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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:34 pm

Good discussion, the guest Harold Rhode is very knowledgable on this subject.

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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:16 am

HZKurdi wrote:So how come this terrorist supporting phony backstabbing country, Turkey allowed to support a terrorist group and the America hariold rodesstill supports them and even sends them weapons to help them kill our innocent people? The public needs to learn about this.

Government-al-Nusra links exposed
ANF - News Desk 27.09.2013 10:44:55
Kurdistan Center for Strategic Studies, Lekolin, has published a document which allegedly reveal the Turkish government's links with al-Qaeda affiliated al-Nusra Front fighting Kurds in Rojava, West Kurdistan.

The document, a circular letter Interior Minister Muammer Güler sent to the governor of Hatay, is alleged to have been sent to the governors of Mardin, Urfa and Antep as well. It has been published by daily Özgür Gündem today.

The circular letter dated 15 March 2013 is themed “provision of the necessary support to al-Nusra mujahids Turkey backs against the PYD (Democratic Union Party) in line with its regional interests, and their settlement in public social facilities”.

The letter put emphasis on the importance of “providing the required support for al-Nusra mujahids Turkey brings from various countries under the control of the National Intelligence Service (MIT) and has them fight against the separatist organization PKK's wing PYD, ensuring their safety and abiding by the confidentiality of the matter ”.

The Minister's circular letter called attention to Hatay province's strategic importance for enabling the al-Nusra militants' crossing into Syria, and instructed that the delivery of the logistic support to the armed groups, their training and the treatment of their casualties should mainly be arranged in the Hatay province, in line with the coordinated support by MIT and the governor's office in Hatay.

The Minister's letter also underlined that al-Nusra militants sent to Hatay should settle in institutions affiliated to guesthouse of Directorate of Religious Affairs and public guest houses determined by the MIT.

My friend was helping a Syrian Kurd on Saturday. The man used to be a fighter - his family is safe in Kurdistan. He is in England hoping to get support for his people in Syrian. He only speaks Kurdish which is not a good start. Lack of English is one of the main problems - Kurds cannot tell their side of the story.

Everyone seems to be going to Syria to fight. The wants and needs of the average Kurd in Syria is being ignored as they are being so swamped by outside influences and fighters that they themselves are being ignored. One of my friends goes to many international meetings and conferences but he does not get enough support. Other people have to support him and attend such meetings to make people aware of what is happening in Syria.
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Re: Rojava Kurdistan - Kurds Rising

PostAuthor: Shirko » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:50 pm

New clashes in Tal Abyad
ANF - Serêkaniyê 30.09.2013 09:28:51
Clashes broke out between People's Defense Units (YPG) and ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Levant) near the Susik village of Tal Abyad (Girê Spî) province bordering Turkey last night.

Five ISIS members were killed in clashes with YPG fighters who also burnt a vehicle of the groups down and damaged one other.

YPG fighters had liberated the Susik village on 15 September when 81 gang members were killed and some 40 others were wounded and rushed to Turkish hospitals.

The Turkish army had also dispatched weapons to the village in support of the al-Qaeda affiliated armed groups.
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Re: Rojava Kurdistan - Kurds Rising

PostAuthor: Anthea » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:51 pm

HZKurdi wrote:New clashes in Tal Abyad
ANF - Serêkaniyê 30.09.2013 09:28:51
Clashes broke out between People's Defense Units (YPG) and ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Levant) near the Susik village of Tal Abyad (Girê Spî) province bordering Turkey last night.

Five ISIS members were killed in clashes with YPG fighters who also burnt a vehicle of the groups down and damaged one other.

YPG fighters had liberated the Susik village on 15 September when 81 gang members were killed and some 40 others were wounded and rushed to Turkish hospitals.

The Turkish army had also dispatched weapons to the village in support of the al-Qaeda affiliated armed groups.

The Turkish army had also dispatched weapons to the village in support of the al-Qaeda affiliated armed groups.

It seems to me that Turkey is determined to destroy Kurds - I never had any faith in the so-called peace plan in Turkey - Kurds should see the Turkish regime for what it is - people such as Piling and myself have a far greater all round knowledge of what is happening than many Kurds whose knowledge is more localised - and we are not gullible - we do not believe in all the propaganda that is being spread

There is a saying such as "To win a war on the ground you have to first win the propaganda war" something such as that
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Re: Rojava Kurdistan - Kurds Rising

PostAuthor: Shirko » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:24 pm

Yes, and they are trying to create both sectarian and religious wars between the Arabs and Kurds in Rojava and in all of Syria. This is to weaken the Kurds and decrease their cancers of obtaining access to the sea.

Don't forget there are around another 2 million Kurds outside WK in Syria, including the region on the coast, it has a Kurdish presence.

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HZKurdi wrote:New clashes in Tal Abyad
ANF - Serêkaniyê 30.09.2013 09:28:51
Cashes broke out between People's Defense Units (YPG) and ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Levant) near the Susik village of Tal Abyad (Girê Spî) province bordering Turkey last night.

Five ISIS members were killed in clashes with YPG fighters who also burnt a vehicle of the groups down and damaged one other.

YPG fighters had liberated the Susik village on 15 September when 81 gang members were killed and some 40 others were wounded and rushed to Turkish hospitals.

The Turkish army had also dispatched weapons to the village in support of the al-Qaeda affiliated armed groups.

The Turkish army had also dispatched weapons to the village in support of the al-Qaeda affiliated armed groups.

It seems to me that Turkey is determined to destroy Kurds - I never had any faith in the so-called peace plan in Turkey - Kurds should see the Turkish regime for what it is - people such as Piling and myself have a far greater all round knowledge of what is happening than many Kurds whose knowledge is more localised - and we are not gullible - we do not believe in all the propaganda that is being spread

There is a saying such as "To win a war on the ground you have to first win the propaganda war" something such as that
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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:15 pm

New clashes in Rojava
ANF - News Desk 01.10.2013 12:26:27
Clashes between Islamic State of Iraq andthe Levant (ISIS) militants and the People's Defense Units (YPG) guerrillas are continuing.
It has been reported that the People's Defense Units launched an attack in Kela Fuqani using 2 tanks and Doshka weapons.

It is also reported that at least 8 members of the ISIS died and an unspecified number injured.

Clashes are continuing.
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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:16 pm

I agree with Mr. Muslim on this, make a deal with the opposition and cooperate I'd it is beneficial, but join them? Three main blocks in Syria just like Iraq, Assada and his minority and supporters, Sunni Arabs that is the main opposition, and the third block are Kurds.

PYD Leader Skeptical of Kurdish Agreement With Syrian Opposition
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“They asked me why you don’t join. We are fighting on the ground. There are many armed groups attacking us in our Kurdish cities, can you stop them? They said ‘no.’ So why should I deal with you?"


ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – Salih Muslim, head of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) which is the biggest Kurdish party in Syria, was quoted as saying that his group does not support the Kurdish National Council (KNC) joining the Syrian National Coalition (NC).

“I think it’s going to divide the Kurdish people, because there was a decision by the Supreme Kurdish Council not to deal with any side of the opposition without permission,” he said.

The PYD became the biggest Kurdish party in Syria after gaining control of the main nine Kurdish cities in the country in July last year, after the withdrawal of President Bashar Assad’s forces. Moreover, the PYD and other Kurdish parties plan to form an interim civilian administration and organize an election after six months of forming the transitional government.

Recently, the KNC joined the NC, but this is still opposed by the PYD. The Syrian opposition accepted most Kurdish demands, apart from recognizing a form of Kurdish autonomy in Syria.


According to Muslim it is not a problem that the KNC, the rival of the PYD, joins the Syrian coalition; he prefers Kurds to deal with the opposition in a united bloc. “We like all the Kurds to deal together with the opposition, not to join them, but coordinate with them or to have some kind of agreement,” he said. “Because if you join it, you have lost everything,” he added.

Moreover, he pointed out that the Syrian opposition is not homogenous. “There are different ideas, opinions, and ideologically they are not the same.”

The PYD leader has met with leaders of the Syrian opposition in Turkey and Europe. On August 31, Muslim met with the president of the Syrian coalition Ahmad Jarba in Paris.

“They asked me why you don’t join. We are fighting on the ground. There are many armed groups attacking us in our Kurdish cities, can you stop them? They said ‘no.’ So why should I deal with you? They don’t have control of the Free Syrian Army (FSA),” he said.

On July 17, an agreement between armed anti-Assad fighters, and the Kurdish armed groups broke down and fighting spread to three provinces where Kurds live in Syria. Despite internal disagreements between the FSA and groups linked to al-Qaida, both of them fight against Kurdish fighters affiliated to the PYD.

Muslim said the KNC and the NC can do what they like. “But it’s not suitable for Kurds to join.” He thinks that the Western countries pressured the KNC to join the Syrian opposition.

Some experts had predicted that the agreement between the Turkish-backed opposition and the KNC, backed by Kurdish parties in Iraq, would create problems with the PYD in Syria. The PYD leader disagrees.

“We have no problem with the KNC. The KNC and the People’s Council (of West-Kurdistan) have agreed on this transitional civil administration in Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan) and the Kurdish areas in Syria,” he said. “We are going step-by-step forward, but I think their agreement with the National Coalition is going to collapse, many voices don’t accept the Kurds.”

Nevertheless, the Kurdish Democratic Party in Syria (KDP-S), which is supported by Massoud Barzani, the president of the Kurdistan Region of Iraq, accuses the PYD of kidnapping its members in September in Afrin. The KDP-S accused the PYD of torturing a dozen KDP-S members.

A KDP-S member told the Kurdish NGO Kurdwatch, that “PYD releases 10 people, but that same night dozens more are kidnapped.” But according to media close to the PYD, they were involved in planning attacks against the YPG.

But Muslim says they do not have any problems with the Barzani-backed Kurdish party, only with the Kurdish Freedom Party led by Mustafa Cumma that allegedly controls Kurdish armed groups that cooperate with the FSA against the PYD.

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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

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Assad needs to unite with Kurds against Turkey / Lyuba Lulko
Syrian Kurds are in heavy fighting with the rebels of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and the jihadists. The Kurds have long spoken about the need to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad and even fought against government forces. The situation has changed now, much owing to the skillful diplomacy of the Syrian government. For the Kurds, Assad is a lot better than opposition.
At the end of last week, in the course of nearly two days of fighting near the towns of Atma, Jindaris and Hassakeh, the Kurds killed nearly 30 Islamists, including several leaders of jihadists, including Abu Omar al-Chechena (also known as Abu Omar al-Shishani), news agencies said. The Turkish media confirm the information, making references to the "moderate Kurds" from the "National Council of Syrian Kurds" (KNC), the Kurds from the Party of Democratic Union (PYD) as one side of the conflict and "moderate" FSA and Al-Qaeda groups - the already mentioned An- Nusra" and the "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant".
After the leaders of 13 opposition groups rejected the status of the pro-Western government in exile in the face of the National Coalition of the Syrian Opposition and Revolutionary Forces, the prospect to overthrow the Syrian president by internal forces became quite hazy, especially when it became clear that the Kurds were supportive of Assad. Islamists from the FSA and ISIL, seeking to form the Great Caliphate under the patronage of Saudi Arabia, came across the Kurds in Syria, who were preoccupied with ideas about the Great Kurdistan. Turkey is the third party to the conflict - the country dreams of restoring the Great Ottoman Empire. There is a powerful economic base under this political conflict - the oil of Kurdish areas and the control of oil pipelines built from Iran, Iraq and Jordan to Mediterranean ports.
The disparity of forces (Turkey supports Sunnis) pushes the Kurds towards the alliance with al-Assad, who promised them broad autonomy in 2011. "These extremists (from Islamic groups ) are worse than the Assad regime. There is no excuse for their support," Ibrahim Bahzad told Reuters, one of the leaders of the KNC (an alternative to PYD, a wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party). ''Ankara uses these gangs (Islamists) to fight against us, providing them with guns and ammunition. We can prove it; the Turks have cleared the minefield east of Serekaniye, to ensure their safe passage to the border," Salih Muslim, the leader of the PYD told the Turkish newspaper Taraf.
The Syrian government sees an alliance with the Kurds as a priority. Thus, special envoy of Bashar Assad, Omar Ose, visiting Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan in early September, assured the Kurds that it would be much better for them to be friends with Syria.
"The current Syrian government is much better for the Kurds than the opposition. It is in the interest of the Kurds for Assad to remain in power," the Rudaw newspaper quoted Ose as saying. According to him, Turkey supports terrorist groups, not to give the Kurds a chance for self-determination. "He (Assad) asked to let you (the Kurds) know that we are not against you. We are friends, and we are fighting on one side of the front. If Syria is destroyed, then Iran will come next and after Iran - Kurdistan," the official said with reference to Bashar al-Assad.
He also assured the Kurds that the Syrian government would not impede the movement of Iraqi military forces on the territory of Syria, in the event the head of Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, orders to help the Syrian Kurds. “It just needs to be done in a coordinated way" Rudaw quoted Ose as saying.
Indeed, Assad should unite with the Kurds against Turkey. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is ready to help anyone, who wants to destroy his former friend. Turkish officials have repeatedly stated that they were concerned about the close relationship between the PYD and the Kurdistan Workers' Party ( PKK) that fights for Kurdish autonomy in southeastern Turkey. Ankara claimed that Assad armed the PYD and threatened military intervention. Needless to say that the Syrian President is too far from implementing those threats. However, the propaganda of the PKK that used to be banned in Syria, began to spread throughout the Kurdish region; portraits of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who was the jailed in Turkey in 1999, can be seen everywhere.
The Kurds account for about 10 percent of the 23 million-strong Syria. The USSR used to be one of the main pillars of those fighting for the independent Kurdistan. Moscow also relies on the Kurds as one of the most sensible sides to the conflict. The Kremlin insists on their participation in Geneva-2 conference (the meeting of all stakeholders on Syria with the participation of authorities and of Syrian opposition).
The Kurds, unlike other peoples of Syria, are not in a hurry to leave the country, preferring to defend the right to a decent life with guns in their hand.
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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:58 pm

HZKurdi wrote:
Assad needs to unite with Kurds against Turkey / Lyuba Lulko
Syrian Kurds are in heavy fighting with the rebels of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and the jihadists. The Kurds have long spoken about the need to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad and even fought against government forces. The situation has changed now, much owing to the skillful diplomacy of the Syrian government. For the Kurds, Assad is a lot better than opposition.

At the end of last week, in the course of nearly two days of fighting near the towns of Atma, Jindaris and Hassakeh, the Kurds killed nearly 30 Islamists, including several leaders of jihadists, including Abu Omar al-Chechena (also known as Abu Omar al-Shishani), news agencies said. The Turkish media confirm the information, making references to the "moderate Kurds" from the "National Council of Syrian Kurds" (KNC), the Kurds from the Party of Democratic Union (PYD) as one side of the conflict and "moderate" FSA and Al-Qaeda groups - the already mentioned An- Nusra" and the "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant".

After the leaders of 13 opposition groups rejected the status of the pro-Western government in exile in the face of the National Coalition of the Syrian Opposition and Revolutionary Forces, the prospect to overthrow the Syrian president by internal forces became quite hazy, especially when it became clear that the Kurds were supportive of Assad. Islamists from the FSA and ISIL, seeking to form the Great Caliphate under the patronage of Saudi Arabia, came across the Kurds in Syria, who were preoccupied with ideas about the Great Kurdistan. Turkey is the third party to the conflict - the country dreams of restoring the Great Ottoman Empire. There is a powerful economic base under this political conflict - the oil of Kurdish areas and the control of oil pipelines built from Iran, Iraq and Jordan to Mediterranean ports.

The disparity of forces (Turkey supports Sunnis) pushes the Kurds towards the alliance with al-Assad, who promised them broad autonomy in 2011. "These extremists (from Islamic groups ) are worse than the Assad regime. There is no excuse for their support," Ibrahim Bahzad told Reuters, one of the leaders of the KNC (an alternative to PYD, a wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party). ''Ankara uses these gangs (Islamists) to fight against us, providing them with guns and ammunition. We can prove it; the Turks have cleared the minefield east of Serekaniye, to ensure their safe passage to the border," Salih Muslim, the leader of the PYD told the Turkish newspaper Taraf.

The Syrian government sees an alliance with the Kurds as a priority. Thus, special envoy of Bashar Assad, Omar Ose, visiting Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan in early September, assured the Kurds that it would be much better for them to be friends with Syria.

"The current Syrian government is much better for the Kurds than the opposition. It is in the interest of the Kurds for Assad to remain in power," the Rudaw newspaper quoted Ose as saying. According to him, Turkey supports terrorist groups, not to give the Kurds a chance for self-determination. "He (Assad) asked to let you (the Kurds) know that we are not against you. We are friends, and we are fighting on one side of the front. If Syria is destroyed, then Iran will come next and after Iran - Kurdistan," the official said with reference to Bashar al-Assad.

He also assured the Kurds that the Syrian government would not impede the movement of Iraqi military forces on the territory of Syria, in the event the head of Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, orders to help the Syrian Kurds. “It just needs to be done in a coordinated way" Rudaw quoted Ose as saying.

Indeed, Assad should unite with the Kurds against Turkey. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is ready to help anyone, who wants to destroy his former friend. Turkish officials have repeatedly stated that they were concerned about the close relationship between the PYD and the Kurdistan Workers' Party ( PKK) that fights for Kurdish autonomy in southeastern Turkey. Ankara claimed that Assad armed the PYD and threatened military intervention. Needless to say that the Syrian President is too far from implementing those threats. However, the propaganda of the PKK that used to be banned in Syria, began to spread throughout the Kurdish region; portraits of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who was the jailed in Turkey in 1999, can be seen everywhere.

The Kurds account for about 10 percent of the 23 million-strong Syria. The USSR used to be one of the main pillars of those fighting for the independent Kurdistan. Moscow also relies on the Kurds as one of the most sensible sides to the conflict. The Kremlin insists on their participation in Geneva-2 conference (the meeting of all stakeholders on Syria with the participation of authorities and of Syrian opposition).
The Kurds, unlike other peoples of Syria, are not in a hurry to leave the country, preferring to defend the right to a decent life with guns in their hand.
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Food for thought :-?

Syria is in such a mess it is becoming difficult to ascertain exactly who is fighting whom - one thing is certain the Kurds are stuck in the middle with NOBODY to trust X(
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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:29 am

True, it is a mess and none can be fully trusted. So all sides are trying to gain the support of the Kurds, but none will look out for the interests of Kurds. So the Kurds must guarantee their own best interests by helping separate the two waring groups, physically in some areas.

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HZKurdi wrote:
Assad needs to unite with Kurds against Turkey / Lyuba Lulko
Syrian Kurds are in heavy fighting with the rebels of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and the jihadists. The Kurds have long spoken about the need to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad and even fought against government forces. The situation has changed now, much owing to the skillful diplomacy of the Syrian government. For the Kurds, Assad is a lot better than opposition.

At the end of last week, in the course of nearly two days of fighting near the towns of Atma, Jindaris and Hassakeh, the Kurds killed nearly 30 Islamists, including several leaders of jihadists, including Abu Omar al-Chechena (also known as Abu Omar al-Shishani), news agencies said. The Turkish media confirm the information, making references to the "moderate Kurds" from the "National Council of Syrian Kurds" (KNC), the Kurds from the Party of Democratic Union (PYD) as one side of the conflict and "moderate" FSA and Al-Qaeda groups - the already mentioned An- Nusra" and the "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant".

After the leaders of 13 opposition groups rejected the status of the pro-Western government in exile in the face of the National Coalition of the Syrian Opposition and Revolutionary Forces, the prospect to overthrow the Syrian president by internal forces became quite hazy, especially when it became clear that the Kurds were supportive of Assad. Islamists from the FSA and ISIL, seeking to form the Great Caliphate under the patronage of Saudi Arabia, came across the Kurds in Syria, who were preoccupied with ideas about the Great Kurdistan. Turkey is the third party to the conflict - the country dreams of restoring the Great Ottoman Empire. There is a powerful economic base under this political conflict - the oil of Kurdish areas and the control of oil pipelines built from Iran, Iraq and Jordan to Mediterranean ports.

The disparity of forces (Turkey supports Sunnis) pushes the Kurds towards the alliance with al-Assad, who promised them broad autonomy in 2011. "These extremists (from Islamic groups ) are worse than the Assad regime. There is no excuse for their support," Ibrahim Bahzad told Reuters, one of the leaders of the KNC (an alternative to PYD, a wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party). ''Ankara uses these gangs (Islamists) to fight against us, providing them with guns and ammunition. We can prove it; the Turks have cleared the minefield east of Serekaniye, to ensure their safe passage to the border," Salih Muslim, the leader of the PYD told the Turkish newspaper Taraf.

The Syrian government sees an alliance with the Kurds as a priority. Thus, special envoy of Bashar Assad, Omar Ose, visiting Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan in early September, assured the Kurds that it would be much better for them to be friends with Syria.

"The current Syrian government is much better for the Kurds than the opposition. It is in the interest of the Kurds for Assad to remain in power," the Rudaw newspaper quoted Ose as saying. According to him, Turkey supports terrorist groups, not to give the Kurds a chance for self-determination. "He (Assad) asked to let you (the Kurds) know that we are not against you. We are friends, and we are fighting on one side of the front. If Syria is destroyed, then Iran will come next and after Iran - Kurdistan," the official said with reference to Bashar al-Assad.

He also assured the Kurds that the Syrian government would not impede the movement of Iraqi military forces on the territory of Syria, in the event the head of Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, orders to help the Syrian Kurds. “It just needs to be done in a coordinated way" Rudaw quoted Ose as saying.

Indeed, Assad should unite with the Kurds against Turkey. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is ready to help anyone, who wants to destroy his former friend. Turkish officials have repeatedly stated that they were concerned about the close relationship between the PYD and the Kurdistan Workers' Party ( PKK) that fights for Kurdish autonomy in southeastern Turkey. Ankara claimed that Assad armed the PYD and threatened military intervention. Needless to say that the Syrian President is too far from implementing those threats. However, the propaganda of the PKK that used to be banned in Syria, began to spread throughout the Kurdish region; portraits of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan, who was the jailed in Turkey in 1999, can be seen everywhere.

The Kurds account for about 10 percent of the 23 million-strong Syria. The USSR used to be one of the main pillars of those fighting for the independent Kurdistan. Moscow also relies on the Kurds as one of the most sensible sides to the conflict. The Kremlin insists on their participation in Geneva-2 conference (the meeting of all stakeholders on Syria with the participation of authorities and of Syrian opposition).
The Kurds, unlike other peoples of Syria, are not in a hurry to leave the country, preferring to defend the right to a decent life with guns in their hand.
The Pravda

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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:06 pm

IHD delegation to Rojava
ANF - Diyarbakır/Amed 05.10.2013 13:15:00
Turkey's embargo on Rojava still continues as fierce clashes between Kurds and al-Qaeda linked armed groups are going on in West Kurdistan.

Human Rights Association (IHD) headquarters will send a delegation to Rojava border to examine the situation at the border and the situation of the people due to the ongoing embargo. The delegation will prepare a report and release it to public after the examinations.

The delegation is made up of International Federation for Human Rights President Yusuf Alataş, IHD President Öztürk Tandoğan, Vice President lawyer Serdar Çelebi, central executive board member Sevim Salihoğlu, regional representative Şevket Akdemir and Diyarbakır Branch Chair Raci Bilici.

The delegation will make its first examinations at the border gate between Mardin's Nusaybin district and the Qamişlo city in West Kurdistan. Following three days of observation, the delegation will have a meeting with Erdal Ata, governor of Antep in charge of borders.

The delegation will carry out an inspection about the difficulties faced during the transportation of aid materials to Rojava, the reason behind the ongoing closure of border gates, Turkey's relation with and support to the al-Qaeda linked gang groups fighting against Kurds in West Kurdistan.

Giving information about the works of the delegation, IHD Diyarbakır Branch Chair Raci bilici said they aimed to make an objective examination about the situation in Rojava and the troubles caused by the closure of border gates, and to bring their report to the public attention. Bilici said they would share the report with relevant bodies of the government as well.
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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:03 pm

Iran to open office in Syria Kurdish city, daily claims
Turkey daily of Taraf claimed the Islamic Republic of Iran will open on representative office in the Syrian northern Kurdish city of Qamishlo.
Releasing a report on its first page with a picture of Iranian president Hassan Rouhani, the daily said Iran will open the office in 2014.
Syria Pro- Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) leader Salih Muslim’s visit to Tehran was in line with opening the office.
The report added Iran will open the office provided that Syria present government, led by president Bashar al-Assad, remains in office.

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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:53 am

YPG responses to the report of Independent International Commission
ANF - NEWS DESK 05.10.2013 12:41:12
General Command of the Peoples’ Protection Units (YPG) has released a statement addressing to the Independent International Commission of Inquiry into Syrian affairs and the Human Rights Council, at the United Nations.

YPG said that the statement was aimed at drawing attention to some notes to help shed more light on some facts from YPG's point of view in response to the report of the International Independent Investigation Commission into the Syrian Arab Republic distributed on 16 August 2013, and its contents of allegations and accusations against the YPG.

The statement- signed by Redur Xelil, Spokesperson of YPG, said YPG affirmed that what is contained in the Commission's report about the acts and performance of YPG lacked accuracy as far as its data, information and results.

Referring to the issue of recruitment of children under the legal age within the ranks of YPG, YPG said clearly that it is unacceptable for anyone under the legal age to join in the ranks of the YPG and it is prohibited by the principles upon which these units have been built, and also against the rules of its Constitution and the foundations which are the basis upon which volunteers join up. YPG said this meant that recruitment of children under the legal age is rejected completely and in principle; the rules and regulations in force in this area prohibit any such action, and there are clear peremptory decisions taken at official meetings of these units and its conferences preventing such practices, and to confirm the penalties for any offenders.

"All this did not prevent the emergence of such things and a few who are under the legal age did join on a voluntary basis under the pressure of circumstances, and through the neglect of some, although they were not allowed to participate in military operations or to stay near active battle", YPG said and emphasized that whatever breaches have occurred in this area was no more than actions of individuals. It was not from the system, or the organization, and was not in any way predetermined, because this conflicts with the internal rules and regulations that relate to the mechanisms for accepting volunteers among the units, or with the general principles on which they have been established.

YPG added to this their full commitment to the International Bill of Human Rights and Geneva Conventions for the treatment of prisoners and civilians, and international covenants and instruments and related protocols, which have been adopted in letter and spirit by the General Command of YPG. "Accordingly, we have insisted for a while that this matter be regulated to prevent it from happening, and to care for this critical segment, to keep them away from the war and secure the greatest possible chance for a long and healthy life", YPG said.

In response to the report speaking about the use of unbalanced force in Amude against some protesters that led to the deaths of a number of people, including children, YPG outlined the details of the circumstances of the incidents and the details to make sure that the Commission is fully aware of what happened.

"We agreed and announced our readiness as YPG to facilitate the task of the Investigation Committee about Amude, which was approved by the Kurdish Supreme Committee. We have videos, photos and documents confirming that what happened was a planned conspiracy in which armed individuals with medium-sized weapons participated in the demonstration, and did not hesitate to direct their weapons at YPG cars returning from combat missions in the outskirts of Hasakah", YPG underlined.

Remarking that Sabri Gulo from YPG was killed by the attackers after being shot and another two fighters were injured in the same incident, YPG said their investigations following the event confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt that the event was premeditated, and declared readiness to provide all the evidence and proof in their possession for the Committee.

YPG confirmed that the convoy of YPG cars suddenly came under fire which pushed the fighters to use unregulated, uncontrolled and excessive responses. As a result, an investigation was then opened into the incident including the use of weapons without permission or order, which held accountable those who were negligent and those who were abusive according to the rules of their procedure regulations.

Also responding to the accusations against YPG fighters that they arrested a woman at a demonstration in March; that they arrested activists and hit protesters; and that detainees were subjected to inhuman treatment, beatings and the like; and rumors about the existence of ready-made prisons near Afrin, YPG said in this context, they could only make their position clear in relation to these issues. "In the general organization of the areas where we were, our mission is specifically to protect the region against attacking forces whatever the identity of the attacker. We have no relationship with the actions above either closely or at a distance; such actions are considered to be the role of internal security, called Asayish. It is notable that the both the YPG and Asayish are separate organizations that are independent of each other, although each is linked to the Kurdish Supreme Committee", YPG underlined.

On the other hand, -YPG said- we inform you with respect to the report, it did not mention the grievances and gross violations of human rights and arbitrary arrests, indiscriminate and enforced disappearances, crimes against humanity and war crimes committed against the Kurdish people in Syria by the regime and armed groups of the resistance, in particular, the calls for ethnic cleansing and bloodshed of Kurds and abuse by terrorist groups linked to al-Qaeda, such as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusta and Free Syrian Army brigades who are co-operating with them. YPG underlined that these terrorist groups have been killing and abducting Kurdish civilians and displacing them from their towns and villages, looting their property and possessions, blowing up their homes and places of work as was the case in the city of Tel-Abyad, and the towns Tel-Hasel, Tel-Aran and other Kurdish villages and towns; and have carried out terrorist operations such as booby-trapped cars and other mechanical vehicles at the checkpoints. These activities have taken many civilian and military lives.

YPG also drew the Commission's attention to the fact that its report did not mention the financial and military support given to these terrorist groups by some of the countries in the region that are hostile to the Kurdish people and their issues, who allow their lands to be used by these groups which make their bases there, and create safe corridors for transit in order to perform offensive operations and indiscriminate shelling of cities and towns in Western Kurdistan from outside and inside the Syrian border, in order to destabilize security and impose foreign agendas.

YPG said it was a national legitimate, multi-ethnic and multi-nationality military institution of sons and daughters of the components of the region, the Kurds, Arabs, Syrians, Assyrians, Turkoman and Armenians, who adopt the right of legitimate self-defence in accordance with international laws. "YPG’s mission is to protect Western Kurdistan and all its ethnic, national, and religious components, and to provide security and safety to citizens wherever they are; to deter any military force aimed at de-stabilizing civil peace and stability; it pledges to defend the gains and the values of freedom and social democracy, and the legitimate aspirations of the Kurdish and Syrian people in their revolution against dictatorship and the forces of terror and darkness", it highlighted.

The General Command of YPG said they accordingly send an invitation to the International Independent Investigation Commission of the Syrian Arab Republic to come to Western Kurdistan and the areas under the control of our forces to investigate the facts in relation to the allegations and accusations in your report to lift any doubt.

YPG in turn called also on the Human Rights Council at the United Nations to send the Rapporteurs of the relevant Committees of Human Rights and those responsible for dealing with relevant parties, to witness a pledge by YPG to bide by the contents of the International Bill of Human Rights and the Geneva Convention for the Prisoners of War and Protection of Civilians, and the Convention on the Non-Applicability of Statutory Limitations to War Crimes, and Crimes Against Humanity, and to agreements to prohibit the use of internationally prohibited weapons and all relevant protocols.

YPG added that they had an open door for all regional and international observers, human rights organizations and civil society institutions to monitor and conduct necessary investigations.




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Re: Rojava Rising - Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Shirko » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:24 am

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