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Far-leftist surges in French polls shocking the frontrunners

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:28 pm

In a presidential campaign with more twists than a French braid, Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s sudden play to become France’s third man -- or better -- is shaking up the race.

With ten days to go before April 23’s first round vote, the colourful, cultured and cantankerous far-leftist has the frontrunners on the defensive.

Suddenly, the grumpy far-leftist -- a showman in a Chairman Mao jacket who openly admired late Venezuelan populist leader Hugo Chavez -- holds the mantle of France’s most popular politician. In the course of a whirlwind month, the 65-year-old Mélenchon surged nine spots to number one in weekly glossy Paris Match’s opinion poll. A full 68 percent of those surveyed hold “favourable opinions” of the far-left candidate, the poll by the Ifop-Fiducial firm showed.

On some polls, Mélenchon has now bypassed embattled conservative François Fillon for third place in a presidential race that will see the top two advance to the May 7 run-off.

More : http://www.france24.com/en/20170413-fra ... -run-money


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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:39 am

How long does the French election system take?

How many rounds/ballots take place?
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Re: Far-leftist surges in French polls shocking the frontrun

PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:38 am

2 rounds : April 23 th (next Sunday) and May 7th.

When a president is elected, he asks then elections for a new parliament. Generally, it happens in June. So in fact there are 3 rounds.
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:05 am

Piling wrote:2 rounds : April 23 th (next Sunday) and May 7th.

When a president is elected, he asks then elections for a new parliament. Generally, it happens in June. So in fact there are 3 rounds.


Seems rather long-winded to me :shock:

I imagine the top 3 in the first round go into the second round - or something similar :-?

How many actually go through to the second round?

Does the general public have to vote 3 times?

In the UK, it is difficult enough to pursued people to go out and vote once - certainly would not get them to vote a second time, never mind a third :))
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:21 am

Getting the estate to vote in Marseille
By Patrick Jackson BBC News, Marseille

Votes have no colour, religion or class, so why so few election posters in multi-ethnic La Busserine?

About 3,000 people (nobody seems to know for sure) are packed into this 1960s housing estate in northern Marseille and they have some serious issues.

Think "ghetto" and you are on the right track.

La Busserine is in the 14th Arrondissement, a district which made national headlines in 2014 when, together with the neighbouring 13th, it elected the city's first (sector-level) mayor from the far right National Front.

Yet over two days, the only traces I found of this month's presidential election were a few posters for radical leftist Jean-Luc Mélenchon.

    24.96% abstention in 2012 presidential run-off (19.66% in France nationally)

    61,186 residents (Marseille population 855,393)

    3,721.8 residents per sq km (103.6 nationally)

    29.3% unemployed (13.6% nationally)

    39.6% in poverty (14% nationally)

But one group of first-time voters do not need posters because they have smartphones and can tell their Macron from their Hamon by actually reading their manifestos.

These daughters and sons of Comorans, Moroccans and other immigrants want to reconnect their neighbours to politics.

Oh and they are looking for a party of the other kind too.

Did someone say party?

Fifty areas in 34 towns and cities across France are competing to see who can reduce electoral abstention the most.

Citizen Challenge (in French) was launched in the deprived Strasbourg suburb of Neuhof after 80% of voters there stayed away from the first round of regional elections in December 2015.

A video (in French) which features kids daring adults to get out and vote for their future got more than 200,000 views on YouTube and abstention fell to 70% in the second round, Neuhof community centre director Khoutir Khechab explains.

He and his team are negotiating with public bodies and bands to come up with the prize: a concert in the winning area.

French election: Everything you need to know

What's on people's minds?

Elections come and go but on the estate, a place full of children, people have been sinking under the same issues for years.

One issue comes around ten o'clock in the morning as the spotters emerge into the sun to watch over the estate's notorious hashish trade. Another emerges after dark when the réseaux (drug gangs) settle scores, sometimes with a kalash (Kalashnikov).

And morning, noon and night, the issues of unemployment and poverty hang over this community living 8km (five miles) from the luxury boutiques and restaurants of Marseille's Vieux Port (city centre).

Discrimination is also a live issue for the numerous Muslims here. Some 200,000 live in Marseille (population 855,393 as of 2013), according to French media.

"Muslims here are like disabled people," says a local shipyard worker of Algerian ancestry who does not want to be named.

"If your name is Mohamed it's like you're missing an arm or a foot or a face. We're given all the hard work, the dirtiest work, the worst jobs."

People take some persuading, right?

"It's called a challenge because it's not easy," says French radio correspondent Stephane Burgatt, who followed the group around the flats of La Busserine in December.

"It's the kind of place where most people don't care about politics and don't know for whom to vote."

First-time voters Amal Osman, 18, Mohamed Abdallah, 19, and Sarah Mmadi, 18, are among a couple of dozen activists who went door to door persuading people to register to vote.

Today, equipped with props like a mock polling station, they focus on reminding voters in La Busserine (70% abstention at the regional elections) to actually use their ballots.

Do Muslims vote for the National Front?

The 14th, a working-class district, traditionally voted Communist or Socialist but in 2014 voters swung to the far right. Most of the Front's support came from outside the housing estates, among white voters.

However it is clear that some Muslims also voted for Stephane Ravier as their mayor despite his party's hard line on Islam and mass immigration, says Richard Ghevontian, a politics expert at Aix Marseille University.

"[Socialist President Francois] Hollande's policies disappointed many and Marriage For Everyone [the Socialists' same-sex marriage act of 2013, opposed by the National Front] greatly shocked Muslims, who are extremely conservative on social matters," he says, citing opinion surveys.


"It was a vote to punish Hollande," says a teacher in La Busserine, who does not want to be identified.

The shipyard worker, like nearly every voter I spoke to on the estate, is voting for Mr Mélenchon. "He tells the truth and a vote for him is a vote for peace with Muslims," he explains.

And three years under Mayor Ravier? "He does nothing for us but he leaves us alone," he says with a shrug.

Who are the candidates?

What can Citizen Challenge really achieve?

France was once a model for voter turnout in the EU, says Professor Ghevontian, but in this election there is a real concern that abstention may rise.

If election campaigners do not go into places like La Busserine, it is because they have become no-go areas even for the police, he says.

Yet the first-time voters keep up their campaign, encouraged by growing publicity for their cause and, crucially, the 100 or so people who registered to vote after talking to them.

"Citizen Challenge is good for the young because it gets them active and gives them a bit more value as human beings and citizens," says the teacher, "but our politicians live on another planet and they need to come back down to Earth."

Will La Busserine win the concert? Street parties are an old and happy tradition in other parts of Marseille, with free concerts and kids' activities.

There is a real appetite on the estate for breaking out of the social isolation. AS Busserine football club inspires a loyal following and the Agora social centre runs clubs.

Sarah, who still remembers the fear of failure she felt as she knocked on her first door last year, says: "Our aim is to revive the area because the life went out of it."

"We got together to show the little ones that there is a good path and a bad path and they can choose the right one," says Amal. "Citizen Challenge lets them see the world of politics. It's only the beginning."

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Re: Far-leftist surges in French polls shocking the frontrun

PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:18 pm

I imagine the top 3 in the first round go into the second round - or something similar :-?

How many actually go through to the second round?

Does the general public have to vote 3 times?


1. No, the 2 winners pass the 2nd round.

2. Yes, it is a direct popular vote. We elected our president, and then, after he/she dissolves the Parliament, we elect a member of parliament, according to our circonscription. In each circonscription, it could have 1 or 2 turn, it depends if one reached the absolute majority or not.

Even French citizens living abroad have to elect a MP. There is one for each large area in the world. Here we are in the "Asia seat".
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Re: Far-leftist surges in French polls shocking the frontrun

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:42 pm

Piling wrote:
I imagine the top 3 in the first round go into the second round - or something similar :-?

How many actually go through to the second round?

Does the general public have to vote 3 times?


1. No, the 2 winners pass the 2nd round.

2. Yes, it is a direct popular vote. We elected our president, and then, after he/she dissolves the Parliament, we elect a member of parliament, according to our circonscription. In each circonscription, it could have 1 or 2 turn, it depends if one reached the absolute majority or not.

Even French citizens living abroad have to elect a MP. There is one for each large area in the world. Here we are in the "Asia seat".


Thank you :ymapplause:

Now I understand it ;)
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