Turkish Union - realistic?

[xosere]

The idea behind Turkish union is more like checking available options. EU is making so deficult for us to join in so we have to look at alternatives. But this is almost impossible because of diffirences between Turkey with any other Turkish nation. We ofcourse love and help each other but because of the culturel differences over almost a thousand years of sepperation this is just an utopia. If you think such an union you can easly imagine how powerful it could get.

Well, do Turkey and EU share similar cultures? Obviously, cultural differences between
Europe and Turkey is as vast as between central Asia and Turkey. At least, Central Asia
is mostly Muslim.

You don't make any sense at all.

I think Turkic union is impossible just because Mongol in Central Asia are not interested in a Turkic
union, and they don't see themselves Turkish. They see themselves as Kirgiz, Kazak, and so on.
I talked to some of them. Neither they look like Turks in Anatolia, nor they have any sympathy for them.

You tell me that I do not make sense but you repaeat what I said afterwards.

This is really funny. If you read my post again, you will see that I mean your
"cultural difference" argument does not make any sense. Just read it again.
I just quoted what you said about cultural difference.

You say there is a cultural difference between Central Asia and Turkey, so a
Turkic union is not possible. I think there is a cultural difference between
Turkey and EU too. Then how does joining to EU become possible?

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I met with one guy from Azerbaijan, one guy from Russian Bashkirdistan,
two guys from Turkmenistan, and two women from Kazakishtan, and none
of them like Turkey and none of them consider themselves Turkish. The
guy from Bashkirdistan told me that he is happy living in Russia because
they have their own local government, parliament, schools and so on. He
also said Turkey's treatment to its minorities is brutal and he wouldn't
want to live in Turkey.

It is funny that nobody wants you guys. Maybe there is something wrong
with you.

[SinekSekiz]

Thanks for your concern about my sleep but I cant sleep more then 3 or 4 hours. : )

And I think its better to check my post again because I did some edits on it so you might want to revise or keep your post same.

I did not mean to population I meant the production capacity of such union. But I had to state agin it is so hard and almost immposible. I mentioned culturel difference because of the common misunderstanding and actually weak point of this that people who think about this also think all the Turks on the planet are same. I was pointing the misconception behind the idea. So actually we did say the same thing in different ways. (My way would be less grammatical)

And you do not have to or at least try to insult me in every post like "is something wrong with you" there is really no need for that.

I do not want to lie and this is something that I heard but somebody told me that Republic of Turkeys production slightly higher then Italy. You might want to double check on that.

I need to go to bed. GF complaining. : P Hell you can not get in to politics whitout getting in to trouble with a woman these days... > : [ I'll check on tommorrow. I am really curious what kind of reaction I will get from moderation after my little critisizm in my message.

And I am keep forgetting this but I am a beginner in English so if you want me to clerify something I can. Sorry for that.

[Barış]

I met with one guy from Azerbaijan, one guy from Russian Bashkirdistan,
two guys from Turkmenistan, and two women from Kazakishtan, and none
of them like Turkey and none of them consider themselves Turkish. The
guy from Bashkirdistan told me that he is happy living in Russia because
they have their own local government, parliament, schools and so on. He
also said Turkey's treatment to its minorities is brutal and he wouldn't
want to live in Turkey.

It is funny that nobody wants you guys. Maybe there is something wrong
with you.

You've only heard opinions from 6 Turkic people that don't like Turkey. How can you say/think that when you asked such a small percentage? There are plenty of Azeris that consider themselves Turks. Also the Bashkirs, Turkmen and Kazaks are Turkic people. I'm Turkic and I like Turkey.















Türkiye'yi çok seviyorum!

[xosere]

You've only heard opinions from 6 Turkic people that don't like Turkey. How can you say/think that when you asked such a small percentage? There are plenty of Azeris that consider themselves Turks. Also the Bashkirs, Turkmen and Kazaks are Turkic people. I'm Turkic and I like Turkey.

Okay, 6 to 1. So what? I didn't say everyone of them don't like Turkey. It is well known
that most of them don't feel any sympathy for Turks.

[zurderer]

met with one guy from Azerbaijan, one guy from Russian Bashkirdistan,
two guys from Turkmenistan, and two women from Kazakishtan, and none
of them like Turkey and none of them consider themselves Turkish. The
guy from Bashkirdistan told me that he is happy living in Russia because
they have their own local government, parliament, schools and so on. He
also said Turkey's treatment to its minorities is brutal and he wouldn't
want to live in Turkey.

It is funny that nobody wants you guys. Maybe there is something wrong
with you.


Wow. What a sciencific approach. I meet one kurd from trabzon and he said, he does not like zaza bla bla bla bla.

[Savy]

Thanks for your concern about my sleep but I cant sleep more then 3 or 4 hours. : )

And I think its better to check my post again because I did some edits on it so you might want to revise or keep your post same.

I did not mean to population I meant the production capacity of such union. But I had to state agin it is so hard and almost immposible. I mentioned culturel difference because of the common misunderstanding and actually weak point of this that people who think about this also think all the Turks on the planet are same. I was pointing the misconception behind the idea. So actually we did say the same thing in different ways. (My way would be less grammatical)

Well, my point is that that kind of Turkic union is not impossible. Nowadays, it is common tendency to form a union or trade zone among the countries (Arab league is after some kind of "zolverein" among her members). But there are some obstacles (I mentioned them above) to overcome in the first place.
Regarding the production capacity, production capacity is measured by two factors: labour x capital. Though, this union may have a high population, they are short of capital and that is what makes you dependent on your rival countries.

And I am keep forgetting this but I am a beginner in English so if you want me to clerify something I can. Sorry for that.

Your English skills are more than enough. No need to worry. Sleep well, it will improve, believe me

[xosere]

met with one guy from Azerbaijan, one guy from Russian Bashkirdistan,
two guys from Turkmenistan, and two women from Kazakishtan, and none
of them like Turkey and none of them consider themselves Turkish. The
guy from Bashkirdistan told me that he is happy living in Russia because
they have their own local government, parliament, schools and so on. He
also said Turkey's treatment to its minorities is brutal and he wouldn't
want to live in Turkey.

It is funny that nobody wants you guys. Maybe there is something wrong
with you.

Wow. What a sciencific approach. I meet one kurd from trabzon and he said, he does not like zaza bla bla bla bla.

You guys are really weird. I didn't claim that I had a scientific approach.
I am just writing my observations and conversations with a certain group
of people.

Nevertheless, I am more scientific than Turkish professors who wrote
"Zaza ve Kurt Oguz Boylari" book.

[zurderer]

You are trying to show your petty experiences as reality.

well becoming better than a moron does not mean much. do it?

[xosere]

You are trying to show your petty experiences as reality.

well becoming better than a moron does not mean much. do it?

What is your problem dude? I don't care what you and others think about what I said
above. It is just what its. Get a life!

[zurderer]

Be calm, I am sure you can find some TURKmen who hate "turk" word.

[xosere]

Be calm, I am sure you can find some TURKmen who hate "turk" word.

Oh God! You guys don't know how to read I guess. Well I didn't said they hate Turks.
I said they don't have any sympathy for Turks. That is well known.

Should I remind you that 400 Kazakhs beat 200 Turkish workers last year in Kazakhstan
and send 140 of them to hospitals?