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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:53 pm

PKK is Kurdistani party. It is is not party of parts!!! Never has been party of parts. and never will be, is first party of its kinds that put all Kurds under one umbrella.


Were Kurds consulted about that? Let's say I'm a kurd, it means I should recognize PKK authority without having any choice? It's ridiculous...
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:56 pm

One more thing, tell me which party of Kurdistan haven’t done dirty work in order to stay alive, cooperating with Kurds enemy in different part? Which party haven’t fought in civil war? Which party, haven’t kiss, Sadaam, or Asaad, or khumaini Hands???,


PKK collaborated with KDP against PUK and with PUK against KDP, also with Saddam (who gave weapons) against KDP.

AS for Assad, I would remind you that ÖCALAN himself said he would be forever thankful to Syria because he "ate their bread". He said that when he said that Syrian Kurds were wrong to riot against Assad.

It's really easy to yell about heroes who will be never forgotten, but the thing is that some people are educated enough to remember the history of the last 20 years, and can thus prove that everything you say is bullshit. It's not your fault, you just don't know anything...
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:28 pm

what you are saying is all lies and have no evidence and you are wasting good depate time.
heval diri, lets don't get into religion again.
lets take you out of the 40 million
39,999,999 kurdish people believe in serok ocalan.
i will contiue this on friday, till then goodbye friends.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:50 pm

And your sources are?? :lol:

Do you really think that southern kurds who have a free state expect something from PKK? The only thing it gave them is turkish troops at the border and iranian shelling...
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PostAuthor: womanizer » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:58 am

Dear Friends,
Let me make it very simple for those who really concerning Kurdish cause. Those friends who criticizing PKK in unhealthy way and questioning PKK , if it have any legitimate ideology in regard to Kurdistan struggle. It is absolute foolish, and unprofessional, I can challenge any one in world bring billions reason, for case of any political party in Kurdistan , that they have failed Kurdistan peoples, but I don’t do that that, neither I don’t call any one is betraying Kurds, because, as patriots I love all kurdistani peoples no matter what party or ideology they have. Let consider a family house as example for one second .Kurds is like family, problem between us is family matter,, unity is essentials in order house stay intact we can solve our difference through dialogue and communication, not by personal attacks we can come to some agreement how to run house, while everyone idea has been taken in account.
My friends, childish altitude, haters and insult to PKK leadership and ideology is worse than Turkish or Kurdish enemies’ propaganda(today in northern Kurdistan even in eastern or western Kurdistan anyone talking about Kurdish cause they consider them as PKK or terrorist. you have to think deeply why? Some fool simply come out oh well Pkk make us terrorist blah blah, that is exactly what those government doing to make you think like that) .this kind attitude is not helping Kurdistan struggle, is game, wake up brothers sisters. Let keep house matters inside house(Kurdistan matters inside Kurdistan). Accept that fact what like it or not PKK have proven enough to say a lot in Kurdish nation Future, he is BIG brother in the house and a lot brother sisters agrees with big brother and some may they don’t.
let respect thousands our mothers and fathers who lost their beloved daughters or sons under banners of PKK for Kurdistan, let respect our little Childs as younger as 4 years old or less , who first day they come out their mouth in a day they start talking is ” BIJI Serok APO” while this our beloved Childs bodies pieces in Amed and other town or village sin Kurdistan , let have some dignity and let think deeply that we are Kurdish. Let put moral of our young men and women who today in front lines and been bombarded in three front lines. Let ‘s not fail them.

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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:02 pm

tomjez i see you in nearly all the sites which belong to kurdish issues and you always handing out crap. sad.
there is nothing you will agree with and because i have seen so lies from your country, there is no chance in hell that i will agree with yours.
all kurds believe in peace, accept me, i will never accept the turkey or the arab country's as a demoratic society.
and because of this tomjez, turkey will forever live in fear from kurds who are developing allergic reactions to the turkishness.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:30 pm

Do you really think that southern kurds who have a free state expect something from PKK? The only thing it gave them is turkish troops at the border and iranian shelling...


I confirm that Southern Kurds don't care of PKK. And it is not the most influent party in Western Kurdistan. And in fact if we could make a free poll in Northern Kurdistan, perhaps the results could be a surprised. At the end, the votes for DEHAP is not so huge. Perhaps they are fed up with its stupid and incoherent policy.
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:38 pm

pilling don't get your confused paws into a kurdish issue which you don't understand.
do you know what people on the streets of every main kurdish citys are shouting out.
biji pkk
biji apo
biji kurdistan
(I try to express myself in a civilized way, but as an Apocî it is very difficult for me, but I will make effort).

(apocî language translated in normal language by moderator).

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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:17 pm

Freedom +unity if you don't wash your mouth there you are fired. You are in a civilized forum, not in one of your PKK meeting where all opponents are "black dogs", etc. And then you could cry in other places where you could present yourself as a victim of fascism, like your so brave serok adore to present himself.
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:26 am

trying to control us pilling
are you also a mullah.
you don't have a clue about the foundation of kurdistan. putting words into my message. sad sad man

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:30 am

DTP is doing a good job in Northern-Kurdistan. Apart from their useless Apo statements.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:53 am

pilling have you singned in as vladimir.lol

you don't have a clue about kurdish state. i don't believe in war and the pkk has defended our motherland.but as pkk has changed there name to kongre gel, its aim to take it self to the political agenda in europe.
pkk members are not from the north but also mainly from the east, south, west kurdistan.
you are dividing the country just like the arab and turkish state has done for years.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:18 pm

t is Öcalan who stated that he is going to collaborate with Turkish state because "he was so fond of Turkey", against Kurdish nationalism, not me.
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:56 am

I agree with Vlad, DTP is doing a good job. Anyway the "non-PKK" part of it...
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PostAuthor: freedom+unity » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:28 pm

i think we should wait and see the outcome of all parties in kurdistan.

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