Serekani (Raʾs al-ʿAyn): Heavy fighting between PYD and FSA

[Cewlik]

You don't seem to understand my point. So my response will be; think of a Kurdistan where people put their ethnicity, nationality, identity, country before their religion. Hope you understand what I mean.
Mahmud might be your hero, but I see him as a radical islamist. Anyhow, Mustafa Barzani is a true hero, he didn't exchange his country for Islam.

You must learn to read, the name of this topic is "Serekani (Raʾs al-ʿAyn): Heavy fighting between PYD and FSA" and not "Let us insult Kurdish Freedomfighters".

Try to come back to this topic.

[Anthea]

...for Kurds, Islam is much more important than a country; that's why 65% of Kurds in Turkey voted for AKP- Turkish Islamic party, and not Kurdish BDP.
And, you can't be a nationalist and a muslim, being a nationalist is against Islam.

You are WRONG many Kurds are TOO FRIGHTENED to show their support for a Kurdish political party

[Anthea]

I am CERTAIN that no one is insulting the BRAVE freedom fighters

I do wish to make a comment:

I am delighted that the different Kurdish fractions are working together

If Kurds ALL worked together there would be a FREE KURDISTAN which is what we ALL hope for

Some people have suggested that I am wrong and that we need more separation and yet more Kurdish groups

I believe that the strength of the Kurds is in their VAST NUMBERS and that UNITY is MOST important, especially in this time of struggle and unrest

Kurds MUST UNITE - they have to close ranks and NOT be divided any further

[unitedkurdistan]

When will you realise that our enemies uses islam to divide us.

No they dont use Islam to divide Kurds, they use fascism to kill Kurds. But they use Yezidism to divide the Kurds, you exactly know that they open a Yezidi party which make propaganda against Kurds and call Yezidis Arabs. Now should all Muslim Kurds start to insult Yezidis, because the enemy use their religion?

So you are telling me that the vast vast majority of the religous muslim kurds do not give their votes to AKP? Lets face it, there are more than 20 million kurds in turkey and how many of them give their votes to BDP compared to AKP? As you should know most kurds in turkey are religous muslims isn't that true?
Why do you think some even wanted to create a religous kurdish party at the first place?
The facts are clear and this is not only in turkey but in iran aswell.
And here he goes with ezedis, first of all, how many ezedis are there that are vital for a united nationalistic kurdish independance movement? They are few, very few compared to the +90% muslim kurds. Both the proud kurds now and the proud large majority of the ezedi kurds know that we are all kurds. I've seen many of them and I have met many of them.
But in the same time there are those ignorant ezedis just as there are the ignorant kurdish muslims who like to kill every non muslim kurd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QqjXi9S9D8&list=UU7qSq21A_9szYagMY-Di6Fw&index=29&feature=plcp&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

[Cewlik]

But in the same time there are those ignorant ezedis just as there are the ignorant kurdish muslims who like to kill every non muslim kurd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QqjXi9S9D8&list=UU7qSq21A_9szYagMY-Di6Fw&index=29&feature=plcp&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

Thanks that you show us all that arabs use Yezidism to make propaganda against Kurds, that Video that you post belongs to this channel. Accoruding to this channel Kurds are intolerant Terrorists and Arabs tolarant gentlemen.

http://www.youtube.com/user/yezidi11/videos?view=0

So you are telling me that the vast vast majority of the religous muslim kurds do not give their votes to AKP? Lets face it, there are more than 20 million kurds in turkey and how many of them give their votes to BDP compared to AKP?

Its like you are blind, just the foreign policy of the AKP is Islamic. Some Kurds vote for them because of the economic benefits and some"basic rights". It is not an excuse but that is the result of 100 years occupation of Kurdistan, because of higher population of the enemy, power, money etc. not because of Islam. But Dersim voted for the pure racist and anti Kurdish CHP. Majority of Christans support Arab and Turkish secular racists, Christians are 50% of Lebanese population, and are assimilated.

100 years under occupation and Kurds still fight for their rights. Who are you that you insult Muslim Kurds.

As you should know most kurds in turkey are religous muslims isn't that true?

Thanks to God they are.

[unitedkurdistan]

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[unitedkurdistan]

That guy is a troll, I have had many discussions with him and he's nothing but a jash. On the other hand, it is very clear that you want to point out that ezedi kurds are kurdish traitors. Secondly, you havn't answered me when I wrote about: ezedis are not vital for a united nationalistic kurdish independance movement since they are so few.
However all those religious muslim kurds that vote for AKP are vital. All those religous muslim kurds who fights for FSA, all those religious muslim kurds that works for iran are also vital for a united freedom movement.


I'm sorry man but your prolbem is that you view everything black and white where you are either a religious muslim or a non muslim. You can be a religous muslim but patriotic or nationalistic(as many of our leaders) in the same time but those religious muslim kurds who supports our enemies aren't and they are many.
Stop bringing baseless facts all the time, so if AKP's foreign policy is islamic then what is their domestic policy?
AKP have been accused many times by the secular turks for advocating a muslim state which they are and which is the reason so many religious kurds vote for them. And it is very clear that they want to create something islamic neo-ottoman. Erdogan himself have said that he supports sharia. It seem that you love islam more than your people.
First of all, tell me where I have insulted muslim kurds, I am a muslim kurd, my parents are muslim kurds. The ones that are bad however are those religious muslim kurds who sees religion and muslim brotherhood as the most important thing.

[Cewlik]

That guy is a troll

Please dont stop to use his videos, as long as he is not a Muslim Kurds, he must be a patriotic Kurd, even if he call Kurds terrorists and make Iraqi propaganda.

ezedis are not vital for a united nationalistic kurdish independance movement since they are so few.

If Yezidis would be the majority maybe Kurds would be assimilated and would support secular arabs and Turkish racists.

Stop bringing baseless facts all the time, so if AKP's foreign policy is islamic then what is their domestic policy?

Their domestic policy is secular, they banned Headscarves in the schools they rejected to swear on the Quran in the parliament and not even their Foreign Policy is real Islamic, more pro America and EU.

I am a muslim kurd

And i am Kim Jong-il.

For Muslim Kurds haters there is nothink more important for them as to attack Muslim Kurds. I ask you to stop this discussion in this topic, but you like it to divide the Kurds, it seems like Yezidism is more important for you than your people.

[Anthea]

Simple question: Who were there first? Kurds or Muslims?

KURDS

I answered it myself because to me it is a simple statement of FACT

Most wars appear to be either because of oil or religion

Fighting over oil is GREED

Fighting over religion is STUPID

Especially fighting between Muslim, Christian and Jew as they ALL worship exactly the same God

We also have countries where Muslims fight other Muslims - I am certain that is against the teaching of the Quran

I do NOT think that Religion and Politics belong together

Religion is something personal and it should NOT stop Kurds putting their heritage FIRST

I worship a Penguin named TUX

[unitedkurdistan]

You seem to have lack of understanding things. First of all I just used one of his videos, big deal and it's pretty obvious that you keep covering what your beloved kurdish religious jash is by attacking this troll all the time. Man you really get to me, how dumb can you really be? You are blinded by the islam and you are just as same as those religious muslim kurds who supports our enemies. Atleast our great leaders knew when the religious importance would stop however you seem to go far above that and even attacking non kurdish muslims, this just proves your ignorance.
Who brought up the ezedis in the first place? YOU, so zib your tounge.
Dude I already answered you their policy and the fact is that they are islamists trying to create a new muslim neo-ottoman empire were turkey will be the center with all other muslim countries around them. They do support islam and infact many westerners sees turkey as a democratic islamic country and that every muslim country should bel like turkey which is BS of course.
Yes I am a muslim kurd but I know just as our great leaders that islam should not be more important than our cause however you are the opposite and even attack non kurdish muslims.
If we kurds were all ezedis, we wouldn't have so many jashes fighting for the enemy. Anyone denying that our enemies uses islam to split us is a delusional jash.
Baning headscarfes, who are you trying to fool??!!
Why do you keep saying things without any facts, who are you trying to fool me or yourself?
It was AKP who lifted the ban on headscarfes. When the facist republic of turkey was created kemal atagay thought wearing headscarfes were a sign of backwardness and so it was written down in the constitution but when AKP came to power they lifted the ban.
"Prime Minister Erdogan campaigned in his victorious 2007 campaign with a promise of lifting the longstanding ban on headscarves in public institutions."
"The country's educational board and numerous universities vowed to defy the new law. In addition, the main pro-secular, opposition party of the Republican People's Party asked the constitutional court to block the new law passed, and viewed it is a move towards an Islamic state.[25] Thousands of demonstrators supporting the ban also gathered near the Parliament against the move by the government.[26]"
"Post September 2010: Headscarves informally permitted

After winning a referendum in September 2010, the ruling AKP vowed to support any student who was disciplined for wearing the headscarf on a university campus. Following this, the head of the Turkish Higher Educational council(YÖK), Yusuf Ziya Özcan, announced that instructors in universities may no longer take action against students wearing the headscarf.[28] While this goes against the Constitutional Court ruling of 2008, most universities have started permitting students to wear the headscarf on campus.[29]
"

[Cewlik]

If we kurds were all ezedis.

We would have more jashs and nobody would fight for Kurdistan.

[Anthea]

Excuse me but young people are giving their lives to fight for the Freedom of Kurdistan and people on here are arguing about-

HEAD SCARVES ? ? ?

[unitedkurdistan]

If we kurds were all ezedis.

We would have more jashs and nobody would fight for Kurdistan.

The one calling his own brother a jash just for having for another religion is the real jash in my opinion. Do you know what I saw on Zagros TV yesterday? I saw kurdish ezedis coming all the way from the mosul areas to Kirkuk just to show their support to the peshmergas, saying that we will be with you if a war comes etc. And not only men but women and children aswell. THis is the second time you bring up this bullshit statement. So are you telling me that ezedis didn't fight against the turks? They did. Did you know that the ezedis have lost many shehids in PKK? Did you know that the ezedi kurds in Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine etc show very strong support for their nation, that they want to contribute for Kurdistan?
What I find amazing is that their identity is still so strong after all this years in disapora.
I can understand if there are some few ezedis twho dislikes us but that's because of fooled islamist kurds like yourself that massacred them.

[Qonyeyi]

Whoever says Ezidis are jashes is a lost cause. Not only have they given shehids to PKK and other Kurdish groups. They are also the major contributor of economic support from the Caucassus region and Russia in terms of giving money to the PKK.

[Cewlik]

Not only have they given shehids to PKK and other Kurdish groups. They are also the major contributor of economic support from the Caucassus region and Russia in terms of giving money to the PKK.

I dont talk about individuals, I talk about the generality.

If the majority of Kurds would be Yezidis we dont would have a armed struggle like we have now. They would form alliances with nationalistic secular movements, thats what I think.

The one calling his own brother a jash just for having for another religion is the real jash in my opinion.

So you are a Christian or Yezidi and I am a Muslim. I dont even wanted to talk about that, but you like it, its like you love it to insult other Kurds, you dont even can stop with that.