Saddam misusing Islam in court

[islamic~pride]

or Islamist Kurds ?

wat? most kurds are islamic, im an islamist kurd, but i dont love sadam

[Mosul]

Their are thousands and thousands of Islamist Kurds who hate Saddam, to their guts.

[dyaoko]

No, I was unaware of that Kak Dyaoko. Those Kurds are worse than the traitor village guards themselves. (or perhaps they are village guards?)

no they are not jash or traitor ... you know in Iran sunnies are under oppression , those peopel that I told you , are among Un-Educated peopel , those who can not even read and write, and they have never had chance to know about what saddam did to kurds, many of them dont even know there is a Kurdistan outside of iran.

so they saw Saddam a Hero of Sunnies , well I ofcourse I had a hard time to convince them saddam is a war criminal and we should be happy that US is destroying him.

[Mosul]

Well dyako, how are they jash when they did not know what Saddam had done? You clearly told us that it was not their fault.

[dyaoko]

Well dyako, how are they jash when they did not know what Saddam had done? You clearly told us that it was not their fault.

I didnt call them jash .

[Mosul]

He is putting on this muslim act because he wants to gain sympathy and support from the Islamic world.

can you belive me that I know some Iranian Kurds who during us-iraq war cried for Saddam ? they used to say "Saddam is my Brother in Relligion who is being attacked by a Kafir , we must support him against these kafir ajnabis"

ofcourse because of the Censorship of the news they never had the chance to know about what saddam had done to the Kurds ... after I told them about anfal , halabcha ... they became so sorry for being negleted by saddam's islamic propagenda....

I still know some other Iranian Kurds who are fond of saddam as hero of Islam or Sunni World .

Dyako either you have met some DA Kurds, or your lieing, Becuase During the Iran and Iraq war Saddam bombed Kurdish villages in Iran, and Iran was the first to put Halabja on Irani Media.

[tomjez]

Saddam supported Iranian kurds against Iran, as Iran supported Iraqi Kurds. What the hell, Saddam even supported PKK against KDP and PUK at one point.

however it is true that the iranian showed Halabja images for the first time (check Bamarni's "un printemps kurde" book for that), but I doubt it was by brotherhood with kurds...

Islamists will always put islam before nationalism or patriotism,: hence, it is more serious for a egyptian than denmark publish cartoons than egyptian police kills dozens of sudaneses...

[Vladimir]

Well you also have Turkish Islamists.. mix of nationalism and islamism.

[tomjez]

Yes this is known as the turco-islamist synthesis, ideology supported by the generals of 12 september 1980... the idea was to gather turkish society around both nationalism and Islam, against "divisionists" like leftists and kurds.

This official tolerance of Islamism produced the current Islamist parties of turkey, who were not that important before 1980...

Funny thing is that this ideology, currently still important, pretends to be a continuity of kemalism, but I'm pretty sure Kemal would not be too happy with that!

But Turkish islamism is a very complex world with very different tendancies. Some Islamists are friendly to kurds because they seem them as counter power against the military, or a "natural ally"... My hope is that AKP gets rid of its extremist tendancies and becomes really an "Islamo democrat" party... I think it will fail, cause Erdogan is definitely not a real democrat, and I can't see any other figure... It's really a pity that Türgüt Özal died!

[Diri]

Yes this is known as the turco-islamist synthesis, ideology supported by the generals of 12 september 1980... the idea was to gather turkish society around both nationalism and Islam, against "divisionists" like leftists and kurds.

This official tolerance of Islamism produced the current Islamist parties of turkey, who were not that important before 1980...

Funny thing is that this ideology, currently still important, pretends to be a continuity of kemalism, but I'm pretty sure Kemal would not be too happy with that!

But Turkish islamism is a very complex world with very different tendancies. Some Islamists are friendly to kurds because they seem them as counter power against the military, or a "natural ally"... My hope is that AKP gets rid of its extremist tendancies and becomes really an "Islamo democrat" party... I think it will fail, cause Erdogan is definitely not a real democrat, and I can't see any other figure... It's really a pity that Türgüt Özal died!

Died?

[tomjez]

Was murdered....but who really knows?

[Diri]

Was murdered....but who really knows?

Well... Since there is a BIG difference between 1991 Turkey and 2001 Turkey - I think it is more likely that he was murdered...