KRG - Sliced off areas (disputed areas)

Posted:
Fri May 13, 2011 4:50 pm
Author: alan131210
Article 140 , is an article in the Iraqi constitution , which is a road map to solve the disputed areas between Erbil and Baghdad with majority Kurds on their ancestral lands.the article consists of 3 phases:1. Normalization (compensation and returning land to original owners , Kurds & Turkmen) - almost complete
2. Census (related to all iraq) - not implemented
3. Referendum (will decide which side the people of Kirkuk will want to choose to be with) - not implemented
http://www.kncna.org/docs/pdf_files/oleary_paper.pdfhttp://www.kurd.org/doc/OLeary_SLIDES.pdf
Re: Iraq: Committee formed to implement Article 140

Posted:
Sun May 15, 2011 4:35 pm
Author: alan131210
140 committee has canceled 6550 agricultural contracts for the Arab settlers and 3300 of the settlers will be compensated in few weeks , the head of kerkuk office committee said this almost brings us to the edge of 1st stage of article 140.
KERKUK IS KURDISTANI

Posted:
Sun May 15, 2011 5:13 pm
Author: alan131210
1921, the British estimated the population of the Kirkuk region to be 75,000 Kurds, 35,000 Turkomans, 10,000 Arabs, 1,400 Jews, and 600 Chaldeans. A League of Nations Committee that visited the Mosul vilayet in 1925 estimated that the Kurds comprised 63 percent of Kirkuk's population, the Turkomans, 19 percent, and the Arabs, 18 percent.
After the Baath party consolidated power in 1963, the National Guard (al-Haras al-Qawmi), recruited Arab Baathists and Turkomans who systematically attacked ethnic Kurds. Between 1963 and 1988, the Baathist regime destroyed 779 Kurdish villages in the Kirkuk region razing 493 primary schools, 598 mosques, and 40 medical clinics.[10] In order to prevent the return of the Kurds, they burned farms and orchards, confiscated cattle, blew up wells, and obliterated cemeteries. In all, this ethnic cleansing campaign forced 37,726 Kurdish families out of their villages. Given the average rural Kurdish family size of between five and seven people, this policy forced over 200,000 Kurds to flee the region. The Kurds were not the regime's only victims. During the Iran-Iraq war, the central government destroyed about ten Shiite Turkoman villages south of Kirkuk.
The last ethnic-breakdown census in Iraq was conducted in 1957, well before Saddam began his program to move Arabs to Kirkuk. That count showed 178,000 Kurds, 48,000 Turkomen, 43,000 Arabs and 10,000 Assyrian-Chaldean Christians living in the province.
more cheques given to returned kurds article 140

Posted:
Mon May 16, 2011 2:02 pm
Author: alan131210
Omer xarib Knew 16/5/2011 the 140 committee office in kerkuk gave out 600 cheques to Kurdish returned families this week , and in a new future 100 more will be given to the "Arab farmers" now returned to Baghdad.
http://www.knwe.org/DirejeHewal.aspx?Ji ... Besh=Hewal
all the land agreements have been cancelled to arab settlers

Posted:
Tue May 17, 2011 5:40 pm
Author: alan131210
تهواوی گرێبهستی زهوییه زهوت كراوهكانی كشتووكاڵیى كهركوك ههڵوهشێندرانهوه
سهرجهم زهوییه زهوت كراوهكانی جووتیارانی كورد و توركمان لهسنووری پارێزگای كهركوك كه رووبهرهكهی پتر لهملیۆنێك دۆنمه، گرێبهستهكانیان لهگهڵ جووتیاره عهرهبه هاوردهكان ههڵوهشێندراوهتهوهو هیچ بڕیارێكیش نییه بۆ ئهوهی زهویی دیكه بهو عهرهبانه بدرێت.
لهمبارهیه بهڕێوهبهری كشتووكاڵی پارێزگای كهركوك، (مههدی موبارهك) ئهمڕۆ سێشهممه (17ی ئایار / مایۆ 2011) تایبهت بۆ ئاژانسی ههواڵی پهیامنێر وتی: لهدوای 1975ـهوه كه شاری كهركوك تووشی شاڵاوی بهعهرهب كردن بوو، نزیكهی ملیۆنێك 200 ههزار دۆنم زهوی كشتووكاڵ بهبڕیارهكانی سهركردایهتی حزبی بهعس و لیژنه كاروباری باكوور لهجووتیاره كورد و توركمانهكانی شارهكه زهوتكران و دوای گواستنهوهی خاوهندارێتیان بۆ چهند وهزارتێك، پاشان بهشێوهی گرێبهست بهسهر عهرهبی هاوردهیان دابهشكران.
موبارهك دهڵێت: ئهو زهوییه زهوتكراوانه بهوجۆرهی لهلایهن بهڕێوهبهرایهتی كشتووكاڵی كهركوك تۆماركراون لهچوارچێوهی پێنج ههزار و 676 گرێبهست بهسهر خهڵكی عهرهبی هاورده دابهشكراون، بهڵام لهچوارچێوهی جێبهجێكردنی مادهی 140ی دهستووری ههمیشهیی عێراق كه پهیوهسته بهناوچه دابڕێندراوهكان، بهپێی بڕیاری لیژنه باڵای جێبهجێكردنی مادهی 140 ژماره چوار بڕگه ئهلف، سهرجهم ئهو گرێبهستانهی مهبهستی گۆڕینی دیمۆگرافیای كهركوك ئهنجامدرابوون، ههر ههموویان ههڵوهشێندرانهوه.
بهپێی لێدوانهكهی بهڕێوهبهری كشتووكاڵی كهركوك لهقۆناغی یهكهمی ههڵوهشاندنهوهی گرێبهستهكان، ئێستا ئهو زهوییه كشتووكاڵییهكان گهڕاندراونهتهوه سهر ناوی وهزارهتهكان و لهههنداوێكی دیكهدا مافی خاوهندارێتیان بۆ خاوهنه راستهقینهكانیان كه جووتیارانی كورد و توركمانن، دهگهڕێندرێتهوهو بههیچ شێوهیهكیش لهبڕیارهكهدا رهچاوی ئهوه نهكراوه تا لهشاری كهركوك زهویی دیكهی كشتووكاڵی بهو عهرهبانه بدرێت.
مههدی موبارهك وتیشی: لیژنه باڵای جێبهجێكردنی مادهی 140، لیژنهیهكی تایبهت بۆ قهرهبوو كردنهوهی ئهو جووتیاره عهرهبانه پێكهێناوه تهنها بۆ ئهوانهی كه لهسهر ئهو زهوییانهی بهگرێبهست وهریانگرتووهو بیری ئاویانت لێداوه، یا خانوویان دروست كردووه، یان رهزیان داچاندووه، بهپێی پڕكردنهوهی فۆڕمی تایبهت قهرهبوویان بكهنهوه، تاوهكو هیچ مافێكی یاساییان لهسهر زهوییه گهڕێندراوهكان نهمێنێت.
ههروهها ئاماژهیدا كه تاوهكو ئێستا نزیكهی سێ ههزار و 360 جووتیاری عهرهب بهمهبهستی قهرهبووكردنهوهیان، فۆڕمیان پڕكردۆتهوه.
http://www.peyamner.com/details.aspx?l=1&id=234304
ABOUT FREAKING TIME

TIME TO GO HOME ARAB SETTLERS

Re: Iraq: Committee formed to implement Article 140

Posted:
Tue May 17, 2011 11:12 pm
Author: Zert
This is all very interesting, and very good.
Perhaps finally, they will hold the referendum and we will regain Kerkuk, and offcourse the other 'disputed' territories.
Re: Iraq: Committee formed to implement Article 140

Posted:
Wed May 18, 2011 3:24 am
Author: talsor
I do not mean to burst anyones bubbles , but frankly if anyone think that kerkuk issue is going to be resolved through referendum or diplomancy is badly mistaken . Artical 140 was put in place to give Iraq time to gather it's strength and nothing more . Kerkuk will only be part of kurdistan through the barrel of gun , mass deportation of arabs ,and a heavy handed policy which frankly KRG does not have the stomach for . They are too busy counting money and keeping a clean sheet to show the world how civilized Kurds are .
Re: Iraq: Committee formed to implement Article 140

Posted:
Wed May 18, 2011 9:46 am
Author: New Corduene
talsor wrote:I do not mean to burst anyones bubbles , but frankly if anyone think that kerkuk issue is going to be resolved through referendum or diplomancy is badly mistaken . Artical 140 was put in place to give Iraq time to gather it's strength and nothing more . Kerkuk will only be part of kurdistan through the barrel of gun , mass deportation of arabs ,and a heavy handed policy which frankly KRG does not have the stomach for . They are too busy counting money and keeping a clean sheet to show the world how civilized Kurds are .
To some extent, I agree.
The Kurds are in a cross-road; The Arabs are not willing to give even 1 meter back to the Kurds. The Turkmen are the proxies of the Turks being used for Anti-Kurdish reasons only. Assyrians don't trust Kurds one bit and would not hesitate to put all their problems on Kurds and have strong
Iraqi sentiments. the foreign powers' (the U.S)'s interest is in a self-ruled Kirkuk, which is what they are pushing for so that they can get the most out of its natural wealth. The Kurds are stranded completely, and one can say, have done nothing or have never pushed seriously to achieve their goals.
Recently, Dr. Mahmood Othman, an independent Kurdish MP in Baghdad, reiterated on that fact and put the biggest share of the blame on the Kurdish parties for not having a united and efficient approach towards the issue, he said that the Kurds have not even held one meeting amongst themselves to discuss the issue and the ways to resolve it.
Not to mention that Kurds don't have the firepower to take it by force, and such move will backfire with Turkey, alongside the whole international community accusing the Kurds of forcing their way into Kirkuk.
Now, things are in a stalemate. And Kurds need to seriously reconsider their options and determine their path on how to get Kirkuk, an ancient Kurdish city, back.

Posted:
Wed May 18, 2011 10:40 am
Author: alan131210
kerkuk been a kurdish city and in iraq gives no chance to turkey to talk about it , israel takes land outside its territory and the international community accepts it why not for kurds ? i say KRG to take kerkuk by force and forget what US wants , the the 140 is going in the right direction and according to this land agreement cancellation it brings the article to its 1st phase. and peshemrga actually took it by force 2 months ago but US asked to withdraw so i say let these fuckers get out instead of stay we will deal with kerkuk ourselves. and a census then followed by a referendum will determine the fate of the city n o US or turkey can then stuck there nose in it.
and saying KRG has not done anything for kerkuk its wrong , KRG invented artivcle 140 , Masoud barzani invited maliki and allawi in KDP anniversary and told them "kerkuk is non negotiable" and also the iraqi government was formed based on having the article to be implemented in 2 years , which we are seeing its witnessing great progress now and the 1st stage is sitting on the edge after "all land agreements (by Saddam) have been cancelled" in kerkuk , next is census followed by a referendum.
can someone translate this

Posted:
Fri May 20, 2011 5:49 pm
Author: alan131210
Re: can someone translate this

Posted:
Fri May 20, 2011 6:09 pm
Author: Kulka
i would do that, but my kurdish sucks more than your english

- no, its not funny
