible and I guess they want to see what the Kurds do with Southern Kurdistan. Turkey has a good lobby, and the Kurds need to join forces with other lobbies in the west in order to get a faster jump up on the Turks. It's not that I don't recognize this double standard, it's that I can only find a step-by-step approach to an optimal solution, even if it is never a perfect solution.

BTW: Heval Your English writing skills are really great. Do you teach English? You should. I could learn a lot from your grammar and writing skills.


Thank you but no I'm not. I never really thought about that much.

I agree. The Kurdish lobby does need to be strengthened and alliances would be a great way to do that. I live in the US where the only way a Kurdish lobby will really get attention is through the support of others since our numbers are so low. However, I'm a bit curious as to how strong the Kurdish lobby is in Europe. I have never really looked into that myself, but they do have large populations in Germany and Sweden and I would think they could accomplish a lot.
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sat May 21, 2005 10:04 am

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sat May 21, 2005 11:36 am

What do you want then Kassem?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat May 21, 2005 12:34 pm

Vladimir said:
What do you want then Kassem?


Yes - what do you want? Except talking in sidelines and doubble standards???

You say this:
on the other hand you don't like pkk, who's reversed the process of assimilation, fought the turk for 20 years, brung the kurdish problem on the international map and forced EU to ask for reforms from turkey. you don't like our fighters that put their lives on the line every day, despite all, and who give several years of their lives to our cause.


And THEN you say this:

germany is too busy selling tanks to turkey. besides, nobody will listen to a kurdish lobby in europe because they really don't care about muslims. they already have troubles accepting them in their countries, they're not gonna help us in the middle east.

besides, no matter how strong the kurdish lobby gets the turkish lobby will always be stronger... they have a whole STATE behind them, contrarily to us.


sounds like contradiction to me...


I mean - first you are claming ALL honour for the internationalization of the Kurdish issiue for the PKK - and then you are saying that the west doesn't hear our plight???? Umm... get the point?

And so I just wanna add that - PKK did in fact not lobby for the Kurds... The KURDS DID IT THEMSELVES... PKK WAS TOO BUISSY KIDNAPPING NEW "RECRUITS"...

No - I am NOT against the fight that the PKK is doing... I give the PKK that much credit... BUT I AM AGAINST THEIR IDEOLOGY for supporting the turkish "territorrial integrety"... as your dear APO is saying now.. that man changes his mind like I do in the morning when I am deciding what to eat for breakfest... He couldn't lead a people to the sea even if he was standing on Cyprys...
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sat May 21, 2005 12:51 pm

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 3:04 pm

bla bla bla, what's your point.



My point is that the man is as dumb as a donkey... But that is not important... Ha has NO power anymore so... Hahaha


hmmm... se now YOU TALKING - playing the nationalist flute whenever it suits you...
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 6:06 pm

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 6:25 pm

Hehehe - I love music... Wanna make a band together??? We can be "Kurdish duo"... Hahaha The ultimate boyband... We would knock out the boyband masters Westlife and Backstreet boys... :D
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 6:30 pm

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 6:32 pm

SURE! :P

I know a girl... do you??? The one I know is from South Kurdistan - If you know a girl from West Kurdistan then we can represent the WHOLE of Kurdistan! ;)
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 6:32 pm

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 6:34 pm

hmmmm.... WE MUST HAVE A GIRL FROM THE WEST! OH NO! WHAT DO WE DO NOW!!!!??? :shock:
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 6:38 pm

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun May 22, 2005 10:17 pm

DUDE! Girls don't hang out at such places - If they do they are viewed upon as "easy" - but that is not MY opinion... How about we just put an add in the "Islamic Daily"... and stress that they must be KURDISH GIRLS...???
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PostAuthor: kassem » Sun May 22, 2005 10:32 pm

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