Kurds 'troubled Greeks' and 'slained Romans' and more!

[New Corduene]

Okay ideas, here are my ideas

1. I would basically agree with the assertion that the Parthians were basically the ancestors of the Kurds. Certainly the Parthians were closer to today's Kurds than today's "Persians".

Utterly false! Parthians hardly have any connection with the Kurds at all.

You do realize that during antiquity, three Aryan races stormed areas around Mesopotamia; Medes, Parthians and Persians.
The Medes, got mixed with the original inhabitants of the area, with the most important being the Hurrians, the original ancestors of Kurds, and added one more layer to the genetic make-up of the Kurds. Hence we can say that Kurds have a Hurro-Median origin.

Parthians on the other hand established their own empire which lasted up until 224 A.D and was then succeeded by the Sassanid Empire, a Persian one. Therefore we can conclude that Parthians and Persians have become mixed into present-day Persians whilst Kurds are distant from them by being the descendants of the Medes and the Hurrians.

[alan131210]

^^ good point bro , i have always said Mede are our most ancestors and they lived in zagros mountain .

[Kulka]

No problem. What I was trying to say was "But comrade, we don't see the book. What's its name?" But in Kurmancî, you say "What's her name?" because "book" is feminine. I was sad when I learned Soranî has no grammatical gender. As far as I understand, Zazaki still has it though, yes? (Please don't break my heart, Zazas)

Kurdish nationalist moment of the day: Even "kitêb" is feminine, even though its masculine in Arabic. Because even in using an Arabic word, Kurds simply refused to care what gender Arabs thought a book was.

I take it as a positive that Sorani doesn't have grammatical gender. And also, in my humble knowledge, out of all the four dialects of Kurdish language, Sorani is the best when it comes to word pronunciation, grammar structure, richness of vocabulary, not to mention it has perfect orthography!

yes, yes, yes! - very positive!!! i think sorani is the most easy, although still difficult like a hell.
i think all dialects/languages of Kurdistan are beutiful and for me all of them are the best

[New Corduene]

yes, yes, yes! - very positive!!! i think sorani is the most easy, although still difficult like a hell.
i think all dialects/languages of Kurdistan are beutiful and for me all of them are the best

Sorani is relatively easier than the other dialects, especially the pronunciation of words. It still can be very difficult for someone like you since your native mother tongue is very different from Kurdish. Yet I have to say, judging by the bits and pieces you write from time to time, you have done a marvelous job! Keep up the good work Miss.

[kurdimemin_diako]

به کوردی بیژه با خاس فیر بیت
(راسی ئه گه ر کامله ن سنه ئی قسه بکه م گشتان حالیتان ئه ویت؟ مه خسوسه ن کولکه خانم !(

[New Corduene]

به کوردی بیژه با خاس فیر بیت
(راسی ئه گه ر کامله ن سنه ئی قسه بکه م گشتان حالیتان ئه ویت؟ مه خسوسه ن کولکه خانم !(

Nice accent! Since you are from Sine, tell me, is your accent closer to that spoken in Mahabad or Kirmashan? In other words, is it mostly Sorani or Hewrami?

I also have several other questions hoping you can answer them; Tell me a bit about the political condition of Kurds in Iran. What is the general perception from Kurds towards Iranian/Persian policies in the country. If they had the option, do Kurds favor independence or do they prefer only some sort of autonomy? Is the view towards independence different from one Kurdish faction to another, for example Kirmashani Kurds to be against independence whilst Kurds from Mahabad to favor it!?

And if you have the time and info, tell me a bit about the Kurds in Khorasan. I hear they are almost completely assimilated and hardly speak any Kurdish, not to mention that they identify themselves as proud Persians. How correct are these claims!?

Thanks for your time.

[kurdimemin_diako]

Nice accent! Since you are from Sine, tell me, is your accent closer to that spoken in Mahabad or Kirmashan? In other words, is it mostly Sorani or Hewrami?

Mehabad is sorani just like Sine . but they(Mehabad) exactly speak like Hewleri people!Meriwan and Bane are Sorani too . and they speak exactly like Suleymani people .
Cuanro , Rewansar and Selas Babecani are Caf (جاف( and it is a kind of Sorani too !
about Hewrami : Pawe is the largest Hewrami City (larger than Helebce )
and Sine is Erdelani . some kind of sorani with a little hewrami mixture in it ! non of other Kurdistan Cities speaks "exactly" like Sine !
BUT kirmashani "WAS" kelhuri , not Hewrami . (and kiramnshah and other Kelhurs are not Kurd anymore .)
ئه یچه ئابا عه زیز

I also have several other questions hoping you can answer them; Tell me a bit about the political condition of Kurds in Iran. What is the general perception from Kurds towards Iranian/Persian policies in the country. If they had the option, do Kurds favor independence or do they prefer only some sort of autonomy? Is the view towards independence different from one Kurdish faction to another, for example Kirmashani Kurds to be against independence whilst Kurds from Mahabad to favor it!?

believe me almost all of Sorani and Hewrami people(Sine , Mehabad,Bukan,Seqiz,Cuanro,Rewansar,Bane,Meriwan,and etc.) want an Independence Kurdistan here .border City is Kamiaran ! (Kelhuri is dead . they even don't want Kurdistan)

And if you have the time and info, tell me a bit about the Kurds in Khorasan. I hear they are almost ccccand hardly speak any Kurdish, not to mention that they identify themselves as proud Persians. How correct are these claims!?

Thanks for your time.

once I had one Kurasani Kurd friend . he always told me (in Persian !!) that I am a Kurd !
yes . they are completely assimilated . they don't speak Kurdish . but I never hate them for that . they had no choise . they are 500 years out of Kurdistan .

[Kulka]

yes, yes, yes! - very positive!!! i think sorani is the most easy, although still difficult like a hell.
i think all dialects/languages of Kurdistan are beutiful and for me all of them are the best

Sorani is relatively easier than the other dialects, especially the pronunciation of words. It still can be very difficult for someone like you since your native mother tongue is very different from Kurdish. Yet I have to say, judging by the bits and pieces you write from time to time, you have done a marvelous job! Keep up the good work Miss.

Well, thats nice opinion - of course i will keep learning - probably till the end of my life (specially if there is not so much left - i am not teenager ).

به کوردی بیژه با خاس فیر بیت
(راسی ئه گه ر کامله ن سنه ئی قسه بکه م گشتان حالیتان ئه ویت؟ مه خسوسه ن کولکه خانم !(

yes, few words i understand - ok, less than few And my dictionary also dont know what is written here.

My brother from Krmashan, who working with me didnt lost his identity. yesterday he was singing in kelhuri

[New Corduene]

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Thank you very much for those information, I appreciate it. . A question though, about what you say...

BUT kirmashani "WAS" kelhuri , not Hewrami . (and kiramnshah and other Kelhurs are not Kurd anymore .), (Kelhuri is dead . they even don't want Kurdistan)

Why is that? And how did you come up with such conclusion? Even if there is some truth to the claim that they don't want independence, surely not all of them have the same attitude!? Kindly give a brief insight about it.

One more question, how do the 'Laki' identify themselves? As Kurds or as Lakis (as if it was a different ethnicity)!? Also the same for the Lurs, do they consider themselves closer to the Kurds or the Persians? And the same question about the Balochi people, since historically Kurds and Balochis have been very close!

[ideas]

The lurs were considered to be Kurds just 100 years ago, however certain groups promoted lur nationalism.. the laki however are Kurds there is no doubt about it, their dialect is almost identical to sorani, just type in laki to you tube and you'll see.

Some kermanshanis are ultra Iranian nationalist as I've seen on some forums and it seems that most of them do prefer to stay in Iran, and even when Qazi Mohammed declared the republic of mahabad they didn't help, although I would not say their all like that, but the majority are.

[New Corduene]

The lurs were considered to be Kurds just 100 years ago, however certain groups promoted lur nationalism.. the laki however are Kurds there is no doubt about it, their dialect is almost identical to sorani, just type in laki to you tube and you'll see.

Some kermanshanis are ultra Iranian nationalist as I've seen on some forums and it seems that most of them do prefer to stay in Iran, and even when Qazi Mohammed declared the republic of mahabad they didn't help, although I would not say their all like that, but the majority are.

Welcome back mate!

I know the history of the Lurs, Lakis, Baloch, and almost all the other Iranian people. Just wanted to know their view of the Kurds nowadays and how they would fit in the overall Kurds' political ambitions.

[ideas]

The lurs were considered to be Kurds just 100 years ago, however certain groups promoted lur nationalism.. the laki however are Kurds there is no doubt about it, their dialect is almost identical to sorani, just type in laki to you tube and you'll see.

Some kermanshanis are ultra Iranian nationalist as I've seen on some forums and it seems that most of them do prefer to stay in Iran, and even when Qazi Mohammed declared the republic of mahabad they didn't help, although I would not say their all like that, but the majority are.

Welcome back mate!

I know the history of the Lurs, Lakis, Baloch, and almost all the other Iranian people. Just wanted to know their view of the Kurds nowadays and how they would fit in the overall Kurds' political ambitions.

I don't know about the Baloch in Iran, but I do know that the baloch in Pakistan are certainly on our side, I've even seem some of them go as far as saying 'let's go back to Kurdistan and help the Kurds' I even saw them protesting for Kurds once, well they protested for Kurds and Baloch, never the less it seems that they can more about us then we do them.

Majority of the laki people consider themselves to be Kurds, however being a Kurd and being a Kurdish nationalist are two different things as demonstrated with the kermanshani.

The lur don't consider themselves as kurds.

[kurdimemin_diako]

yeah . Lurs don't recognize as a Kurd . and Leki is more similar to Luri than Kurdi . But they consider themselves as Kirmashani .

[kurdimemin_diako]

and I know Kirmashani better than all of u . don't argue with me about them

[New Corduene]

and I know Kirmashani better than all of u . don't argue with me about them

You really seem to dislike them Kirmashani people! Don't you?