Strengthen the Turkish - Kurdish Brotherhood

[schoolmaster1954]

unity beetween muslims would solute all problems about language,culture,race..a big union thats shuld be worked on carefully. but the question is who are ready to take the first step to this mission? nobody in middleeast seems to be intrested

Indeed. there is CENTO amongst Turkey, Iran and Pakisten. We can enlive and enlarge it. Turkey must take the first step to solve Kurdish problem in Turkey. But we need a Peresedent like deceased Turgut Özal. He was a vwry crourageous Staete man and Republic Presedent. If we have a good Presedent like him with AKP next term, we can solve it very easily. AKP gave many ethnic rights but it has a difficult job. It is not alone. It shares authority. I'm vwry hopeful for the future.
Wassalam.

[Parsi]

Kurds, Persians, Gilaki, Talysh, Baluch, etc. are ALL MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS DISPITE THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

I have good CHRISTIAN ARMENIAN friends.

Just because you are Christian, Jew, and Zoroastrian DOES NOT mean you are a bad person. And just because you are Muslim doesn't mean you're a GOOD person. There are bad people in each one so you can keep this backwards idealogy to yourself my good Osman.

Your ancestors killed both of my great grandfathers in war and killed my great great grandmother when they looted her house - Were they not "Muslim Brothers and Sisters" ????

[cazyun]

parsi kurds dont belong to that list pleaze...balchu,persian, whatever are brothers but not with us...they hav killed and assimilated many kurds

[Parsi]

parsi kurds dont belong to that list pleaze...balchu,persian, whatever are brothers but not with us...they hav killed and assimilated many kurds

Correction: Their governments have done that - not the average everyday people. The IRI doesn't represent the mass majority residing within Iran.

[Diri]

Apology accepted, Cazyun...

parsi kurds dont belong to that list pleaze...balchu,persian, whatever are brothers but not with us...they hav killed and assimilated many kurds

You say that about Persians and Baloch...

Why don't you say the same about Turks? Persians never did anything close to the genocides, rapes, massacres and forced assimilation Turks did...

The Baloch never even touched a Kurd... The Baloch are like the Kurds, divided by fake borders and should be given self-determination, just like the Kurds... They are divided between three countries, we are divided between four...

Same matter...

But I don't understand you Cazyun... You boost of Turks and make them sound like angels... Yet you say Persians did far worse things against Kurds than Turks...

Truth is, if you make Turks into Angels - then the Persians are prophets... Because the Turks did and still do so much evil against Kurds... It's a shame!

[cazyun]

yeah it was iranies ruling...it doesnt changes anything the majority are persians(iranies) they have killed lots of azeris and kurds and deported them to different places in iran...the irani ideologie is to make all kurds iranies including turks to..cut it pleaze there is no islamic ruling over there only mullahs insulting innicent people...

correction:kurds not a iranic people or what you guys call it

[schoolmaster1954]

Apology accepted, Cazyun...

parsi kurds dont belong to that list pleaze...balchu,persian, whatever are brothers but not with us...they hav killed and assimilated many kurds

You say that about Persians and Baloch...

Why don't you say the same about Turks? Persians never did anything close to the genocides, rapes, massacres and forced assimilation Turks did...

The Baloch never even touched a Kurd... The Baloch are like the Kurds, divided by fake borders and should be given self-determination, just like the Kurds... They are divided between three countries, we are divided between four...

Same matter...

But I don't understand you Cazyun... You boost of Turks and make them sound like angels... Yet you say Persians did far worse things against Kurds than Turks...

Truth is, if you make Turks into Angels - then the Persians are prophets... Because the Turks did and still do so much evil against Kurds... It's a shame!

Where do you live, Brother Diri?

[Parsi]

Something tells me Cazyun thinks that if he goes to Iran and speaks Kurdi and calls himself a Kurd that he'll be shot, discriminated against, or put in prison.

Go and shout your kurdishness from the roof tops cazyun - NO ONE will care - people will think you're coo coo but no one will care...

If you think that Persians and Kurds don't get along then I highly suggest you take a trip to Iran. THEN you can judge Persians, Baluch, Azars, etc...

[cazyun]

well i dont want to go to iran and second yes they iranies wants the land of kurds and turks...and yes that would happen to everybody in iran if you speak diffrent language

and azeris are turks they dont like iran they are forced to do that..

so dont play the president of iran ahmade bla bla

[Parsi]

well i dont want to go to iran and second yes they iranies wants the land of kurds and turks...and yes that would happen to everybody in iran if you speak diffrent language

and azeris are turks they dont like iran they are forced to do that..

so dont play the president of iran ahmade bla bla

Hmmm A kurd defending Osmons....

I said this to Womanizer and now I'm saying it to you - you're obviously uneducated in Iranian cultures and politics and your racism towards Persians and other Iranians is very obvious so I won't waste my time conversing with you. Once you get a non Pan-Turk education then come and talk to me.

Please don't converse with me any longer Turk - thank you

[Diri]

Apology accepted, Cazyun...

parsi kurds dont belong to that list pleaze...balchu,persian, whatever are brothers but not with us...they hav killed and assimilated many kurds

You say that about Persians and Baloch...

Why don't you say the same about Turks? Persians never did anything close to the genocides, rapes, massacres and forced assimilation Turks did...

The Baloch never even touched a Kurd... The Baloch are like the Kurds, divided by fake borders and should be given self-determination, just like the Kurds... They are divided between three countries, we are divided between four...

Same matter...

But I don't understand you Cazyun... You boost of Turks and make them sound like angels... Yet you say Persians did far worse things against Kurds than Turks...

Truth is, if you make Turks into Angels - then the Persians are prophets... Because the Turks did and still do so much evil against Kurds... It's a shame!

Where do you live, Brother Diri?

I live and breath in Norway... And I asked you which part of Ankara you live in... I know Ankara very well... Which part are you in? I am gonna quess Ulus or Macunköy or Batikent or some other generally islamist areas...

[cazyun]

heheheh parsi cant you come with better arguments then calling me A TURK? that was all you had to say about your deffence? i was telling the truth about the beautiful iran how can a land with 50 persians?! make noniranic people force to change their culture and origin? in fact iran in real is turkic 60 % of turkic origin

parsi that pic on your profile says much about you

[Diri]

Cazyun - I know both Iran and Turkey very well...

And you obviously don't know Iran well - but you do know Turkey...

You have some prejudice against Iran, which is not based on what you've read in books or seen on Lonely Planet - but based on what you have "heard" and what you "think"...

In Iran, there is a province called: Kurdistan... And there is a province called "Azerbaycan"... In Iran, there is a province called "Sistan va Balochestan" and one called "Fars" and another called "Gilan" and another called "Mazandaran"...

Now all the names of these places, are based on ethnic regions: Kurdish, Azeri, Baloch, Fars (Persian), Gilani and Mazandarani - these peoples/nations all reside in Iran - and even though Persian is the official language and Tehran is the capital, Kurdish, Baloch, Azeri and other languages are free to be spoken - and published in newspapers, magazines etc. There is no taboo in Kurdish clothes or dances or whatever else... Kurds are generally considered as more "ancient" and "noble" than most other Iranic nations...

There are of course in Tehran, many who consider Kurds as generally backwards - since we are traditional - however, those people in Tehran are the same who also think that people in Yazd, Khorasan and other rural areas also are "backwards"... It's a city-vs-village thing - not an ethnic thing...

However - in Turkey, Kurdish language was forbidden because it was a threat to "Turkish national integrity" for 80 years... In Turkey, Kurds were violently and brutally forced to assimilate... Nothing like this ever happened on an organized level in Iran... Yes - Persian was and is the official language - but Kurdish can be/could be studied at universities and schools...

You should try to support your accusations with some facts... I would be very interested in seeing facts which show that the government in Tehran organized and had an assimilation policy towards non-Persians...

Today the people who rule Iran are mostly ethnic Azeris... But for them it doesn't matter - as long as they are Shia...

[zurderer]

Hmmm A kurd defending Osmons....

My friend, It is sad you dont know any idea about history of kurds. Kurds are defending osmans last 500 year.

That is why you have kurds at eastern borders of iran. Kurds lands and power increased at ottoman times too.

It is sad that you are living in your dream world. Not reality.

[Piling]

Except the Kurdish revolts of 1830, 1843... and quite all the 19th century until nowadays.