Navigator
Facebook
Search
Ads & Recent Photos
Recent Images
Random images
Welcome To Roj Bash Kurdistan 

iran, prison of nations/ethnicities, ready to collapse

A place to talk about domestic politics in Middle East (Iran, Iraq , Turkey, Syria) Also includes topics about Assyrian, Armenian, Chaldean .

iran, prison of nations/ethnicities, ready to collapse

PostAuthor: alp » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:14 pm

if US "pushes the buttons", so-called iran, the artificial entity, is ready to collapse and break-apart economically-politically-ethnically.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6499605.stm

27 March 2007

US Navy starts war games in Gulf


------------------------------------------------------------------------------


ethnic make-up of so-called iran (very rough estimates) :

% 35 persians (isfahani, fars, yezdi, kirmani, hemedani, tehrani, meshhedi, ..)
% 35 turks (azerbaijani, tehrani, khorasani, hemedani, gashgai,..)
% 4 turkmens (turkmensahra)
%8 caspians (gilani, mazenderani, ..)
%8 kurds (kirmanji, sorani)
%8 leks/lurs (kirmanshahi, kelhuri, luristan, bakhtiyari, memesani, kuhgiluye, buyirahmad, ..)
%4 arabs
%3 beluch


--------------------------

emerging nations :

* turks of iran and turks of north azerbaijan
* shii arabs of iran and shii arabs of iraq
* kurds of iran and kurds of turkey, syria, iraq
* beluch of iran and beluch of afghanistan and pakistan
* turkmens of iran and turkmens of turkmenistan and afghanistan

alp
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:26 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

iran, prison of nations/ethnicities, ready to collapse

Sponsor

Sponsor
 

PostAuthor: alp » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:04 pm

******************** flash : unexpectedly US has radically altered her mideast strategy *****



---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


WASHINGTON, DC—Almost a year after the cessation of major combat and a month after the nation's first free democratic elections, President Bush unveiled the coalition forces' strategy for exiting Iraq.

"I'm pleased to announce that the Department of Defense and I have formulated a plan for a speedy withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq," Bush announced Monday morning. "We'll just go through Iran."

Bush said the U.S. Army, which deposed Iran's longtime enemy Saddam Hussein, should be welcomed with open arms by the Islamic-fundamentalist state.

"And Iran's so nearby," Bush said. "It's only a hop, skip, and a jump to the east."

According to White House officials, coalition air units will leave forward air bases in Iraq and transport munitions to undisclosed locations in Iran. After 72 to 96 hours of aerial-bomb retreats, armored-cavalry units will retreat across the Zagros mountains in tanks, armored personnel carriers, and strike helicopters. The balance of the 120,000 troops will exit into the oil-rich borderlands around the Shatt-al-Arab region within 30 days.

Pentagon sources said U.S. Central Command has been formulating the exit plan under guidelines set by Bush.
"The fact is, we've accomplished our goals in Iraq," said General George Casey, the commander of coalition forces in the Iraqi theater. "Now, it's time to bring our men and women home—via Iran."

Questions have been raised about the unprecedented size of the withdrawal budget.

"I'm asking Congress to approve a $187-billion budget to enable us to exit as smoothly as possible," said Casey, whose budget request includes several hundred additional M1A1 Abrams battle tanks, 72 new C-130 cargo planes, and two brigades of artillery. "We're concerned about the safety of our troops, so we need to have the capacity to deal with insurgent forces all the way from the Iraqi border through to Tehran."

Casey has requested a budget increase for the Pentagon, so that the government can reward recruits who serve in the U.S. mission to exit Iraq.
"The plan also includes a minor stopover for refueling and provisional replenishment in Syria," Casey said. "But I don't expect we'll need more than 50,000 additional troops for that stretch of the Iraq pullout."

Bush's plan has met with widespread support.

"The people who said Iraq was a quagmire and that the president would never get our troops out are now eating crow," said Sean Hannity on his popular radio show Tuesday. "Of course, I don't expect anyone will have the honor to come forward and actually admit that they were wrong to question our commander-in-chief."

Sioux Falls, SD's Dianne Haverbuck, who has two sons in the military, said she was pleased to hear of the impending exit.

"Don and Kenneth have already been in Iraq an extra four months, so it's so good to hear that they'll finally be leaving that dangerous place," Haverbuck said. "I can't tell you how happy I was when the president said—what was it? I wrote it down. 'Getting our troops out of the Middle East and back home to their families is a viable long-term goal.'"

"I can't wait to see the boys," Haverbuck added.

Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Hoseini-Khamenei welcomed the exit plan.

"Let the Allied armies come to Iran," Khamenei said. "I believe I can assure you that, if they do withdraw here, their brothers-in-arms in the Islamic Republican Army, the Revolutionary Guards Corps, the Quds special forces units, and the Basij Popular Mobilization Army will no doubt do everything they can to make the troops' trip back home memorable."

alp
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:26 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:30 pm

Is this a joke? Source?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

Vladimir
Shaswar
Shaswar
 
Posts: 2036
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:31 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
Nationality: Hispanic

PostAuthor: alp » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:10 pm

vladimir you are funny ..

alp
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:26 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:13 am

it looks like gossip.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then YOU WIN !
User avatar
dyaoko
Shaswar
Shaswar
Founder
Founder
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3383
Images: 105
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:09 am
Location: Kurdistan
Highscores: 1
Arcade winning challenges: 1
Has thanked: 287 times
Been thanked: 362 times
Nationality: Kurd

PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:14 am

you know news and medias need some gossips to put presure on iran.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then YOU WIN !
User avatar
dyaoko
Shaswar
Shaswar
Founder
Founder
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3383
Images: 105
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:09 am
Location: Kurdistan
Highscores: 1
Arcade winning challenges: 1
Has thanked: 287 times
Been thanked: 362 times
Nationality: Kurd

PostAuthor: alp » Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:54 am

dyaoko you are funny too ..

it is not gossip, it is sarcasm ..

alp
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:26 am
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

PostAuthor: Amanc » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:36 pm

35% turks and 35% persians? i disagree. i thinkt at least 55% persians.
What if tomorrow never comes and you don't know how I feel?
User avatar
Amanc
Shermin
Shermin
 
Posts: 130
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:11 pm
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Thu May 03, 2007 7:49 pm

Amanc wrote:35% turks and 35% persians? i disagree. i thinkt at least 55% persians.


Persians make up 51% of the population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_minorities_of_Iran

Persian 51%, Azari 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%.


And Iran it self was an empire before it became a theocratic republic and a country.
User avatar
Darkseid
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 425
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 8:02 pm
Location: United States
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time

PostAuthor: Diri » Thu May 03, 2007 8:55 pm

Don't believe those fake numbers given by the Islamic Republic of Iran...

The Persians are at MOST 35% of the population of Iran...
Image
Image
User avatar
Diri
Shaswar
Shaswar
 
Posts: 6517
Joined: Thu May 12, 2005 11:59 am
Location: Norway
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 10 times
Nationality: Kurd

PostAuthor: Darkseid » Fri May 04, 2007 1:21 am

Diri wrote:Don't believe those fake numbers given by the Islamic Republic of Iran...

The Persians are at MOST 35% of the population of Iran...


What makes you say that the Persians make up at most 35% of the population?

By the way that 51% percentile did not come from Persian sources. Persians argue they make up more of the percentile than that numerical value. Also, according to the Dran if one group of people argue one way and another group of people argue in the opposite direction, then obviously the middle of the two would be nearest to the truth. This is only if you are able to find a source that argues between the two. And 50% does make a lot of sense at being the percentile of Persians in Iran rather than the two extremes presented by both opposing factions. That doesn't mean that all 50% of people in Iran agree with the government's decision making. To be honest it could be that 70% of the Persians in Iran (which would be 35% of the population) would agree to abide by the government's decisions. The other 30% (15% of the total population) would differ and may consider as a different group in that manner. This would be similar to differing people in America that oppose or support the president's decisions.
User avatar
Darkseid
Ashna
Ashna
 
Posts: 425
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 8:02 pm
Location: United States
Highscores: 0
Arcade winning challenges: 0
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time


Return to Middle East

Who is online

Registered users: Bing [Bot]

x

#{title}

#{text}