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Federal Iraq's new economy

PostAuthor: hiwa » Mon May 16, 2005 9:50 pm

this is not a joke, is it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... gory=58516

i was sent this by a chinese friend of mine, who is a really good in stuff on ebay

but generally, do you guys believe that "Federal Iraq" will become one of the richest federal countries in the world once againe?

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PostAuthor: heval » Mon May 16, 2005 10:34 pm

hiwa wrote:this is not a joke, is it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... gory=58516

i was sent this by a chinese friend of mine, who is a really good in stuff on ebay

but generally, do you guys believe that "Federal Iraq" will become one of the richest federal countries in the world once againe?


Personally, I think it's still uncertain if Iraq stays in one piece after everything unfolds.

But anyways, if this guy is claiming the money will be worth millions soon, then why is he selling it for so cheap? why not hold onto it himself?
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon May 16, 2005 10:50 pm

You should be more suspicious of his intentions - I agree with HEVAL! :P

By the way - YES! :lol: Iraq most probably splitt into AT LEAST two pieces... INSHALLAH--- We Kurds do not belong in ARAB IRAQ... Where ARAB = :twisted: and Kurd = :(
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PostAuthor: kassem » Tue May 17, 2005 12:13 am

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PostAuthor: Emmunah » Tue May 17, 2005 8:51 pm

Actually, this is true. You can buy Iraqi Dinars on the open market and many people are. I have yet to see if Soros really is buying them, but a lot of rumor has it that he is. In many ways, this was so that people who support and believe in the new federal Iraq could have a way to show their support. What you are doing is like a stock market trade, and you buy the dinar which adds the Euro or the Dollar to the Iraqi economy. The more people buy dinars the stronger the economy will be.

I know that it's not popular for me to say this, but after spending all semester researching the Kurdish economy, I think the intention by the world is to build up Southern Kurdistan, and I think that will draw a bunch of other Kurds with brains and muscle from other areas of Kurdistan. There is enough room you know? :wink: This may not be the Kurdistan everyone wants, but it sure would beat what we've got. I think the Kurds in Northern Kurdistan are going to act as traders between the Southern Kurdish regions and the Turkish regions. They will benefit economically, because the Kurds will trust them, and the Turks will have to go to them to get things done....and if that happens, the Turks get a better economy, the Kurds get a better economy, and even Iraq gets a better economy.

If you go to the "Iraqi Portal" for information about the economy, you will find a lot of really interesting news and updates on investment. When I saw the list of companies buiding things in Southern Kurdistan and Iraq, I realized that there would be no way these companies were making these large investments if they did not believe that the situation was going to be very profitable for everyone, and that the insurgency would be defeated. Shell Oil is investing a ton of money into Kirkuki oil exploration and it looks like Barzani and Talabani cut a deal with the Turkomen Front to unite and keep hold of Kirkuk. It also looks like they cut a deal with Turkey, that they would not go for an independence if Turkey invested there and allowed Kurds control over Kirkuk. In the end, that's almost 50% of Iraq's oil supply, and it has not even been explored with the latest technology so it might be much more. This will provide the region with a lot of wealth, provided they can get the oil refined. Unfortunately, Southern Kurdistan does not have that much refining capacity, nor does it have control of the piplelines and that oil has to go to Basra. The natrual gas lines must also go to Basra, so if Iraq and kurds were separate, and a war ensued, everyone would be poor. This way, is not 100% of what we want, but we get the investment and safety to build an economy, conduct Kurdish business in Kurdish parliament, have Peshmerga and make deals with those countries we can do business with. If this money is put into education, technology, and infrastructure (which it is) then Southern Kurdistan will be an economic powerhouse.

Only two things stand in the way...breaking out of the "do only what you are told" way of thinking (in other words, Kurds have to seize the moment and take the initiative) and the old tribal way of doing business, where the leader is not the person with the best skills, but the person who's father was a sheik ect... Rise up! Shake away your chains! Tell your body and brain you are free! Create, dream, work hard, build it, build it, build it! Never give up! You know...you can show the world exactly what a Kurdistan can be, and it all depends on what you are willing to leave behind and what you are willing to do to make it happen! Build it and the world will admire you, respect you, and you will never have to deal with the Loughborough snobs again. You want to have a Kurdistan...prove it! That's what the world is saying...show them you can do it!
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PostAuthor: kassem » Tue May 17, 2005 11:00 pm

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PostAuthor: abdur » Tue May 17, 2005 11:31 pm

Still there is truth from Emmunah's words, i mean all the people who ride their TIR to buy oil from Iraq and sell it in Turkey are kurdish drivers. Kurds are known for being good tradesmen, and if southern Kurdistan becomes like Kuwait the northern kurds will benifit in many ways. Right now they are letting many Iraqi arabs come to work in Sulaymania and other places but one day even the arabs wouldnt want to travel that far for those *considered low* jobs and then the Kurdish federation will need foreigners to do it. The nearest foreigners are kurds from over the borders.
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PostAuthor: kassem » Tue May 17, 2005 11:42 pm

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PostAuthor: Emmunah » Wed May 18, 2005 3:00 am

Kassem, Kassem....listen to the Indians tell you about the multi-nationals. Yes, there are poor and illiterate Indians, but as more people enter the middle class, buy cars, computers, televisions ect...they are helping the others who are more poor to get education and get work. Listen to the Chinese who are doing outsourced work for the Japanese, their traditional enemies who have NEVER appologized for what they did to the Han during the war. Their economy is growing at 9% a year right now, and this is letting them expand more businesses, educate more people, so that they no longer do the work for American companies, now they are competing with American companies. Now, some former employees of a big company decided they wanted to do good things for the world instead of making money themselves (I love these kind of people) so they went to Cambodia and they got money from their former corporation, so that they could open a transcribing service. The Cambodian women they hired, did not speak english at all, they just taught them how to type english and copy words correctly. All of Harvard Universities back issues of their university newspaper were on paper and needed to be typed into a computer so that they could be online for searches. Harvard had never been able to afford to do it. Then these guys got the contract for their Cambodia project. The Cambodian women did it, and the money they earned was good enough for them to complete college....two of them went out and opened up their own business doing something similar.

You will not be doing this alone you know, I think there are 43 different countries investing in the federated Iraq, and a good portion of that is in Southern Kurdistan because of the safety. Many large organizations with a lot of money, are investing in computer training for Kurds, giving grants for new businesses, teaching English and computer input. The investments into Iraq include four new bridges, and one of them is near Halabja. There are two new airports, and the Turkish engineers are actually teaching the Kurdish engineers about new techniques in tunnels.

Kurdistan has all the water, most of the oil, most of the grain, most of the vegetable and fruit production, most of the tobacco crop and most of the tourism. The tourism industry alone is immense! I want to come open a ski resort someday. I want to see people from all over the hot desert ares come to Kurdistan to ski, white water raft, ride horses, and get away from the heat in the beautiful mountains. Did you know that last summer all of the rooms available in the resorts were booked solid? Many were booked a month in advance. Did you know that the US is most certainly going to keep a base there? Do you know how many oil executives and big company executives are going to be visiting there?

I know what you mean about village life, and traditional ways. It is why I keep saying over and over again, that it is up to the Kurds if they want a Kurdistan, because they will have to build it and work for it...with help...I have faith that they will. I have seen how good Kurds can cooperate when they want to :lol: It's impressive to see! The only thing between Kurds and failure is their lack of confidence in themselves, and if we can overcome that, there is nothing holding Kurdistan back...not Turkey, not Arabs or anyone. Success is something you make happen, it's not something that lands in your lap, but I do not think I've ever seen so much effort being put into a country as this since the Germans took back East Berlin. I will do whatever I can to make it a success....I hope we all can do that.
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