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Children of French jihadist mothers in Syria should be freed

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Children of French jihadist mothers in Syria should be freed

PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:40 pm

French jihadist mothers in Syria face terrible choice

For dozens of French women detained in Syria, an impossible choice looms: keeping their children in a war zone, or sending them home knowing they might never see each other again.

Like other Western nations which experienced a jihadist exodus to Iraq or Syria, France is grappling with how to handle citizens left in the war zone following heavy losses for the Islamic State group.

Last week, France announced plans to start repatriating an estimated 150 children, many of them being held alongside their mothers by Kurdish forces in Syria following ISIS defeats.

But French officials made clear that the mothers themselves will not be welcomed home. :ymapplause:

A few days ago, Nadine -- her name has been changed -- got a phone call from her daughter-in-law in a Kurdish camp.

The young mother was in tears. "Do I have to abandon my children in order for them to go back to France?" she sobbed.

- Right to a fair trial? -

Nadim Houry, a senior Human Rights Watch official who regularly visits the Kurdish camps, said France's announcement would "bring an end to an unbearable situation".

There are no schools or activities for children in the camps, where poor hygiene causes regular bouts of diarrhoea, vomiting and skin infections.

Lawyers for the mothers, pushing for the whole families to be repatriated, have complained for months of "deplorable" conditions in the camps.

"My daughter-in-law gets sick a lot, like her children," Nadine told AFP. "She only weighs 45 kilos (99 pounds)."

Reluctant to bring extremists back onto home soil, France has so far insisted its captured nationals must go on trial locally.

Some 260 adults and 80 minors have already returned to France from Syria or Iraq, and earlier this year French authorities estimated that more than 700 adults and 500 children were still in the war zone.

Several French adults have already been tried in Iraq and their children repatriated.

But in Syria, most of the remaining French nationals are being held in northern Syria in territory which, while under Kurdish control, does not constitute an internationally recognised state.

Kurdish forces have repeatedly insisted they will not try foreign prisoners and have called on the jihadists' home countries to repatriate them.

With a few exceptions such as Russia, Indonesia and Sudan, most countries have, like France, proved highly reluctant.

Houry said the idea that France could leave the Kurds to put its nationals on trial was "a fiction" that it was maintaining in a bid to avoid public alarm at a wave of impending jihadist returns.

Lawyers for the mothers, meanwhile, say it is a travesty that a country which touts itself as a beacon of human rights would separate parents from children and leave its citizens in a war zone.

William Bourdon, a lawyer for several of the women, insisted that "the vast majority have had no combat or active role in IS and have a right to a fair trial, which can only take place in France".

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PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:54 pm

FAIR TRIAL

Did the many hundreds of thousands of innocent people slaughtered by ISIS receive a fair trial, or any trial at all

    NO

Where the millions who lives have been destroyed by ISIS treated fairly

    NO

The wives willingly followed their savage husbands into Iraq and Syria

Do NOT view the ISIS wives as innocent people because they are NOT

They knew their husbands were slaughtering innocent people as they tried to take control of vast areas in order to transform them in to the Islamic State

The women were just as fanatical as their husbands and are just as dangerous, if not more so

Young children need to be removed from these savages and de-brain washed then, hopefully, they will have some form of normality in their lives
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:55 pm

William Bourdon, a lawyer for several of the women, insisted that "the vast majority have had no combat or active role in IS and have a right to a fair trial, which can only take place in France".


Bullshit.

Lawyers for the mothers, meanwhile, say it is a travesty that a country which touts itself as a beacon of human rights would separate parents from children and leave its citizens in a war zone.


They are not French citizens anymore. They chose to be Daesh.

The truth is that PYD itself stated that there is a secret agreement between France and Kurds to NOT sent ISIS adults back to France. PYD representative just said that relations are "good" with France (PYD/YPG leaders were invited to Elysée by 2 presidents) and the case of ISIS prisoners had been negotiated.

Considering the children's situation, the best for them is to come back to their grand-parents' home (most of them are absolutely opposed to Jihadism and were not aware of their daughter's decision), after having received medical and psychological cares.
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