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Re: Occupiers to some - not to others...

PostAuthor: Barış » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:36 pm

Diri wrote:Please be nice to eachother... O:)

Yea, be nice. ;)
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: Barış » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:40 pm

raman82 wrote:But Baris , thats nothing compared to what the Mongols did to the Chinese(slaughtering millions of chinese and enslaving them for ) , on top of innihilating the Caucasian Iranic populations which existed in Central Asia. Countries like Uzbekistan ,Kazakhstan and Tajikistan were inhabited by Iranic peoples before they were slaughtered in millions and replaced by soldiers of the golden horde , which is why Mongols have become known for their brutality and if you go to Afghanistan, ethnic Pashtuns and Tajiks have an enmity with Hazaras and Uzbeks because of this.

The chinese deserved to be slaughtered. Most iranies did as well. Those iranies are occupying part of Azerbaycan...
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: Barış » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:42 pm

sicpit wrote:What about Mongolian history?

What about it?
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: sicpit » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:37 am

Barış wrote:
sicpit wrote:What about Mongolian history?

What about it?

The Mongols were probably the most brutal force in History
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: raman82 » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:24 am

The Mongols were probably the most brutal force in History[/quote]


YES, they were , if you read history books , you feel lucky in times like this , I mean I cant imagine the horrors of what those people must have faced . In any case , I believe in karma and past actions so I think god balances everything out.
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:32 am

Barış wrote:
raman82 wrote:But Baris , thats nothing compared to what the Mongols did to the Chinese(slaughtering millions of chinese and enslaving them for ) , on top of innihilating the Caucasian Iranic populations which existed in Central Asia. Countries like Uzbekistan ,Kazakhstan and Tajikistan were inhabited by Iranic peoples before they were slaughtered in millions and replaced by soldiers of the golden horde , which is why Mongols have become known for their brutality and if you go to Afghanistan, ethnic Pashtuns and Tajiks have an enmity with Hazaras and Uzbeks because of this.

The chinese deserved to be slaughtered. Most iranies did as well. Those iranies are occupying part of Azerbaycan...
You joking? Lol
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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Re: Occupiers to some - not to others...

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:33 am

Ataturk already said it: Peace at home, peace in the world. Turkey will never defend Uygur in China or Azeri in Iran. Maybe in countries like Bulgaria, but that's it.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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Re: Occupiers to some - not to others...

PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:03 pm

Barış wrote:
proudkurd wrote:
Barış wrote:Okey you know the Southeast belongs to Türkiye now. You Kurds will never have it again and should accept that okey. All these peoples lives lost because terorist Kurds don't accept this reality. You Kurds should be satisfied with North Irak and not want more land. Peace and unity is best don't you think?


Oh my goodness Barış, that was so mean!!
Why should the Kurdish peopel be satisfied only with Northern Iraq when that's not our only land?
Do you know how many Kurds live in Turkey? And also, in Iran, Syria--and other places too!
It has been our land since God knows when, it's OUR home, you can't expect people to just leave their homes.. that's ridiculous to think!
1) Kurdistan becomes the official name of the autonomous region.
2) Kurdish is an official language along with Turkish.
3) Kurdish is taught at schools alongside Turkish.
4) Freedom of political organization - so that all views, including separatist views can be aired in political forums.
5) A regional Assembly to represent Kurdistan in the Turkish parliament.


4) = I think if you let people air all their political ideas - including separatist ones, then you will avoid violence and if people have this freedom - they won't even be separatist - because there will be no reason to be separatist: if all our rights are respected...


I agree with that too, Diri, and it's very unfair how the Turkish people are treating the Kurds...they need to be given more rights and freedoms..

In my personal opinion Barış, you are being very hypocritical.. you complain about how the Chinese oppress the areas you mentioned, but you say
Okey you know the Southeast belongs to Türkiye now. You Kurds will never have it again and should accept that okey.
.. how should we accept that?

I don't think I understand what you're saying/trying to say, but the way you said it really offended me..

It's not mean it's reality. ;)

I don't expect you to leave your homes but just accept it's southeast Türkiye. I'm not being hypocritical. The southeast belongs to the Türk. ;)


It's funny how you went from liberal/open-minded Bariş to conservative/hypocritical rubbish...

Seriously - you couldn't even write the NAME yet wrote "_______"???? Now THAT is very low...

Thanks for showing your real colors...
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:05 pm

Barış wrote:
raman82 wrote:But Baris , thats nothing compared to what the Mongols did to the Chinese(slaughtering millions of chinese and enslaving them for ) , on top of innihilating the Caucasian Iranic populations which existed in Central Asia. Countries like Uzbekistan ,Kazakhstan and Tajikistan were inhabited by Iranic peoples before they were slaughtered in millions and replaced by soldiers of the golden horde , which is why Mongols have become known for their brutality and if you go to Afghanistan, ethnic Pashtuns and Tajiks have an enmity with Hazaras and Uzbeks because of this.

The chinese deserved to be slaughtered. Most iranies did as well. Those iranies are occupying part of Azerbaycan...



"Deserved" :lol:




This is getting ridiculous... But that is just RACIST... So be careful what you say, Bariş... :wink:
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Re: Occupiers to some - not to others...

PostAuthor: proudkurd » Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:15 pm

Barış wrote:
Diri wrote:Please be nice to eachother... O:)

Yea, be nice. ;)


Maybe you should take your own advice, Barış...
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: Barış » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:28 pm

Vladimir wrote:
Barış wrote:
raman82 wrote:But Baris , thats nothing compared to what the Mongols did to the Chinese(slaughtering millions of chinese and enslaving them for ) , on top of innihilating the Caucasian Iranic populations which existed in Central Asia. Countries like Uzbekistan ,Kazakhstan and Tajikistan were inhabited by Iranic peoples before they were slaughtered in millions and replaced by soldiers of the golden horde , which is why Mongols have become known for their brutality and if you go to Afghanistan, ethnic Pashtuns and Tajiks have an enmity with Hazaras and Uzbeks because of this.

The chinese deserved to be slaughtered. Most iranies did as well. Those iranies are occupying part of Azerbaycan...
You joking? Lol

:lol: Yea that was too harsh, wasn't it?
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Re: Occupiers to some - not to others...

PostAuthor: Barış » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:31 pm

Vladimir wrote:Ataturk already said it: Peace at home, peace in the world. Turkey will never defend Uygur in China or Azeri in Iran. Maybe in countries like Bulgaria, but that's it.

Yea I know. Was just blowing like a wind bag, Herr Flautz.
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Re: Occupiers to some - not to others...

PostAuthor: Barış » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:38 pm

Diri wrote:
Barış wrote:It's not mean it's reality. ;)

I don't expect you to leave your homes but just accept it's southeast Türkiye. I'm not being hypocritical. The southeast belongs to the Türk. ;)


It's funny how you went from liberal/open-minded Bariş to conservative/hypocritical rubbish...

Seriously - you couldn't even write the NAME yet wrote "_______"???? Now THAT is very low...

Thanks for showing your real colors...

Yea that was low. Sorry about that. :?
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Re: Strangest present

PostAuthor: Barış » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:41 pm

Diri wrote:
Barış wrote:
raman82 wrote:But Baris , thats nothing compared to what the Mongols did to the Chinese(slaughtering millions of chinese and enslaving them for ) , on top of innihilating the Caucasian Iranic populations which existed in Central Asia. Countries like Uzbekistan ,Kazakhstan and Tajikistan were inhabited by Iranic peoples before they were slaughtered in millions and replaced by soldiers of the golden horde , which is why Mongols have become known for their brutality and if you go to Afghanistan, ethnic Pashtuns and Tajiks have an enmity with Hazaras and Uzbeks because of this.

The chinese deserved to be slaughtered. Most iranies did as well. Those iranies are occupying part of Azerbaycan...



"Deserved" :lol:



This is getting ridiculous... But that is just RACIST... So be careful what you say, Bariş... :wink:

Outch! Did I realy say that?
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Re: Occupiers to some - not to others...

PostAuthor: raman82 » Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:23 am

Baris you need to do some research , you seem pretty ignorant on these issues.
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