History: Kurds - Iraq - Aryans - Turks

[Amanc]

can somebody ban that turk please? dont we have better to do then discussing with such ppl? its a waste of time.

[Rizgaraso]

turkish propoganda??!! its facts i didnt made it up..it really turkmen in begining..today its a city with turkmne and kurd inhabitants...

bak to the topic!

what the ... u r talking about man?!!
Turkmens first arrived in Kirkuk in 1638, while the city is more than 5 thousands years old!!

[Diri]

Cazyun... You are starting to sound MORE and MORE like a Turk...

And you intentionatly start fights and incite...

What are you anyway? If you are Kurdish - then why do you speak like a TURK? And if you are a TURK, then why are you ashamed of it?

[cazyun]

diri i am half turkmen and kurd my strongest side is kurdish of course..no difference betwen these people..so pleaze dont call bad things

i just said facts about the city i dont want to sound anti-kurdish..thats not why i am here... and i m not from kerkuk..not prokerkuk

armanc get a life its not a war zone over here

[cazyun]

armanc pkk needs you right now you shuld hurry yp before the bus leaves

[Amanc]

TIRYUN spell my name correctly please. You seem to know alot about me and my political views kurê min xwe tora neke ez hevalê te me

[Parsi]

turkish propoganda??!! its facts i didnt made it up..it really turkmen in begining..today its a city with turkmne and kurd inhabitants...

bak to the topic!

How is the city Turkaman when it was built by the Hurrain civilization??

You want a Turkaman city go back to Ashgabat

[cazyun]

amanc terorist dont flipp chill out

kerkuk is turkmen city..do you guys really think KRG wants it to care about the inhabitants `they want the oil..if kurdish has autonomus area why cant tukmeens hav it to? ''

http://www.kerkuk.net/tr/..%5Chaberfoto ... si_001.jpg

take look at the map its sort of..many cities i north including erbil also

anyway back to topic...

[Rizgaraso]

amanc terorist dont flipp chill out

kerkuk is turkmen city..do you guys really think KRG wants it to care about the inhabitants `they want the oil..if kurdish has autonomus area why cant tukmeens hav it to? ''

http://www.kerkuk.net/tr/..%5Chaberfoto ... si_001.jpg

take look at the map its sort of..many cities i north including erbil also

anyway back to topic...

Central Asian Turkmen oglu,

turkmen first arrived in 1638 to oppress Kurdish revolts against ottomans. you cannot distort history. Kirkuk was not built at that time. it was founded 5 thousands years ago, by lullubi tribe of Qurtie people, or as in English Hurrians.
Moreover, the map u provided is in no way correct. Turkmen are a very very very small minority in this regions. in the city of Kirkuk itself, where turkmens claim have teir largest community there, they only form less than 10 % of population. Arabs one third and Kurds about 63%. the rest is other smaller communities. so what the hell Kirkuk is a central asian city??

Besides this, the province (and not only the city) has a much larger Kurdish percent.

Forget Kirkuk, and tell me do u have ever heard about Ulaanbaatar?

[cazyun]

whole iraq is kurdish satisfied even bagdad is kurdish everything is kurdish , even middleeast is kurdish:lol:

you cannot definate city like kurdish becuase of historic empires its just like to say sure then whole middleeast is turkish if you look at the turkish empires.. dont be silly rizgarasso

hahahah sure the oil is even kurdish did you know hitties was not aryan? and how come the medes is also anchestor of kurds if they was aryan? correct me if i am wrong i am confused

searh the root before talking history bro

[Rizgaraso]

whole iraq is kurdish satisfied even bagdad is kurdish everything is kurdish , even middleeast is kurdish:lol:

you cannot definate city like kurdish becuase of historic empires its just like to say sure then whole middleeast is turkish if you look at the turkish empires.. dont be silly rizgarasso

hahahah sure the oil is even kurdish did you know hitties was not aryan? and how come the medes is also anchestor of kurds if they was aryan? correct me if i am wrong i am confused

searh the root before talking history bro

Yes Baghdad was a Kurdish/Iranian city just before Arab's invasion. The name Bagdad means ' gift of God. The Sassanid capital ''Ctesiphon'' itself was just a few kilometres away from modern Bagdad.

Hittites were Arian, ignorant turkic oglu. for your information Hittites have the first Arian documents. There are no Hittite documents which are younger than 3000 years old. After them we got Mittanis in 16th centuries BC. the Aryan Mittanis, who ruled exactly what is today Kurdistan. After them we have great Iranic empires, the medes, the Achaemenids, the Parthians, and the Sassanids. The Mittanis, Medes and parthians are closer to Kurds even than to Persians.
Turks are strangers to western Asia. Turkic people do not belong to these lands. When Arian people were building cities and civilaztions thousands of years BC, turkic people still had not split from Mongols. It was only in 6th or 7th century AD that Chinese refered to a branch of western mongols as ''Tue Cheh'' meaning ''savage''. These Tue cheh tribes were in every aspect savage and without any knowledge or manner. It was in centuries that followed that this Tue cheh became turks when they were driven by their eastern Mongol cousins to western Asia. So dont make us laugh by your turkic empire mempires. Turks are naive. Arians lived thousands of years before even turkic people existed on this planet.

[dyaoko]

thanks rizgar , useful information, bag dad , is a simple Iranian word as u said.

whole iraq is kurdish satisfied even bagdad is kurdish everything is kurdish , even middleeast is kurdish:lol:
)

it is you turks who claim everything and everybody is turk. including god and Mohammad , Kurds and animals (for example that fox in kurdistan who turks renamed to turk...).
it is not in Kurdish pride to call everybody Kurd, our ancestors hated to do that... they even refused to promote zoroasterian relligion to other nations...

Kurds are a pretty defensive nation without desire to attack others and assimulate them.

warning. if u dont go back to topic's subject I have to ban you .

[Parsi]

whole iraq is kurdish satisfied even bagdad is kurdish everything is kurdish , even middleeast is kurdish:lol:

you cannot definate city like kurdish becuase of historic empires its just like to say sure then whole middleeast is turkish if you look at the turkish empires.. dont be silly rizgarasso

hahahah sure the oil is even kurdish did you know hitties was not aryan? and how come the medes is also anchestor of kurds if they was aryan? correct me if i am wrong i am confused

searh the root before talking history bro

Yes Baghdad was a Kurdish/Iranian city just before Arab's invasion. The name Bagdad means ' gift of God. The Sassanid capital ''Ctesiphon'' itself was just a few kilometres away from modern Bagdad.

Hittites were Arian, ignorant turkic oglu. for your information Hittites have the first Arian documents. There are no Hittite documents which are younger than 3000 years old. After them we got Mittanis in 16th centuries BC. the Aryan Mittanis, who ruled exactly what is today Kurdistan. After them we have great Iranic empires, the medes, the Achaemenids, the Parthians, and the Sassanids. The Mittanis, Medes and parthians are closer to Kurds even than to Persians.
Turks are strangers to western Asia. Turkic people do not belong to these lands. When Arian people were building cities and civilaztions thousands of years BC, turkic people still had not split from Mongols. It was only in 6th or 7th century AD that Chinese refered to a branch of western mongols as ''Tue Cheh'' meaning ''savage''. These Tue cheh tribes were in every aspect savage and without any knowledge or manner. It was in centuries that followed that this Tue cheh became turks when they were driven by their eastern Mongol cousins to western Asia. So dont make us laugh by your turkic empire mempires. Turks are naive. Arians lived thousands of years before even turkic people existed on this planet.

Hettites were Indo-European but I don't believe they were from the Aryan branch as the Medes Persians and Parthians were...they were in the Middle East looong before Aryan migration to the Iranian Plateu...

But yes - Turkic people are newer to the area and shouldn't claim things, cultures, and people as their own.

[Rizgaraso]

whole iraq is kurdish satisfied even bagdad is kurdish everything is kurdish , even middleeast is kurdish:lol:

you cannot definate city like kurdish becuase of historic empires its just like to say sure then whole middleeast is turkish if you look at the turkish empires.. dont be silly rizgarasso

hahahah sure the oil is even kurdish did you know hitties was not aryan? and how come the medes is also anchestor of kurds if they was aryan? correct me if i am wrong i am confused

searh the root before talking history bro

Yes Baghdad was a Kurdish/Iranian city just before Arab's invasion. The name Bagdad means ' gift of God. The Sassanid capital ''Ctesiphon'' itself was just a few kilometres away from modern Bagdad.

Hittites were Arian, ignorant turkic oglu. for your information Hittites have the first Arian documents. There are no Hittite documents which are younger than 3000 years old. After them we got Mittanis in 16th centuries BC. the Aryan Mittanis, who ruled exactly what is today Kurdistan. After them we have great Iranic empires, the medes, the Achaemenids, the Parthians, and the Sassanids. The Mittanis, Medes and parthians are closer to Kurds even than to Persians.
Turks are strangers to western Asia. Turkic people do not belong to these lands. When Arian people were building cities and civilaztions thousands of years BC, turkic people still had not split from Mongols. It was only in 6th or 7th century AD that Chinese refered to a branch of western mongols as ''Tue Cheh'' meaning ''savage''. These Tue cheh tribes were in every aspect savage and without any knowledge or manner. It was in centuries that followed that this Tue cheh became turks when they were driven by their eastern Mongol cousins to western Asia. So dont make us laugh by your turkic empire mempires. Turks are naive. Arians lived thousands of years before even turkic people existed on this planet.

Hettites were Indo-European but I don't believe they were from the Aryan branch as the Medes Persians and Parthians were...they were in the Middle East looong before Aryan migration to the Iranian Plateu...

But yes - Turkic people are newer to the area and shouldn't claim things, cultures, and people as their own.

Sometimes Arian is used for non-Indo-Iranic Indo-Europeans too. That's why I used the word Arian for them.

[Parsi]

whole iraq is kurdish satisfied even bagdad is kurdish everything is kurdish , even middleeast is kurdish:lol:

you cannot definate city like kurdish becuase of historic empires its just like to say sure then whole middleeast is turkish if you look at the turkish empires.. dont be silly rizgarasso

hahahah sure the oil is even kurdish did you know hitties was not aryan? and how come the medes is also anchestor of kurds if they was aryan? correct me if i am wrong i am confused

searh the root before talking history bro

Yes Baghdad was a Kurdish/Iranian city just before Arab's invasion. The name Bagdad means ' gift of God. The Sassanid capital ''Ctesiphon'' itself was just a few kilometres away from modern Bagdad.

Hittites were Arian, ignorant turkic oglu. for your information Hittites have the first Arian documents. There are no Hittite documents which are younger than 3000 years old. After them we got Mittanis in 16th centuries BC. the Aryan Mittanis, who ruled exactly what is today Kurdistan. After them we have great Iranic empires, the medes, the Achaemenids, the Parthians, and the Sassanids. The Mittanis, Medes and parthians are closer to Kurds even than to Persians.
Turks are strangers to western Asia. Turkic people do not belong to these lands. When Arian people were building cities and civilaztions thousands of years BC, turkic people still had not split from Mongols. It was only in 6th or 7th century AD that Chinese refered to a branch of western mongols as ''Tue Cheh'' meaning ''savage''. These Tue cheh tribes were in every aspect savage and without any knowledge or manner. It was in centuries that followed that this Tue cheh became turks when they were driven by their eastern Mongol cousins to western Asia. So dont make us laugh by your turkic empire mempires. Turks are naive. Arians lived thousands of years before even turkic people existed on this planet.

Hettites were Indo-European but I don't believe they were from the Aryan branch as the Medes Persians and Parthians were...they were in the Middle East looong before Aryan migration to the Iranian Plateu...

But yes - Turkic people are newer to the area and shouldn't claim things, cultures, and people as their own.

Sometimes Arian is used for non-Indo-Iranic Indo-Europeans too. That's why I used the word Arian for them.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up