Savage Turks murdered Constantinople: Dracula was right

[Anthea]

A Greek scholar recites the last minutes of the last Roman Emperor, Constantine XI, as follows:

"Although he (Constantine XI) clearly saw with his own eyes the danger that threatened the city, and had the opportunity to save himself - as well as many people encouraging him to do so - he refused, preferring to die with his country and his subjects.

"Indeed, he chose to die first, so that he might avoid the sight of the city being taken and of its inhabitants being either savagely slaughtered or shamefully led away into slavery. When he saw that the enemy were forcing him back, and surging through the broken down wall into the city, it is said that he uttered in a great voice, these last words 'The city is taken; and should I still live?' With that he thrust himself into the midst of the enemy and was cut down."

Barbaro then went on to relate the horror of the Turks sack of the city, scenes which were repeated all over central and southern Europe:

"On 29 May 1453, the Turks entered Constantinople at daybreak. Before they entered the city, the confusion of those Turks and of the Christians was so great that they met face to face, and so many died that the dead bodies would have filled twenty carts.

"The Turks put the city to sword as they came, and everyone they found in their way they slashed with their scimitars, women and men, old and young, of every condition, and this slaughter continued from dawn until midday. Those Italian merchants who escaped hid in caves under the ground, but they were found by the Turks, and were all taken captive and sold as slaves. When those of the Turkish fleet saw with their own eyes that the Christians had lost Constantinople, that the flag of Sultan Mehmed had been hoisted over the highest tower in the city, and that the emperor's flags had been cut down and lowered, then all those in the seventy galleys went ashore . . .

"They sought out the convents and all the nuns were taken to the ships and abused and dishonoured by the Turks, and they were all sold at auction as slaves to be taken to Turkey, and similarly the young women were all dishonoured and sold at auction; some preferred to throw themselves into wells and drown.

"These Turks loaded their ships with people and a great treasure. They had this custom: when they entered a house, they would at once raise a flag with their own device, and when other Turks saw such a flag raised, no other Turk would for the world enter that house but would go looking for a house that had no flag; it was the same with all the convents and churches. As I understand it, it seems there were some two hundred thousand of these flags on the houses of Constantinople . . these flags flew above the houses for the whole of that day, and for all of that day the Turks made a great slaughter of Christians in the city. Blood flowed on the ground as though it were raining."

[Shirko]

A Christian narrative should be accompanied by a Muslim one too. No one is crying for the cruel Byzantines here.

A Greek scholar recites the last minutes of the last Roman Emperor, Constantine XI, as follows:

"Although he (Constantine XI) clearly saw with his own eyes the danger that threatened the city, and had the opportunity to save himself - as well as many people encouraging him to do so - he refused, preferring to die with his country and his subjects.

"Indeed, he chose to die first, so that he might avoid the sight of the city being takenavagely slaughtered or shamefully led away into slavery. When he saw that the enemy were forcing him back, and surging through the broken down wall into the city, it is said that he uttered in a great voice, these last words 'The city is taken; and should I still live?' With that he thrust himself into the midst of the enemy and was cut down."

Barbaro then went on to relate the horror of the Turks sack of the city, scenes which were repeated all over central and southern Europe:

"On 29 May 1453, the Turks entered Constantinople at daybreak. Before they entered the city, the confusion of those Turks and of the Christians was so great that they met face to face, and so many died that the dead bodies would have filled twenty carts.

"The Turks put the city to sword as they came, and everyone they found in their way they slashed with their scimitars, women and men, old and young, of every condition, and this slaughter continued from dawn until midday. Those Italian merchants who escaped hid in caves under the ground, but they were found by the Turks, and were all taken captive and sold as slaves. When those of the Turkish fleet saw with their own eyes that the Christians had lost Constantinople, that the flag of Sultan Mehmed had been hoisted over the highest tower in the city, and that the emperor's flags had been cut down and lowered, then all those in the seventy galleys went ashore . . .

"They sought out the convents and all the nuns were taken to the ships and abused and dishonoured by the Turks, and they were all sold at auction as slaves to be taken to Turkey, and similarly the young women were all dishonoured and sold at auction; some preferred to throw themselves into wells and drown.

"These Turks loaded their ships with people and a great treasure. They had this custom: when they entered a house, they would at once raise a flag with their own device, and when other Turks saw such a flag raised, no other Turk would for the world enter that house but would go looking for a house that had no flag; it was the same with all the convents and churches. As I understand it, it seems there were some two hundred thousand of these flags on the houses of Constantinople . . these flags flew above the houses for the whole of that day, and for all of that day the Turks made a great slaughter of Christians in the city. Blood flowed on the ground as though it were raining."

[Anthea]

A Christian narrative should be accompanied by a Muslim one too. No one is crying for the cruel Byzantines here.

If you have one please add it

I just want to remind people what Turks are really like and what they have always been like

[Shirko]

A Christian narrative should be accompanied by a Muslim one too. No one is crying for the cruel Byzantines here.

If you have one please add it

I just want to remind people what Turks are really like and what they have always been like

Ok I do not have time to post one now but I will later, just a little busy now. I will also post some proof that you are a liar, you are not who you say you are. And you are not a friend for Kurds, because you are trying to spread hate here on a Kurdish forum about Turks. You only want to see war and not peace. You are a hateful fanatic and you want to use Kurds as pawns for your agenda. That is why you call Ocalan names everyday and you hate him, because he is trying to make peace

[Shirko]

Whatvdid you guys do with the administrator? And how did you become a moderator?

[Anthea]

Ok I do not have time to post one now but I will later, just a little busy now. I will also post some proof that you are a liar, you are not who you say you are. And you are not a friend for Kurds, because you are trying to spread hate here on a Kurdish forum about Turks. You only want to see war and not peace. You are a hateful fanatic and you want to use Kurds as pawns for your agenda. That is why you call Ocalan names everyday and you hate him, because he is trying to make peace

If you have read my post you will know that I believe all life is sacred. I believe in the teaching of Ghandi and in holding in peaceful protests

All I have pointed out is that Turks have a violent history. Personally I do NOT trust the Turkish government especially now that they are building several new military bases in the Kurdish area. We all know that the majority of Turks do not like Kurds and I do not see the government actually doing anything to improve the relationships between Kurds and Turks. Nor do I see the Turkish government giving Kurds many more rights or any type of self rule

[Cewlik]

All I have pointed out is that Turks have a violent history.

Everybody knows that, good job Anthea, its a truth that the Turks must accept. Maybe you can also post something about the Turkeys genocide against Greeks, Armenians Kurds etc.

HZKurdi, calm down man, chill a little bit.

[Shirko]

HZKurdi, calm down man, chill a little bit.

I will calm down after somebody IP bans this trolls ass. You see what hapoens to.liars is that sooner or later they get forget what the said and get caught. She (or he) is a liar here is some of the lies:

- she sent me a message, that I can show if needed, claiming that her fathers mother is an Indian. And then she sent this the other day

you forget I am half English

- and how many times did she say her real name is Anthea? Well I can show you proof that some Kurds have showing her using a Facebook acount under "Amy Bean".

She is a liar and an enemy of Kurds and she should banned.

[Anthea]

HZKurdi, calm down man, chill a little bit.

I will calm down after somebody IP bans this trolls ass. You see what hapoens to.liars is that sooner or later they get forget what the said and get caught. She (or he) is a liar here is some of the lies:

- she sent me a message, that I can show if needed, claiming that her fathers mother is an Indian. And then she sent this the other day

you forget I am half English

- and how many times did she say her real name is Anthea? Well I can show you proof that some Kurds have showing her using a Facebook acount under "Amy Bean".

She is a liar and an enemy of Kurds and she should banned.

I have decided that YOU are TOTALLY MAD

I do not have any idea who or what Amy Bean is - perhaps it is YOU

I do not use facebook I use another safer social network for nerds

My cultural heritage is extremely mixed and absolutely NOTHING to do with you or anyone else. I am starting to wonder if you are a TURK

[Shirko]

Oh really, I am a Turk now? I can prove who I am, I have birth records and I can prove goung back 150 years. I am the only here who uses a REAL name. Why, because I am not scared of nobody but Allah. I say what I believe to be true and I am not scared to hide anything. And I am even going to get a DNA test and I will post the results to show that I am real.

[Anthea]

Oh really, I am a Turk now? I can prove who I am, I have birth records and I can prove goung back 150 years. I am the only here who uses a REAL name. Why, because I am not scared of nobody but Allah. I say what I believe to be true and I am not scared to hide anything. And I am even going to get a DNA test and I will post the results to show that I am real.

HZKurdi is a real name ? I think not

[Shirko]

All I have pointed out is that Turks have a violent history.

Everybody knows that, good job Anthea, its a truth that the Turks must accept. Maybe you can also post something about the Turkeys genocide against Greeks, Armenians Kurds etc.

HZKurdi, calm down man, chill a little bit.

You are right Cewlik, I need to chill out a little bit, I am getting all worked up for nothing. Let Ms. Bean have some fun and bash and expose the Turkish crimes, that is good and thats what she is here to do anyway.