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Is the Washington Post bias

PostAuthor: doopaman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:11 pm

I'm sarting to notice that when ever there is negative report in iraq about the Arabs (like when Ibrahim Jaafari first take the oath or when they try'd to expel all kurdish police officers from Kirkuk) I never hear any of this in the major news media.but as soon a kurds do somthing negative I hear about it in the Washington Post and in a israeli forum.Here the links :x [/list]

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PostAuthor: doopaman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:33 pm

a you have to come here there a turk on this site http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=8219 making propaganda

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:48 pm

He is just a Turkish nationalist. He doesn't care when Kurds getting killed, that is worser then abductions.. the people were freed again. I wouldn't call it abductions but arrests..
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: doopaman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:01 pm

yeah but I dont think kurds voice are being hear in major news media, this is were public opinion it at.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:04 pm

Doopman - I have registered... Even though nodbody wanted to help me with the Persians at: http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6121&sid=4d93de860a8f766ac32a5aa8f75fe586

I will come and blow that Turk to hell for those things he says... that bastard...
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:24 pm

He is really a (*@(@*.
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: doopaman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:30 pm

Diri I think you got to be very carful to how you talk toh.The average Iranians, Turks, and Arabs are very nationalist, dont think they dont listen.Most of there national security is focus on the kurds.

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PostAuthor: doopaman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:39 pm

which forum did you register, the israeli or iranian forum. :?:

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:51 pm

He did both!
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:57 pm

THAT IS RIGHT ;) I FIGHT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME - YOU CAN USE THE WEAKNESS OF ONE OF THEM AGAINST WEAKNESS OF THE OTHER ;)


Besides - what are you afraid of??? That they might track me down?? Well let them come here and I'll give them some REAL ass whoppin' for all the suffering Kurdistan and Kurdish mothers have had to endure and take from these SCUM!
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PostAuthor: Emmunah » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:12 pm

Yes, but the Turks are there for a longer time, so it's not that simple. I have been asked "to take your arguments elsewhere" because the Jews don't want to have other ethnic wars (the whole world is full of ethnic tension) and I can understand that. It's bad manners to go to another board to argue with someone else. Kind of like coming to your house to visit and having one of your guests fighting with the other guests,,,know what I mean?

Personally, I 100% believe that the Turks hire people to monitor those forums and keep any Kurds from talking to any Jews! Maybe even Turkish intelligence job for that. The tactic they use is to get Kurds mad, while they themselves stay very cool and intellectual, and then the Kurds say something nasty and make themselves look bad. Beware of this trap, and always stay calm and cool.

Yes, both the Washington Post and the NY Times are very much against the war and they will print anything they can find that makes the whole situation look bad.

The US public opinion polls are indicating that US citizens want the US out of the war. These politicians have to stand for election in 2006 and definately in 2008. This is why I keep saying it is important to get Southern Kurdistan as strong as possible...we do not have much time...if there is to be a Kurdistan, it must be able to withstand the US withdrawal....and this is a time to work for as much support as we can.

I hope the US will not do that, but the leaders must answer the people, so who knows how much of a big issue it will be...but the seriously injured is approaching 10,000 and killed is 1,700. It may not seem like much, but Americans ask "what is it for?" and what are the politicians supposed to say to that?
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:22 pm

You are totally right.. and the Kurds must make sure, this didn't mean Arab troops come on Kurdish soil.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:29 pm

I third that TOO! :lol:


We must not become victims of our own pride - ADMIT that we are weak at this stage! We have a LOOOONG way to go before we can even defend our nation by means of arms - but that will all change when the constitution is written! What can we do - we just have to wait and see if our leaders do the right thing... And I believe that Serok (as in President) Barzanî will do his uttmost to protect Kurdistan... Hell - I bet he would start a war with Turkey if they start attacking Qandil mountains - He was quite FIRM when he said that he would NOT accept ANY nation or neighbour to intervein in Kurdistans national problems.. So - He pointed out that He was againt any intervention about the Qandil mountains and PKK - He has truely become a Serok in my eyes - I mean NO party has ever defended another party in Kurdistan... And the way it is going I bet Barzanî would kick Turkeys ass if the come into Qandil mountains :D

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PostAuthor: doopaman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:35 pm

Emmunah wrote:Yes, but the Turks are there for a longer time, so it's not that simple. I have been asked "to take your arguments elsewhere" because the Jews don't want to have other ethnic wars (the whole world is full of ethnic tension) and I can understand that. It's bad manners to go to another board to argue with someone else. Kind of like coming to your house to visit and having one of your guests fighting with the other guests,,,know what I mean?

Personally, I 100% believe that the Turks hire people to monitor those forums and keep any Kurds from talking to any Jews! Maybe even Turkish intelligence job for that. The tactic they use is to get Kurds mad, while they themselves stay very cool and intellectual, and then the Kurds say something nasty and make themselves look bad. Beware of this trap, and always stay calm and cool.

Yes, both the Washington Post and the NY Times are very much against the war and they will print anything they can find that makes the whole situation look bad.

The US public opinion polls are indicating that US citizens want the US out of the war. These politicians have to stand for election in 2006 and definately in 2008. This is why I keep saying it is important to get Southern Kurdistan as strong as possible...we do not have much time...if there is to be a Kurdistan, it must be able to withstand the US withdrawal....and this is a time to work for as much support as we can.

I hope the US will not do that, but the leaders must answer the people, so who knows how much of a big issue it will be...but the seriously injured is approaching 10,000 and killed is 1,700. It may not seem like much, but Americans ask "what is it for?" and what are the politicians supposed to say to that?
I agree if the american where leave tommorow, there be genocide you need some help.A lot of peolpe don't understand the kurdish issue some think iraq is one whole nation, that if you just put domocracy every one will be happy.but they shuld unersdand that iraq is a ARTIFICIAL nation.The centrifugal forces of conflicting religion, ethnicity and tribalism are reducing Iraq to its true status, two different nations.I believe US. goverment would like to see an inependent kurdistan, but it in a difficult position becuse of Turkey.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:40 pm

Well said Doopaman... I agree - the US DOES want an independent Kurdistan - they KNOW that Kurds are good allies and that they would be a beacon for the rest of the islamic and tyrant middle east... But yes - they are not giving official support because of cursed Turkey...

I am absolutly sure that the US wanted Kurdistan to be a part of their operation in bringing down Iran and Syria - and that is why Kurds in Soth enjoy the freedom they have ;)
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