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PostAuthor: raman82 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:03 pm

I have also noticed a Turanid influence in some Kurds.
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PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:24 am

(old false list)
Last edited by Johny Bravo on Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Last news : Kurds are not Aryan !

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:47 am

I also thought, that Aynur were a Kurmanc. I will ask Baran again.

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Re: Last news : Kurds are not Aryan !

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:16 pm

so, now baran ruciyar corrected the list:

Beser Şahîn < Zaza
Mîkael Aslan < Zaza
Aynur Doxan < Kurmanc
Kahraman family < Zaza
Nilûfer Akbal < Zaza
Sozdar < Kurmanc

Aynur Doxan is Kurmanc from Cemisgezek, Baran Ruciyar is an expert in such topics, he is kurdolog.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:33 pm

Well, you don't need to be a Kurdolog to check people's background (where they are from and which language they speak etc.) - it's information one can find on the net... :wink:

But - that said... So, Aynûr is a Kurmanc lady... Thanks for clearing that up, Johny Bravo! :) Sipas...
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PostAuthor: Jaff Sassani » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:15 am

The Indo-Iranian language group constitutes the easternmost extant branch of the Indo-European family of languages. It consists of four language groups: the Indo-Aryan, Iranian, Nuristani, and Dardic. The term Aryan languages is also used to refer to the Indo-Iranian languages [1]. The speakers of the Proto-Indo-Iranian language, the hypothetical Proto-Indo-Iranians, are usually associated with the late 3rd millennium BC Sintashta-Petrovka culture of Central Asia. Their expansion is believed to have been connected with the invention of the chariot.
The contemporary Indo-Iranian languages form the largest sub-branch of Indo-European, with more than one billion speakers in total, stretching from Europe (Romani) and the Caucasus (Ossetian) to East India (Bengali and Assamese). SIL in a 2005 estimate counts a total of 308 varieties, the largest in terms of native speakers being Hindustani (Hindi and Urdu, ca. 540 million), Bengali (ca. 200 million), Punjabi (ca. 80 million), Marathi and Persian (ca. 70 million each), Gujarati (ca. 45 million), Pashto (40 million), Oriya (ca. 30 million), Kurdish and Sindhi (ca. 20 million each).

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Re: Last news : Kurds are not Aryan !

PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:37 am

That is rubbish...

20 million Kurdish speakers?

Try 40 million...
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PostAuthor: raman82 » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:33 pm

hahahahah no sohrab its 41 million :D
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PostAuthor: Barış » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:59 pm

4 million ethnic Mongols live outside Mongolia, about 3.4 million live in Mongolia. Damn! Kurds breed like rabbits. :lol:
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PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:02 pm

Barış wrote:4 million ethnic Mongols live outside Mongolia, about 3.4 million live in Mongolia. Damn! Kurds breed like rabbits. :lol:



We hardly breed at all compared to Palestinians who went from 4 million in 1995 to 10 million now... :shock:

It's all typical for oppressed peoples - people who feel threatened instinctively breed more to make sure SOME of their off spring survives... And thus they'll be able to pass on their genes/culture etc. to a new generation...

People in the West have few kids because they do not face such problems...

Everywhere, where there is hunger, poverty or oppression, you will find that the average family has 4-7 kids...
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Re: Last news : Kurds are not Aryan !

PostAuthor: Barış » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:12 pm

Diri wrote:
Barış wrote:4 million ethnic Mongols live outside Mongolia, about 3.4 million live in Mongolia. Damn! Kurds breed like rabbits. :lol:



We hardly breed at all compared to Palestinians who went from 4 million in 1995 to 10 million now... :shock:

It's all typical for oppressed peoples - people who feel threatened instinctively breed more to make sure SOME of their off spring survives... And thus they'll be able to pass on their genes/culture etc. to a new generation...

People in the West have few kids because they do not face such problems...

Everywhere, where there is hunger, poverty or oppression, you will find that the average family has 4-7 kids...

Sorry about that. I don't mind, but didn't know that there that many Kurds. Not even nearly as many as those Chinese though. :shock: Mongols need to breed big time! :lol:
I'm curious out of 71 million in Türkiye, how many you think are 100% Kurd?
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Re: Last news : Kurds are not Aryan !

PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:47 pm

Barış wrote:
Diri wrote:
Barış wrote:4 million ethnic Mongols live outside Mongolia, about 3.4 million live in Mongolia. Damn! Kurds breed like rabbits. :lol:



We hardly breed at all compared to Palestinians who went from 4 million in 1995 to 10 million now... :shock:

It's all typical for oppressed peoples - people who feel threatened instinctively breed more to make sure SOME of their off spring survives... And thus they'll be able to pass on their genes/culture etc. to a new generation...

People in the West have few kids because they do not face such problems...

Everywhere, where there is hunger, poverty or oppression, you will find that the average family has 4-7 kids...

Sorry about that. I don't mind, but didn't know that there that many Kurds. Not even nearly as many as those Chinese though. :shock: Mongols need to breed big time! :lol:
I'm curious out of 71 million in Türkiye, how many you think are 100% Kurd?


What do you mean 100% Kurd? Genetically? Culturally?

Genetically - There are no "100%" Kurds, Turks, Arabs or anything else... Save perhaps some inbred Indians somewhere in the Amazonas or Africa...

"Kurd", "Turk" etc. are all just ideas - nationalism...

Culturally - again nobody can claim to be more "Kurdish" or "Turkish" than others - because culture is the result of geographical, social, economical, historical and political etc. factors.

Let me rephrase your question, so that you at least can have an answer to your question: "How many people consider themselves to be "Kurdish" in Turkey?"

The answer: I don't know... But how many do I THINK? Well, again hard to answer - because I haven't talked to every single person in Turkey to make up a number...

But if I should be forced to estimate - I'd say between 17-25 million people in Turkey would say that they're Kurdish - either by saying they are themselves Kurdish or by saying that "my parents are Kurdish" (if you care about genetics)...
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PostAuthor: Barış » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:19 am

Diri wrote:
Barış wrote:
Diri wrote:Sorry about that. I don't mind, but didn't know that there that many Kurds. Not even nearly as many as those Chinese though. :shock: Mongols need to breed big time! :lol:
I'm curious out of 71 million in Türkiye, how many you think are 100% Kurd?


What do you mean 100% Kurd? Genetically? Culturally?

Genetically - There are no "100%" Kurds, Turks, Arabs or anything else... Save perhaps some inbred Indians somewhere in the Amazonas or Africa...

"Kurd", "Turk" etc. are all just ideas - nationalism...

Culturally - again nobody can claim to be more "Kurdish" or "Turkish" than others - because culture is the result of geographical, social, economical, historical and political etc. factors.

Let me rephrase your question, so that you at least can have an answer to your question: "How many people consider themselves to be "Kurdish" in Turkey?"

The answer: I don't know... But how many do I THINK? Well, again hard to answer - because I haven't talked to every single person in Turkey to make up a number...

But if I should be forced to estimate - I'd say between 17-25 million people in Turkey would say that they're Kurdish - either by saying they are themselves Kurdish or by saying that "my parents are Kurdish" (if you care about genetics)...

Okey, thanks. I didn't word that right.
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Re: Last news : Kurds are not Aryan !

PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:32 am

Barış wrote:
Diri wrote:
Barış wrote:
Sorry about that. I don't mind, but didn't know that there that many Kurds. Not even nearly as many as those Chinese though. :shock: Mongols need to breed big time! :lol:
I'm curious out of 71 million in Türkiye, how many you think are 100% Kurd?


What do you mean 100% Kurd? Genetically? Culturally?

Genetically - There are no "100%" Kurds, Turks, Arabs or anything else... Save perhaps some inbred Indians somewhere in the Amazonas or Africa...

"Kurd", "Turk" etc. are all just ideas - nationalism...

Culturally - again nobody can claim to be more "Kurdish" or "Turkish" than others - because culture is the result of geographical, social, economical, historical and political etc. factors.

Let me rephrase your question, so that you at least can have an answer to your question: "How many people consider themselves to be "Kurdish" in Turkey?"

The answer: I don't know... But how many do I THINK? Well, again hard to answer - because I haven't talked to every single person in Turkey to make up a number...

But if I should be forced to estimate - I'd say between 17-25 million people in Turkey would say that they're Kurdish - either by saying they are themselves Kurdish or by saying that "my parents are Kurdish" (if you care about genetics)...

Okey, thanks. I didn't word that right.


And thank you for not doing that... It gave me a chance to reflect on what exactly "100% Kurd" is... :wink:
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Re: Last news : Kurds are not Aryan !

PostAuthor: xosere » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:19 pm

Diri wrote:
Diri wrote:
Barış wrote:
Sorry about that. I don't mind, but didn't know that there that many Kurds. Not even nearly as many as those Chinese though. :shock: Mongols need to breed big time! :lol:
I'm curious out of 71 million in Türkiye, how many you think are 100% Kurd?


What do you mean 100% Kurd? Genetically? Culturally?

Genetically - There are no "100%" Kurds, Turks, Arabs or anything else... Save perhaps some inbred Indians somewhere in the Amazonas or Africa...

"Kurd", "Turk" etc. are all just ideas - nationalism...

Culturally - again nobody can claim to be more "Kurdish" or "Turkish" than others - because culture is the result of geographical, social, economical, historical and political etc. factors.

Let me rephrase your question, so that you at least can have an answer to your question: "How many people consider themselves to be "Kurdish" in Turkey?"

The answer: I don't know... But how many do I THINK? Well, again hard to answer - because I haven't talked to every single person in Turkey to make up a number...

But if I should be forced to estimate - I'd say between 17-25 million people in Turkey would say that they're Kurdish - either by saying they are themselves Kurdish or by saying that "my parents are Kurdish" (if you care about genetics)...



And thank you for not doing that... It gave me a chance to reflect on what exactly "100% Kurd" is... :wink:


And then maybe you nationalist should just fuck-off.

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