Partîya Çareserîya Demokratîk a Kurdistan (PÇDK)

[heval]

I am surprised no one has made a topic on this yet...

Is anyone familiar with the Kurdistan Democratic Solution Party (Partîya Çareserîya Demokratîk a Kurdistan (PÇDK))? They are campaigning in the upcoming Iraqi elections. I read in one ad, their motto is "End to Corruption in Kurdistan."

Here is their website, http://www.pcdk.com/. If anyone has more information about them or about Dr. Fayq Gulpi, please share...

ps. has anyone noticed their flag resembles the KONGRA-GEL and PJAK flag?

[dyaoko]

as I heared they are the former PKK members/famiilles that seeked refugee in South Kurdistan and got citizenship.

well , you may at first think they are pupet of apo in south kurdistan ..

but by my idea , whatever they are , they give Diversity to politc in kurdistan .

they have the third voice in kurdistan parliament , which is good by my idea.
kurdistan parliament was going to be a Classic Tribial place , where each familly goes and votes for his own family. [PUK famillies to PUK , and KDP to KDP]

PCDK, has many intelectuals, i remember they wrote articles on Iraqi constituion, however, they always complain that KDP and PUK never let them in Government .

I also remember them in mahabad riots , i remember many rojhelati kurds called roj tv and complained why southern brohters are quiet ?

and then Fayq Gulpi , called the program and promised eastern kurds to make a big protest in south kurdistan against what Iran did .
and they did it , they were the only party who showed their sympathy officialy with eastern kurds and made protest .

[you can find the pictures of their almost large protest in Former KBU NEWS section]

so I am optimisitc about their party but not too much , i just wish another party be made in s.kurdistan that be completely independence , no apo no anything else but Kurd and kurdistan.

[dyaoko]

another thing , PCDK officialy sees himself as a member of KKK [Koma KOmalen Kurdistan]

dont ask me what is KKK , i just have an imaginary concept of them , it is like union , the idea of KKK was by apo.

[heval]

another thing , PCDK officialy sees himself as a member of KKK [Koma KOmalen Kurdistan]

dont ask me what is KKK , i just have an imaginary concept of them , it is like union , the idea of KKK was by apo.

Yes. You just made me realize that the PCDK flag (or what's used on their site) is identical to the Koma Komalen Kurdistan flag. So I am guessing, if it is a union then it is a union between the parties, PKK/KONGRA-GEL, PJAK and PCDK? So, with the existence of this union...does this mean PKK has successfully built its presence in all parts of Kurdistan? And how come PCDK is so successful in their campaigns and protests? Are their offices in the Hewlêr and Silêmanî areas or did they open one in Kerkûk?

I wonder how they were able to get Iraqi citizenship...

(ps. the union ought to change it's name... the kkk acronym doesn't go too well in the west)

[dyaoko]

1- about the union system, I am not sure , I am curious to know about it too

2- about the name KKK , you are right, KKK was a racist group in america that killed Black ppl just because they were black.
he he may be KKK should change its name not Koma Komalen Kurdistan

[Vladimir]

IF it's KKK, then it's a sattelite party of PKK.. no doubt! Their flag looks like Kongra-Gel flag. Kongra-Gel is PKK.. no doubts about it.

[Piling]

So if they depend really of the PKK I doubt that they will workfor Southern Kurdistanî. Probably more for the PKK's interests.

In 1994, during the civil war in Kurdistan, there happened the same phenomenon ; ppl were so disgusted with KDP/PUK that a part of the population thought that perhaps the PKK could a good solution in Southern Kurdistan. But after some PKK troops had made bad exactions (racket, murdering) against civilians in Kurdish mountains, they had lost their influence.

But in general, when Kurds are unhappy with both Dinosaurus parties, it makes a short success of Islamists or PKK. But not too long, for soonly they realize that both are not fair solutions...

[dyaoko]

But in general, when Kurds are unhappy with both Dinosaurus parties, it makes a short success of Islamists or PKK. But not too long, for soonly they realize that both are not fair solutions..

ha ha , I wonder why kurds dont think about making a new party by themself, are they too lazy or too Low IQ ?

or may be PUK and KDP dont let ppl to make a new party ?
why ppl dont make a new independence party just for kurdistan ?

all the parties in south kurdistan are made by others, PUK and KDP by Iran and USA .
islamists are REALLY pupets of iran .
PDCK is pupet of PKK .

why there is no party that been made by southern kurdish ppl themself a party that dont be have to care about iran or america or turkey ...and just care about kurdistan ?

[Piling]

In Southern Kurdistan, KDP/PUK are powerful because of tribal system. Some tribes support one of these a party only for having advantages,not because they are interested on policy. And PDK or PUK have all the keys of jobs, money, administration, etc., I suppose it is difficult, if you found a new party, to have a lot of members, for many ppl, even if they are not agree with them, depend of the 2 main parties.

[pepula]

the guy in charge of PCDK was a peshamrga for PUK back in the day. and he left PUK to form PCDK which i think was a great move. they arent as closely related to the PKK as many assume

[Vladimir]

Why their logo is the same as Kongra-Gel then?

[Vladimir]

Fighting broke out early on Saturday after about 10 members of the Kurdistan Democratic Solution Party (PCDK) entered territory controlled by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), said Adnan Mufti, the PUK deputy prime minister in the enclave's regional government.

The PCDK is a recent offshoot of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), a rebel group that waged a 17-year-long campaign for an ethnic homeland in southeastern Turkey. More than 30,000 people died in that conflict.

- Kurdistan observer

PKK-Affiliated Parties to Participate in Iraqi Polls
By Suleyman Kurt
Published: Saturday 15, 2005
http://www.zaman.com

- Noting that The PCDK had distributed photos of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan in Kirkuk earlier this year

Search on google PKK PCDK.....

Tjezus..

[Vladimir]

Hmm.. where I do recognise that flag.. and URL..

[Piling]

The PKK has lot of clones

[Diri]

PKK has at least three party branches in South Kurdistan - just as it has party branches in East and West Kurdistan.

And another thing, it is the Islamic Union of Kurdistan - which plays the third wheel in the Kurdistan Parliament... It has the third most seats - 11...