Kurdistan independence related articles & photos

[diako_ber]

When wk is liberated, it should become part of the KRG and then become independent together. Or it should become independent immediately

[alan131210]

if the kurds liberate qamislo, than independence is possible, since syria can produce 300 000 b/pd oil and all oil comes from kurdish region. pipeline exists there already and is ready to work.

he didnt mean it bcoz of the oil, but bcoz another Kurdistan region will come about hence KRG will have a true ally in the region, so KRG can go ahead and declare a state as there will not be 3 locked doors from now on, it will be 2 locked doors and 1 open door.

[zaxo10]

he said the events in syria and WK will make the independent possible.

He really said that?

[Kurdistano]

if the kurds liberate qamislo, than independence is possible, since syria can produce 300 000 b/pd oil and all oil comes from kurdish region. pipeline exists there already and is ready to work.

he didnt mean it bcoz of the oil, but bcoz another Kurdistan region will come about hence KRG will have a true ally in the region, so KRG can go ahead and declare a state as there will not be 3 locked doors from now on, it will be 2 locked doors and 1 open door.

Still I hope The Kurds in West manage to open a small corridor to Mediterranean.

[Rando]

if the kurds liberate qamislo, than independence is possible, since syria can produce 300 000 b/pd oil and all oil comes from kurdish region. pipeline exists there already and is ready to work.

he didnt mean it bcoz of the oil, but bcoz another Kurdistan region will come about hence KRG will have a true ally in the region, so KRG can go ahead and declare a state as there will not be 3 locked doors from now on, it will be 2 locked doors and 1 open door.

Still I hope The Kurds inb West manage to open a small corridor to Mediterranean.

me to. access to the sea is very very important.

[alan131210]

use Google translate

http://www.ahewar.org/debat/show.art.asp?aid=316024

[alan131210]

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — A recent seminar, organized by Gulan magazine and the University of Erbil’s department of philosophy, allowed many viewpoints to be expressed under the topic “The Kurdish State: Between Reality and Utopia.”

Mala Bakhtiyar, head of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) political bureau and host of the seminar, said, “The right opportunity to declare the Kurdish independent state has not yet arrived.”

However, Shaho Saeed, spokesperson for the Change Movement (Gorran), said, “Many opportunities have arrived, but since we have not been able to deal with the local issues yet, we haven’t been able to declare a Kurdish state.”

Saeed believes the Kurdish leadership has missed many opportunities due to the issues inside Kurdistan. “How can we declare a Kurdish state without a national military and national security? Instead, we have the security forces of political parties,” he said.

According to Saeed, Kurdish leaders only want an independent Kurdish state if they can be in charge. Otherwise, they will go so far as to create obstacles to an independent Kurdish state being established.

But Bakhtiyar strongly disagrees with this idea, saying, “The opposition doesn’t know what the KDP and PUK know. The PUK has relations with 36 intelligence agencies worldwide, as does the KDP. We are aware of developments occurring around the world every day.”

He adds, “When the right time comes to declare independence, it will be obvious who has to make a decision and bear the consequences. At this point, federalism is our strategy as we enjoy international, regional and local support. We are not hopeless nor without a plan.”

Mahmoud Muhammed, a member of the KDP political bureau, described several factors necessary to establishing a Kurdish state, including geography, population, military capacity, diplomacy and unity between Kurds.

“We should assure neighboring countries that the establishment of a Kurdish state will not affect them negatively. We also have to discuss this issue with Baghdad peacefully,” he added.

After the 1991 uprising, the Kurdistan Region was freed from Saddam Hussein’s army and became an autonomous region. Following the fall of the regime in 2003, the Kurdistan Region was defined as federal entity. However, the Kurdistan Region and Iraqi government still have many disagreements, and talk of independence has emerged as tensions intensify.

Developments in the region are also changing the conversation. Bakhtiyar discussed the current situation in Syria, saying that fall of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime will bring a big opportunity for Kurds.

“By forming a new democratic government in Syria, I don’t believe countries in the region will be able to plot against the Kurds like they did in the past,” he said.

Bakhtiyar believes the fall of the Syrian regime will diminish many obstacles for the Kurds. He said, “The Islamists will not win if a clean election is held in Syria. What is happening in Syria is very important and will bring changes to the political dimensions that will be in the Kurds’ interests.”

Bakhtiyar spoke about recent developments in the wider region and their effects on Kurds. “The Middle East is changing. The changes will reshape the Middle East from its old system. The new Middle East will make Kurdish dreams come true. It is possible that, in the near future, unbelievable changes will occur in the Middle East.”

He also discussed the importance of timing in declaring the Kurdish state, saying that he believed the decision would be made in the next 10 years. “If the right time comes to declare an independent Kurdish state and we ignore it, the Kurdish people have the right to put us on trial,” Bakhtiyar said.

However, Saeed said, “The Kurdish independent state has become a symbol for the Kurdish leadership to scare others.”

He added, “Discussion of a Kurdish state is meant to pressure the Iraqi government to agree with the KRG’s oil contracts. When the Iraqi government agrees to them, we will quit mentioning the Kurdish state.”

[brendar]

President Massoud Barzani wants Greater Kurdistan to reach the Mediterranean sea.


http://rudaw.net/kurdish/index.php/raport/15820.html

[brendar]

Guys, if the place(i dont know what it is called) on the top of Hatay is kurdish, then how the hell is hatay turkish. Honestly, i do not understand.

[alan131210]

Others have mentioned this topic before me. But that is not important, I want to reiterate and draw your attention again.

Developments in Syria are shifting in different directions. The scenario I am talking about may not come true, but if it does we will be crying over spilt milk. I am quite angry at those who do not see where things are heading. This is not acceptable. What we have been fearing for years will actually happen because of our incompetence and because of our small thinking.

Let me explain.

Nobody knows to what extent this is true, but according to reports coming from both the opposition forces and observers, Bashar al-Assad is gradually giving up the fight in those regions close to the Turkish border. He is withdrawing his present forces toward Damascus and obviously he prioritizes the protection of Damascus, his presidential palace, and consequently himself and his family.

Reports are also coming through that Syrians of Kurdish origin are hoping to fill this vacuum. Kurds cannot find a better opportunity. They may or may not succeed, but they will surely want to make use of this opportunity.

Well, this is Turkey’s biggest fear: Kurds in Iraq and Syria acting together and gradually turning themselves into one unit. In the future they may annex other “sections” in Turkey and Iran and form a “Greater Kurdistan.”

Such developments are unfolding in the region and boundaries are so slippery that big sentences like “it will not happen,” or “we will not let it happen” cannot be uttered.

This kind of a thing could indeed happen and Turkey might just as well fall short of intervening.
Then, what are we going to do? Open war?

We should open our eyes, or we will break up
What do we do against all these developments? What would a smart society do?

Would it not see the bigger picture, understand where the incidents are heading, and try to solve the issue within its own land to avoid separation? Here is the most essential question: What effort are we making to solve our own Kurdish issue, to comfort our own citizens of Kurdish origin?

Like the janissary band, two steps forward, one step backward.

The ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) did not only take two steps, but three or four steps forward. Then it stopped. As a matter of fact, we had high hopes. We were aware that the separation of the country could have been prevented if the issue was reduced to “habitable” levels.

We have seen the dangers of reducing the issue to simply terror and the fight against PKK and to stay there permanently.

Either we are completely wrong or the government does not see the bigger picture. It assumes that it can lead anywhere with stances similar to that of the Interior Minister İdris Naim Şahin. It is not making use of the opportunities that have arrived, in order not to lose any votes to the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP).

Because of small political calculations, we are losing a major cause. Either that or the government is playing such a marvelous chess game that none of us can understand.

If so, be sure that I am ready to apologize. If not, then I will continue to cry out that my country is being pushed to division step by step and that those responsible should be held accountable.

Let’s see who will be proved right.


from hurrieyt or something

[brendar]

They are talking in a way like it is their lands and they are worried about it. Turks know better than us that our Greater Kurdistan is on its way......

[Rando]

they also know we will become a regional superpower if we get access to the sea

[brendar]

they also know we will become a regional superpower if we get access to the sea

How would you get access to the sea where turkey is opposing you? Also, does the map of kurdistan genuinely end in the Mediterranean sea? I doubt it.

This is really important guys, we dont want to be fooled by false statements. If it is true, then it is more important than Kirkuk.

[Kurdistano]

they also know we will become a regional superpower if we get access to the sea

How would you get access to the sea where turkey is opposing you? Also, does the map of kurdistan genuinely end in the Mediterranean sea? I doubt it.

This is really important guys, we dont want to be fooled by false statements. If it is true, then it is more important than Kirkuk.

If the Kurdistan part under Turkish rule is given autonomy to Kurds by diplomacy and through dialogue, than their will be no need for a corridor to the Mediterranean as there will be no reason to close the borders. But if Kurdistan will be taken by force (What is the smaller possibility) than be sure a corridor for Kurds to the Mediterranean will be opened as there is already a large Kurdish population in Antep, Hatay, Mersin (in Adana its probably some 40-50%).

And also in North Latakia the population is more mixed between Kurds and Alawites.


However I think there will be no need for a corridor for Mediterranean because most disputes with Turkey will be handled through dialogue because the other option would possibly lead Nato against us. Thats why I still dont understand the Paranoia of Turkey about a Kurdish state in West Kurdistan while they are technically under Nato protection. We could still managed to get access to Mediterranean through the northern parts of Latakia.

[alan131210]

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