KRG - Sliced off areas (disputed areas)

[Kurdistano]

Discussions have turned to activating a joint committee that would coordinate the movement of Kurdish and Iraqi troops in the so-called disputed territories.

They are not going to let in Iraqi Soldiers are they?

[alan131210]

no, i read on AKnews Kurdish that the iraqi forces have began withdrawing from Zumar, both sides have agreed to face the tip of their guns towards Syria instead of at each other.

[alan131210]

MP criticizes Kurdistan govt. for not sending peshmarga to disputed area



 
ERBIL, Aug.3 (AKnews)- Head of the Human Rights Committee at Kurdistan Region's Parliament criticized the government for not sending extra forces to disputes areas of Diyala province in order to protect threatened people.
 
Last year 12 MPs visited the disputed areas in Diyala province and recommended that the government sent extra peshmarga (Kurdistan Border Guards) to the areas for protection of Kurds, said Salar Mahmoud.

He added "when we say peshmarga should be sent to these areas we don't mean that they should go only for protecting Kurds… but also for protecting Turkmans and Arabs in these area….However, mainly Kurds are targeted in these areas."

The MP continued added one year has elapsed and the recommendation has been overlooked.

Mahmoud said if the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) regards itself responsible for protecting the lives of the people in the disputes areas, "it has to enforce the decision of Kurdistan Parliament….for sending peshmarga to these areas."

He thought for sending extra forces to the areas in Diyala province the KRG should not wait for an agreement with Baghdad "because in these areas the situation of Kurds is at stake."

Mahmoud accused the Iraqi army of exercising "inimical" policy in these areas while the KRG has not been able to protect the people of these areas as it ought to.

The disputed areas refer to multiethnic areas whose ownership is disputed by the KRG and Baghdad.Joint Kurdish and Iraqi forces operate in the area, under an agreement between Erbil and Baghdad.

Kurdish officials claim more and more Kurds are targeted by the extremist groups in the disputes areas and they associate this with a plan to evacuate Kurds in order to change the demography of these areas.
 

[alan131210]

The visit by Oglu was arranged by KRG and was a msg to Iraq turkey no longer against annexation of Kirkuk, Oglu treated Kirkuk as a part of KRG by his visit , bcoz he got the visa from KRG foreign relations so meaning he did not need Iraqi visa to visit Kirkuk , he also said Kirkuk was the back bone of iraqs unity in other words he told baghdad after Kirkuk annexation to KRG Iraq will not exist as we know it, but what I think is KIRKUK is accepted by turkey to be annexed in return KRG drips PYD out of the WK supreme council.

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in other words he told baghdad after Kirkuk annexation to KRG Iraq will not exist as we know it, but what I think is KIRKUK is accepted by turkey to be annexed in return KRG drips PYD out of the WK supreme council.

Source for that? Turkey has not to decide who will be "dropped out of the supreme council and who not, the Kurds do.

[alan131210]

in other words he told baghdad after Kirkuk annexation to KRG Iraq will not exist as we know it, but what I think is KIRKUK is accepted by turkey to be annexed in return KRG drips PYD out of the WK supreme council.

Source for that? Turkey has not to decide who will be "dropped out of the supreme council and who not, the Kurds do.

Source for what ? PYD has dropped out and I am not turkey so don't point the finger at me, PYD is pissing me of they broke the Erbil agreement so now its KRG turn for pay back.

Just like how u have negative thoughts about GORRAN I have mine about these guys bcoz they chose party interest over Kurdistan interests and they will pay for it by been excluded from now on.

If I was KRG I'd send in the trained soldiers get rid of PYD flags and establish a Kurdish federal region ASAP.

[Kurdistano]

in other words he told baghdad after Kirkuk annexation to KRG Iraq will not exist as we know it, but what I think is KIRKUK is accepted by turkey to be annexed in return KRG drips PYD out of the WK supreme council.

Source for that? Turkey has not to decide who will be "dropped out of the supreme council and who not, the Kurds do.

Source for what ? PYD has dropped out and I am not turkey so don't point the finger at me, PYD is pissing me of they broke the Erbil agreement so now its KRG turn for pay back.

Just like how u have negative thoughts about GORRAN I have mine about these guys bcoz they chose party interest over Kurdistan interests and they will pay for it by been excluded from now on.

No no one was pointing the finger at you, yet it seems you feel so because you claimed something which is for your own interest.

They pissed you already off before they "breached" minor things in the Erbil agreement and you were constantly making bad names about them with your famous ( ) face

Gorran made so many bullshit and I mean HEAVY bullshit yet you still are one of the biggest protectors of them and think they should still be allowed to work in Kurdistan yet while PYD has made very smart steps and the only reason why West Kurdistan is stable now is thanks to them (holding out from the opposition was their move) and when it comes to them you want them to be dropped out? Not very fair isnt it?

Its not Turkey who is going to tell us if we should drop them out, its the Kurdish people if they dont want the PYD as part of the council and if the PYD keeps making failures or it is true that they are using bad methods to get support than they will, but not just because "Turkey told so"

If I was KRG I'd send in the trained soldiers get rid of PYD flags and establish a Kurdish federal region ASAP.

Fortunately (in this case) you are not part of KRG. And KRG will know how to use the PYD in the best way, just like how they knew to use the PKK.

[Kawe]

If I was KRG I'd send in the trained soldiers get rid of PYD flags and establish a Kurdish federal region ASAP.

That would be the single worst thing they could do for the struggle.

[alan131210]

No no one was pointing the finger at you, yet it seems you feel so because you claimed something which is for your own interest.

Yes you did dont act innocent now I am not buying it. For my own interest?

They pissed you already off before they "breached" minor things in the Erbil agreement and you were constantly making bad names about them with your famous ( ) face

They waved an alien flag and spread armed groups with wrapped up faces ? Which are total and immediate breach of Erbil , not minor bcoz unlike you I have read the Erbil agreement.

Gorran made so many bullshit and I mean HEAVY bullshit yet you still are one of the biggest protectors of them and think they should still be allowed to work in Kurdistan yet while PYD has made very smart steps and the only reason why West Kurdistan is stable now is thanks to them (holding out from the opposition was their move) and when it comes to them you want them to be dropped out? Not very fair isnt it?

First i am not a supporter or follower not just of gorran but any party thank god so do not put words into my mouth please, and GORRAN has made two mistakes and if I sat down and counted mistakes of other parties in SK you will bite your tongue, west Kurdistan is stable bcoz Assad withdraw it has nothing to do with PYD unlike parties of SK PYD has not fought against Assad.

Its not Turkey who is going to tell us if we should drop them out, its the Kurdish people if they dont want the PYD as part of the council and if the PYD keeps making failures or it is true that they are using bad methods to get support than they will, but not just because "Turkey told so"

Well KNC has been complaining about their actions since Assad withdrew from WK and as far as I know KNC is made of 15 parties vs PYD alone, this has nothing to do with turkey stop dropping their name too many times it hurts the eye to read 'turkey' that many times

Fortunately (in this case) you are not part of KRG. And KRG will know how to use the PYD in the best way, just like how they knew to use the PKK

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Fortunately for me I am from SK and can read Sorani and I will tell you things are not looking bright for PYD bcoz of their mistakes which they are told not to do but they did exactly the opposite, And they used PYD for getting Kirkuk, but if only u and them had listen you guys would still be around

[Kurdistano]

and spread armed groups with wrapped up faces ? Which are total and immediate breach of Erbil , not minor bcoz unlike you I have read the Erbil agreement.

Agreed they need to use the Kurdistan flag yet I didnt knew that wrapping up the faces was against the Erbil agreement. Or is this just another thing which is against your own agreement

Gorran made so many bullshit and I mean HEAVY bullshit yet you still are one of the biggest protectors of them and think they should still be allowed to work in Kurdistan yet while PYD has made very smart steps and the only reason why West Kurdistan is stable now is thanks to them (holding out from the opposition was their move) and when it comes to them you want them to be dropped out? Not very fair isnt it?

First i am not a supporter or follower not just of gorran but any party thank god so do not put words into my mouth please, and GORRAN has made two mistakes and if I sat down and counted mistakes of other parties in SK you will bite your tongue, west Kurdistan is stable bcoz Assad withdraw it has nothing to do with PYD unlike parties of SK PYD has not fought against Assad.

First of all dont put words into MY mouth which never used. I said you were the biggest PROTECTOR not supporter. There is a huge difference between them. Talsor is also witness of that. Gorran has done only 2 mistakes? And the only reason why West Kurdistan is stable is because Assad withdraw by doing nothing ? Do you really believe if it wasnt for the PYD, which didnt let in the opposition and had some smart ties to Assad. Assad would have withdrawn so fast? And the opposition wouldnt have turned West Kurdistan into a war zone.

And beside that Assad has not withdrawn fully and PYD did fight Assad thugs (6-10 of them were Killed) dont make the same propaganda our enemies do over West Kurdistan.

Well KNC gphas been complaining about their actions since Assad withdrew from WK and as far as I know KNC is made of 15 parties vs PYD alone, this is not tomdo with turkeymstop dropping their name it hurts the eye tom read turkey that many times

As I said if they are doing mistakes than the Kurdish people will make them accountable for that.

and I will tell you things are not looking bright for PYD bcoz of their mistakes which they are told not to do but they did exactly the opposite, And they used PYD for getting Kirkuk, but if only u and them had listen you guys would still be around

If they had listen to you who wanted the Kurds to join the opposition from beginning West Kurdistan would have been under Syrian control at the beginning.
KRG used PYD to get Kirkuk and they can use PYD to get much more.

[alan131210]

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I didnt knew that wrapping up the faces was against the Erbil agreement. Or is this just another thing which is against your own agreement

Funny you only took that out of the main wrong doings of PYD

First of all dont put words into MY mouth which never used. I said you were the biggest PROTECTOR not supporter. There is a huge difference between them. Talsor is also witness of that. Gorran has done only 2 mistakes? And the only reason why West Kurdistan is stable is because Assad withdraw by doing nothing ? Do you really believe if it wasnt for the PYD, which didnt let in the opposition and had some smart ties to Assad. Assad would have withdrawn so fast? And the opposition wouldnt have turned West Kurdistan into a war zone.

Again your putting more words into my mouth, there is no gorran person here so I posted some of their ideas to discuss about , so posting ideas of gorran makes me a "protector" lol I can say the same about you with your "protection" of the Islamic puppet parties in SK.

I am not protector of any party but I admired how gorran was the only party who stood against corruption in SK which was getting to a dangerous point amongst our community which lead barzani himself to introude his reform project last year and I think "some" of the things they say is true if that makes me a protector then I can't help you there.

And beside that Assad has not withdrawn fully and PYD did fight Assad thugs (6-10 of them were Killed) dont make the same propaganda our enemies do over West Kurdistan.

Assad withdrew from areas under PYD influence but till now they have not done so in Qamishlo bcoz that is where the KNC HQ is and that is where the trained soldiers from KRG will be sent to, having 6 killed is a revolution is it? This has nothing to do with who says what I listen and only see KNC as true representation of WK full stop.

As I said if they are doing mistakes than the Kurdish people will make them accountable for that

They already have it's not a question of "if" anymore

If they had listen to you who wanted the Kurds to join the opposition from beginning West Kurdistan would have been under Syrian control at the beginning.
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Again your great at putting words into people's mouth, SHOW ME where I wanted Kurds to be part of SNC

KRG used PYD to get Kirkuk and they can use PYD to get much more

Yes you know that now

[Kurdistano]

Alan, even thought the great mistakes Gorran has done, even though almost all users agreed that Goran is just a troublemaker and should be taken out of Kurdistan politics. You gave YOUR OWN OPINION. (you did not only post some of their articles but gave your own opinion) that they should be allowed to act in Kurdistan. If this is not protecting them, than we all have a different image of the meaning of this word.

And I never said you wanted Kurds becoming part of Syrian national Council but become part of the opposition and act against Assad.

It makes no sense to discuss about this matter man I think KRG knows what to do best.

[alan131210]

i told you i posted their idea and i said i liked "some" of their beliefs not all, i have criticized them too if you read my posts on that thread in earlier pages you will see i am not protector or terminator , i have also liked alot of actions of PDK and PUK so i must be their protectors too, in fact i have said many times that i am with all positive bits of the kurdish parties.

most of my threads about KRG prove which side i am a real protector of , so to put your propaganda about me, i am the protector of KRG, not Gorran not PDK not PUK or any other party.

anyways if u think wrapping the face and carry a guy is normal then you should be very normal about this too

but i am not with either PYD nor Gorran to wrap their faces up and formed their own armed groups.

[alan131210]

MP criticizes Kurdistan Govt. for not sending Peshmarga to disputed area

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/4/320019/

[alan131210]

GARMIYAN, Aug.4 (AKnews)- Local administration in Tuz Khurmatu (Salahaddin province) has decided to send back some 1,000 Arab families to their original places in Diyala province.

This is the second time the entire members of Tuz Khurmatu Municipality vote to expel the Arab settlers, said Shalal Abdul, Tuz Khurmatu mayor.

The decision was made on Wednesday.

Abdul said due to the large number of Arab settlers the house price and unemployment have increased and the security situation has been destabilized.  

The official added earlier the Iraqi government prevented the enforcement of the decision and now Salahaddin Provincial Council opposes it.

Unofficial reports are than following 2003 US-led invasion some 1,500 families from Diyala settled in the Tuz Khurmatu, one of the multi-ethnic areas whose ownership is disputed between Kurds and Baghdad.

Kurdish officials maintain settlement of Arab refugees in the disputed areas and threats for expelling Kurds from these areas is per-planned and intended to change the demography of the disputed areas.