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A place to talk about domestic politics in Middle East (Iran, Iraq , Turkey, Syria) Also includes topics about Assyrian, Armenian, Chaldean .

Do you aprove of an Assyrian state in Kurdistan?

Yes - of course - long live equal rights - if we get independence so should they!
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Hell NO! We can't let them have that!
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Sure - as long as it is OUT of Kurdistan...
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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:08 pm

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Nice tradition of the assyrian wedding, that picture is beautiful.


lool thats assyrians of old time how they did wear and this is celebrated on 1st of april the end of Akitu (Assyrian New Years starts) and we dont have that everytiem at weeding that was something special and those who wanted to marry just did deciede to marry at that day .

How fool I was, I tought that constantiople's conquest celebrations were ridiculous....Turks have a lot to learn from assyrians


haha well not only the turks also arabs haha by the way youll see those events soon if well have an assyria and youll say then ohh whats turkey whats greece you should visit Assyria :lol:

and my kurdish neighbours your welcome

by the way i have a question if there is a kurdish and assyrian state can we assyrian go to kurds and say hey my friends you have done bad things against us in the first war so pay blood money(and you guys have alot of oil so it will be no problem) we just make it like the jews did to the germans and for sure turkey have the fault for that but kurds did the job.


What is this crap Rumtaya? "Kurds did the job"? That sounds disgusting... Haven't I told you a hundred times? :?

SOME KURDISH TRIBES - which means - SOME IN NORTHERN KURDISTAN - NOT Southern, Eastern OR Western Kurdistan... JUST SOME NORTHERN KURDISH TRIBES... :roll:

That does not mean "KURDS killed Assyrians" - by the way - how about YOU pay blood money for all the Kurds you killed? You know - like when you were helpong the British in Iraq - Churchill used chemical weapons against us - and YOU were HELPING the British... How many people died? :?

And there are many other things too - I am sure...

But LET'S BE SERIOUS and REASONABLE... :roll: How can you demand "blood money" when YOU also killed Kurds... But we don't say "Assyrians killed Kurds" - we say "SOME"... :wink:
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:04 pm

What is this crap Rumtaya? "Kurds did the job"? That sounds disgusting... Haven't I told you a hundred times?

SOME KURDISH TRIBES - which means - SOME IN NORTHERN KURDISTAN - NOT Southern, Eastern OR Western Kurdistan... JUST SOME NORTHERN KURDISH TRIBES...

That does not mean "KURDS killed Assyrians" - by the way - how about YOU pay blood money for all the Kurds you killed? You know - like when you were helpong the British in Iraq - Churchill used chemical weapons against us - and YOU were HELPING the British... How many people died?

And there are many other things too - I am sure...

But LET'S BE SERIOUS and REASONABLE... How can you demand "blood money" when YOU also killed Kurds... But we don't say "Assyrians killed Kurds" - we say "SOME"...


hmm you got it right hey i did forget to put the some in it can happen lol.

by the way did you know that in the levy army there have benn also kurds and arabs and assyrian then later it became to Assyrian levy so it could be too that kurds of levy fought against their own people that wouldnt be something new by kurds would it be??

i just remeber the fight between kdp and puk so the truth looks other.
and well what do you think of assyrians after that there brothers and sister were killed 70% of our population diri please just look at that if that wouldnt happen the middle east would be look quite diffrent wouldnt it???

We do forgive but we wont never forget!

by the way my neighbour it was just asked not that you got angry man.

i hope soon that turkey regonice the genozid so the assyrians who left turkey can take their lands back :wink:

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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:39 pm

Rumtaya wrote:
What is this crap Rumtaya? "Kurds did the job"? That sounds disgusting... Haven't I told you a hundred times?

SOME KURDISH TRIBES - which means - SOME IN NORTHERN KURDISTAN - NOT Southern, Eastern OR Western Kurdistan... JUST SOME NORTHERN KURDISH TRIBES...

That does not mean "KURDS killed Assyrians" - by the way - how about YOU pay blood money for all the Kurds you killed? You know - like when you were helpong the British in Iraq - Churchill used chemical weapons against us - and YOU were HELPING the British... How many people died?

And there are many other things too - I am sure...

But LET'S BE SERIOUS and REASONABLE... How can you demand "blood money" when YOU also killed Kurds... But we don't say "Assyrians killed Kurds" - we say "SOME"...


hmm you got it right hey i did forget to put the some in it can happen lol.

by the way did you know that in the levy army there have benn also kurds and arabs and assyrian then later it became to Assyrian levy so it could be too that kurds of levy fought against their own people that wouldnt be something new by kurds would it be??

i just remeber the fight between kdp and puk so the truth looks other.
and well what do you think of assyrians after that there brothers and sister were killed 70% of our population diri please just look at that if that wouldnt happen the middle east would be look quite diffrent wouldnt it???

We do forgive but we wont never forget!

by the way my neighbour it was just asked not that you got angry man.

i hope soon that turkey regonice the genozid so the assyrians who left turkey can take their lands back :wink:


I wasn't angry - I was annoyed... :roll:


Yes - many Assyrians were killed - but don't say it was "Kurds did the job and Turks made the plan" - that sounds very bad... TURKS did ALL that SOME Kurds did + + + more... But you can't blame todays Turkish population - just as you can't blame todays Kurdish population - BUT you can blame the Turkish STATE...

Hey - why is Turkey gonna give back land just because it recognizes the genocides? I bet they will give you NOTHING... :lol: Turkey isn't so hospitable... :roll:
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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:42 pm

well cause the people of that places left of the war between turkish amry and pkk freedom fighters.

and isnt it their right to go back to their places?

thats something you can call democraty if turkey is democraty then they´ll by the way there are alot assyrians going to rebuild there homes first they start in turkey now there are assyrians doing the same in syria and iraq they do too.

one thing more i do have to say i am sure that the christians who are from the middle east wont leave maybe there will retrun some.

the problem in syria is the fight between them and israel if that will stop syria will be very nice.

for iraq i hope soon it will stop with those terrorist opressors etc.

freedoom for every good human!

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Re: ASSYRIA

PostAuthor: Rabshaqa » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:05 pm

According to History there was never a Kurdistan In Iraq or turkey.
Kurdistan is only a small region (Iklim in Arabic) in Iran.
actualy most of the kurds in turkey and iraq Are mainly Assyrians(eastern and waestern) and some few are armenians who were forced to convert to Islam since hundreds of years till current date, but regardless their religion there is no kurdish nation if there is some buddy show me something from history about that.
they are not turks nor persians few of them are from Mongolian origin who came w Jenkiz-khan and others; but most of them are Assyrians,the proof ur are saying about some 300-400B.C. is totally wrong there is a small village called kourdou somewhere in armenian turkey.and that's it.
if they are such old could any one name me a city that kurds established anywhere? but where ever you did in the current kurds existing locations you will find assyrian ruins and youo have thousands of books and documents in world history about that.
so i guess if any kurdish wants to seek his true origins and read in a reasonable way the history of the region he will find that mostrly he is from assyrian origins.
but kurdistan there is no such things just some kurdish agha's who were blud thursty and pushed by the turks to kill the "Kuffar".

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Re: ASSYRIA

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:51 am

Rabshaqa wrote:According to History there was never a Kurdistan In Iraq or turkey.
Kurdistan is only a small region (Iklim in Arabic) in Iran.
actualy most of the kurds in turkey and iraq Are mainly Assyrians(eastern and waestern) and some few are armenians who were forced to convert to Islam since hundreds of years till current date, but regardless their religion there is no kurdish nation if there is some buddy show me something from history about that.
they are not turks nor persians few of them are from Mongolian origin who came w Jenkiz-khan and others; but most of them are Assyrians,the proof ur are saying about some 300-400B.C. is totally wrong there is a small village called kourdou somewhere in armenian turkey.and that's it.
if they are such old could any one name me a city that kurds established anywhere? but where ever you did in the current kurds existing locations you will find assyrian ruins and youo have thousands of books and documents in world history about that.
so i guess if any kurdish wants to seek his true origins and read in a reasonable way the history of the region he will find that mostrly he is from assyrian origins.
but kurdistan there is no such things just some kurdish agha's who were blud thursty and pushed by the turks to kill the "Kuffar".


Welcome to RBK Khona Rabshaqa u khili lebokh Atoraya :D

This issue has been discussed over and over and I do not think there is a point in discussing any further .Your conclusion are not only simplistic and self serving , they are also naive driven by dark events in the history . I understand you have a beef with Kurds , but denying the existance of a nation is not the right approach .

You see khona someone can turn around and tell you that Assyrian do not exist and there is no way in hell you can prove any link to ancient assyrian culturaly or linguisticaly and go even futher and tell you that even GOD hate assyrian . and bring you verses from the Bible that Assyrian were completly wiped out by Babylonians and Medians in 612 BC if I'm not mistaken .

Or he can just tell you , Yes assyrian exist but only below the ground and we live above the ground , I could go on , but I guess you get where this going .

Here what almighty BIBLE Say about you .

In Nahum 3:1-7 we read: "Doomed is the lying, murderous city, full of wealth to be looted and plundered! Listen! The crack of the whip, the rattle of the wheels, the gallop of horses, the jolting of chariots! Horsemen charge, swords flash, spear gleam! Corpses are piled high, deed bodies without number- men stumble over them! Nineveh the ***** is being punished. Attractive and full of deadly charms, she enchanted nations and enslaved them. The Lord almighty says, I will punish you, Nineveh! I will strip you naked and let the nations see you, see you in all your shame. I will treat you with contempt and cover you with filth. People will stare at you in horror. All who see you will shrink back. They will say, Nineveh lies in ruins! Who has any sympathy for her? "


In Nahum 2:13 we read: "I am your enemy!" says the Lord almighty. "I will burn up your chariots. Your soldiers will be killed in war, and I will take away everything that you took from others. The demands of your envoys will no longer be heard"

The Bible says,, The Lord hates and cannot tolerate: 1. A proud look, 2. A lying tongue, 3. Hands that kill innocent people, 4. A mind that thinks wicked plans 5. Feet that hurry off to do evil, 7. And a man who stirs up trouble among friends (Proverbs 6:16-19)

The Bible says: ,, God Himself will fight against the Assyrians. Long ago a place was prepared where a huge fire will burn the emperor of Assyria. It is deep and wide, and piled high with wood. The Lord will breath out a stream of flame to set it on fire"(Isaiah 30: 33).. . Assyria will be destroyed in war, but not by human power" (Isaiah 31:8 )

The Bible says,, Worthless wicked people go around telling lies. They wink and make gestures to deceive you, all the while planning evil in their perverted minds, stirring up trouble everywhere. Because of this, disaster will strike them without warning, and they will be fatally wounded" (Proverbs 6:12-15)

Insulting otheres is the easiest thing to do , even a moron can do it . but establishing friendships , understanding the suffering of the otheres , finding common grounds is a quality that not many people possess . You have to choose what group do you belong too .

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PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:39 am

Rabshaqa wrote:According to History there was never a Kurdistan In Iraq or turkey.
Kurdistan is only a small region (Iklim in Arabic) in Iran.
actualy most of the kurds in turkey and iraq Are mainly Assyrians(eastern and waestern) and some few are armenians who were forced to convert to Islam since hundreds of years till current date, but regardless their religion there is no kurdish nation if there is some buddy show me something from history about that.
they are not turks nor persians few of them are from Mongolian origin who came w Jenkiz-khan and others; but most of them are Assyrians,the proof ur are saying about some 300-400B.C. is totally wrong there is a small village called kourdou somewhere in armenian turkey.and that's it.
if they are such old could any one name me a city that kurds established anywhere? but where ever you did in the current kurds existing locations you will find assyrian ruins and youo have thousands of books and documents in world history about that.
so i guess if any kurdish wants to seek his true origins and read in a reasonable way the history of the region he will find that mostrly he is from assyrian origins.
but kurdistan there is no such things just some kurdish agha's who were blud thursty and pushed by the turks to kill the "Kuffar".


According to Kulka the user called "Rabshaqa" is only small hearted full of fear guy, another one who has nightmares about KURDISTAN THE GREAT!
actually put in your head, dear shipshagga... ups, sorry rabshaqa - that KURDISTAN THE GREAT is proud conutry and one day you and the rest like you will see its power.
by the way - of course there was never KURDISTAN in iraq or turkya, coz KURDISTAN is in KURDISTAN, like for example Italy is in Italy and France is in France - it is called logic.
(and dont insult my country coz you gonna be in trouble, basha?)
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PostAuthor: kardox » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:01 am

Lets assume we were Assyrians and Armenians and were forced to convert to Islam(this can be likely for a small portion of Kurds, but anyways). Lets look at the situation now, we see us as Kurds and we are proud of it. No nation in the world is fully homogeneous and the Kurdish nation is no exception.
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PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:46 pm

kardox wrote:Lets assume we were Assyrians and Armenians and were forced to convert to Islam(this can be likely for a small portion of Kurds, but anyways). Lets look at the situation now, we see us as Kurds and we are proud of it. No nation in the world is fully homogeneous and the Kurdish nation is no exception.


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Re: ASSYRIA

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:52 am

get the fuck out of this Kurdish website you red indian middle eastern arab . this is a Kurdish site no place for red indians . please the admin ban this aboriginal . no kurdish member allowed on the assyrianvoice website why should be let these aboriginals in here !!!!

GET OUT OF HERE YOU AND YOUR STUPID ASS TOPIC WE AINT BUYING THIS AND THIS ISNT OUR PROBLEM GO AND SPREAD YOUR DECEASE ELSEWHERE


and chaldeans arent assyrians they are Babylonians yous are assyrians dont mix yourselves with them they are they true Kurdish friends and they want to live with us not yous just simply cos yous dont agree with there churches and keep calling them assyrians lol . not gonna happen sorry .

and oh with what army you nostrians gonna get an independence country !!! 100 soldiers ??? ahahaha . nice try
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:57 am

NO ITS NOT ALLOWED FOR A KURD TO TALK ABOUT A FREE KURDISTAN ON ANY ASSYRIAN WEBSITE BUT YOU BACK STABBING GREEK ORIGINS CAN COME ON A KURDISH WEBSITE AND SPREAD A DREAM LAND !! LOL DONT EVEN DARE COMPARE YOURSEVES TO KURDS WE ARE BRAVE AND DIE FOR OUR LANDS NOT A SCARED SHITLESS PPL THAT JUST RUN AWAY INSTEAD OF FIGHTING . YOUS CAN HAVE YOUR STATE IN BAGHDAD ONLY AS YOUS LOVE ARABS JOKES ON KURDS AND CALL US GYPSIES . GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE .
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:21 pm

and diri if you consider yourself a kurd then your a jash my friend . admins plz block this post . :?
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PostAuthor: Kulka » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:43 pm

Kak Alan - please dont swear - whatever anyone doing, dont be the same. Kurds are great and should show it to all enemies, thats why i always say to all my brothers (sisters usually dont do that :lol: ) - even if our enemies swear or do anything else bad to us - dont do the same. We are who we are also because we dont do the same to others, what others doing to us.
when turks coming to my accounts to annoy me with their swearing - i never swear back, i make fun of them (coz first of all they are funny in their attempts and their desperation and fear of Kurdistan) and also i prove them that they are nothing, but with using brain, not with swearing.
and one more thing my beloved brother kak Alan - i dont want to get my heart break watching Kurd calling another Kurd "jash" for reasons which are not worth that.
I am working with one Kermashani boy, when he saw i had on my papers pad small shape of Kurdistan map with the colour of kurdish flag (which i made myself at work :D ) he was laughing and said there is no Kurdistan and its only a dream, but i keep myself from calling him "jash". No need, coz when our dream (Kurdistan) will come true one day, it will became nightmare for people like him and it will be enough punishment.
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:46 am

watch this assyrian dumb ass lol no wonder there so all over iraq cos god forgot to give them a brain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqmSVg5FYNI
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PostAuthor: kardox » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:15 pm

alan131210 wrote:watch this assyrian dumb ass lol no wonder there so all over iraq cos god forgot to give them a brain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqmSVg5FYNI



Please kak alan, take it easy bra. It is very serious to call someone jash. I know kak Diri and he is a very fine and educated young kurdish man. I agree that we should not give space to people to insult os, but if they are here as civilized persona they are welcome.
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