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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:02 pm

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PostAuthor: heval » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:42 pm

Vladimir wrote:
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What for Propaganda? something wrong with it there is an Assyrian flag a bombed church and a Cross do you have something against it does it hurt Kurds in any way no it aint.
Nothing wrong with it.. it only covers my hole screen. Can you please make it smaller..

K.. thx



I second Vladimir's request. Stop using such large pics as a way of getting your point across. We are not blind.
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PostAuthor: ChiChalok » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:39 am

heval wrote:
Vladimir wrote:
Rumtaya wrote:
What for Propaganda? something wrong with it there is an Assyrian flag a bombed church and a Cross do you have something against it does it hurt Kurds in any way no it aint.
Nothing wrong with it.. it only covers my hole screen. Can you please make it smaller..

K.. thx



I second Vladimir's request. Stop using such large pics as a way of getting your point across. We are not blind.


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PostAuthor: Mosul » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:36 am

ramatayah you cannot take single verses out the quran, you have to put the verses that follow it to understand it, this is very weak attempt that you have made agansit islam. you should be more worried about your people in iraq, and what identity they should take up next.

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:10 am

My dear lovley Kurds specially who are here muslim kurds cause of those Verse some brain fucked islamists are killing innocent people not only christians also yezedis and others.

and dont worry man i think always about my people who are in a bad condition but i cant change it from here its their political mind what they do.

but i am sure and that more then 120% you will see soon only us being called Assyrians i hate it so much if they talk in the news the christians what de shit man these christian got a name A S S Y R I A N S.

ALAH U AKBAR

god save the human with good heart and help those who got a bad one.

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PostAuthor: ChiChalok » Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:48 pm

Rumtaya wrote:My dear lovley Kurds specially who are here muslim kurds cause of those Verse some brain fucked islamists are killing innocent people not only christians also yezedis and others.

and dont worry man i think always about my people who are in a bad condition but i cant change it from here its their political mind what they do.

but i am sure and that more then 120% you will see soon only us being called Assyrians i hate it so much if they talk in the news the christians what de shit man these christian got a name A S S Y R I A N S.

ALAH U AKBAR

god save the human with good heart and help those who got a bad one.


why dont u watch ur words?? :evil:
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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: xoda-is-self-exist » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:15 am

Rumtaya wrote:Sure 2,90
Sure 3,62
Sure 3,119
Sure 4,105
Sure 5,34
Sure 2, 190
Sure 5,52


Thanks for your help
this a proof you are not a muslim born u are an ezidi cult.there is no such a thing called verses from islam it doesn't make sense at all.but im sorry.these r old trick people make fun of faith of islam.look! take a bath and wash yourself.im so sorry if i've hurt ur feeling.sorry

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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: Diri » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:53 am

xoda-is-self-exist wrote:
Rumtaya wrote:Sure 2,90
Sure 3,62
Sure 3,119
Sure 4,105
Sure 5,34
Sure 2, 190
Sure 5,52


Thanks for your help
this a proof you are not a muslim born u are an ezidi cult.there is no such a thing called verses from islam it doesn't make sense at all.but im sorry.these r old trick people make fun of faith of islam.look! take a bath and wash yourself.im so sorry if i've hurt ur feeling.sorry


Hello Exist..

Welcome to Roj Bash Kurdistan... :)

Rumtaya is not Êzidî or Muslim... He is a Christian of the Nestorian Church...

But it's realy tragic how paranoid you seem to be - demonizing the Êzidî is not the right way to go...
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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: sicpit » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:35 pm

xoda-is-self-exist wrote:
Rumtaya wrote:Sure 2,90
Sure 3,62
Sure 3,119
Sure 4,105
Sure 5,34
Sure 2, 190
Sure 5,52


Thanks for your help
this a proof you are not a muslim born u are an ezidi cult.there is no such a thing called verses from islam it doesn't make sense at all.but im sorry.these r old trick people make fun of faith of islam.look! take a bath and wash yourself.im so sorry if i've hurt ur feeling.sorry


Long live Gods chosen people, The Yezidi of course
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some interesting verses from the holly book of Arab

PostAuthor: Jamo » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:47 am

I've never read Koran in my life and have very basic knowledge about Islam. Here are some ridicilous mistakes from Koran (Holly Book of Arabs)


Who Was the First Muslim? Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]?


Can Angels Cause the Death of People? The Qur'an attacks those who worship anyone besides God (e.g. angels or prophets) because those can neither create, nor give life, nor cause anyone to die. Yet, the Qur'an explicitly states that one angel or several angels are causing certain people to die [Sura 4:97, 16:28, 32, 32:11].


To Marry or Not to Marry? The Qur'an forbids believers to marry idolatrous women [Sura 2:221], and calls Christians idolaters and unbelievers [9:28-33], but still allows Muslims to marry Christian women [5:5].


Will Allah reward the good deeds of Unbelievers? S. 9:17 and 9:69 clearly say no. However, S. 99:7 implies yes. Moreover, S. 2:62 promises Christians reward for their good deeds. But S. 9:28-33; 5:17, 72-73 calls Christians idolaters, and S. 9:17 is very clear that idolaters will have no reward.


Should Muslims show kindness to their parents? On the one hand, the Quran commands all Muslims to show kindness to their parents, even if they are disbelievers [17:23-24, 31:14-15, 29:8, etc.]. On the other hand, it demands not to show any love or friendship to those who oppose Muhammad, even if they are their parents [9:23, 58:22].


How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur'an speaks about the announciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Sura 3:42,45 speaks about (several) angels while it is only one in Sura 19:17-21.


Worshiping the Same or a Different God? Muhammad is commanded to speak to the disbelievers: ... nor do you worship what I worship [109:3]. However, other verses in the Qur'an state clearly that those disbelieving his message are in fact worshiping the same God, Allah.


To Intercede or Not To Intercede? - That is the Question! The Qur'an makes contradictory statements whether on the Day of Judgment intercession will be possible. No: [2:122-123, 254; 6:51; 82:18-19; etc.]. Yes: [20:109; 34:23; 43:86; 53:26; etc.]. Each position can be further supported by ahadith.
Moses and the Injil? Jesus is born more than 1,000 years after Moses, but in 7:157 Allah speaks to Moses about what is written in the Injil [the book given to Jesus].


Was Noah driven out? "Before them *the people of Noah* rejected (their messenger): They rejected Our servant and said, 'Here is One possessed!' And he was driven out." [Sura 54:9] Now, if he is driven out [expelled from their country] how come they can scoff at him while he is building the ark since we read "Forthwith he (starts) constructing the Ark: Every time that the Chiefs of *his people* passed by him, they threw ridicule on him." [Sura 11:38] He cannot be both: Driven out and near enough that they can regularly pass by.


Will Christians enter Paradise or go to Hell? Sura 2:62 and 5:69 say "Yes", Sura 5:72 (just 3 verses later) and 3:85 say "No".


The stars and the moon The Qur'an teaches that there are seven heavens one above the other [67:3, 71:15], and that the stars are in the lower heaven [67:5, 37:6, 41:12], but the moon is depicted as being in/inside the seven heavens [71:16], even though in reality the stars are much further away from the earth than the moon.


Did Jesus Die already? Sura 3:144 states that all messengers died before Muhammad. But 4:158 claims that Jesus was raised to God (alive?).


http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/
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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:51 pm

@Jamo

Using anti-Islamic sites to find the "truth" about Islam, is like going to a Turk to find the "truth" about Zazaistan and Kurdistan.... :roll:
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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: Jamo » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:36 am

Diri wrote:@Jamo

Using anti-Islamic sites to find the "truth" about Islam, is like going to a Turk to find the "truth" about Zazaistan and Kurdistan.... :roll:


So you are saying that Islam has no errors? These are written in Qu'ran! Those anti-Islamists certainly did not add their own words into Qu'ran. So you mean we all should respect Islam totally and never criticize or question it???

Bible has also some mistakes but not as much as the book of Arab.

We Zazas and Kurds have also some mistakes like any other nation
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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:52 am

Jamo wrote:
Diri wrote:@Jamo

Using anti-Islamic sites to find the "truth" about Islam, is like going to a Turk to find the "truth" about Zazaistan and Kurdistan.... :roll:


So you are saying that Islam has no errors? These are written in Qu'ran! Those anti-Islamists certainly did not add their own words into Qu'ran. So you mean we all should respect Islam totally and never criticize or question it???

Bible has also some mistakes but not as much as the book of Arab.

We Zazas and Kurds have also some mistakes like any other nation



First of all, you are talking about RELGION here, not something wordly or profane... It's a BELIEF - and maybe for YOU there are "errors" - but for others there are not... And everybodt is entitled to RESPECT for their beliefs... I have not yet LOCKED and DELETED this topic because it was respectfull - UNTILL NOW... Now that you are making attacks on a religion, it may well be deleted... So choose your words wisely - and don't insult anybody, Christian, Muslim, Jew or Alevi, Êzidî or whatever else...

My point with:

Using anti-Islamic sites to find the "truth" about Islam, is like going to a Turk to find the "truth" about Zazaistan and Kurdistan....


Was:

IF you CARE about what Islam REALY says and REALY means - then you can research yourself. First of all READ the QURAN and THEN you can come here and make allegations based on FACTS instead of hearsay...

My point was: If everybody should just believe whatever the Turks say about the Kurds and Zazas on the internet, then that wouldn't be fair - would it? Don't you agree that they should also speak to Kurds and Zazas to find out how they feel? Or what they mean?

I'm sure you understand, that religion is a sensitive issue, and must not be treated with disrespect - especially by people who don't belong to the religion they criticise...
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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: Jamo » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:40 pm

First of all, you are talking about RELGION here, not something wordly or profane... It's a BELIEF - and maybe for YOU there are "errors" - but for others there are not... And everybodt is entitled to RESPECT for their beliefs... I have not yet LOCKED and DELETED this topic because it was respectfull - UNTILL NOW... Now that you are making attacks on a religion, it may well be deleted... So choose your words wisely - and don't insult anybody, Christian, Muslim, Jew or Alevi, Êzidî or whatever else...


I guess there is no speech of freedom in roj bash forum. I just write what I think. That information is totally true. I'm not telling you guys not to talk bad about Alevis or anyother religion. I'm sure we have errrors too. Everyone should be free to discuss about religions. Find the good parts and bad parts of it. We all should research our religion before saying it's perfect.

Why do you want to delete my article? I didn't attack you personally. I just wrote what is also written in Qu'ran :?

We are welcome criticize everything but never religion??? :shock:

Would you like it if I would attack Kurds instead of Islam?
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Re: Looking for the follow Sures from islam.

PostAuthor: Diri » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:21 pm

Jamo wrote:
First of all, you are talking about RELGION here, not something wordly or profane... It's a BELIEF - and maybe for YOU there are "errors" - but for others there are not... And everybodt is entitled to RESPECT for their beliefs... I have not yet LOCKED and DELETED this topic because it was respectfull - UNTILL NOW... Now that you are making attacks on a religion, it may well be deleted... So choose your words wisely - and don't insult anybody, Christian, Muslim, Jew or Alevi, Êzidî or whatever else...


I guess there is no speech of freedom in roj bash forum. I just write what I think. That information is totally true. I'm not telling you guys not to talk bad about Alevis or anyother religion. I'm sure we have errrors too. Everyone should be free to discuss about religions. Find the good parts and bad parts of it. We all should research our religion before saying it's perfect.

Why do you want to delete my article? I didn't attack you personally. I just wrote what is also written in Qu'ran :?

We are welcome criticize everything but never religion??? :shock:

Would you like it if I would attack Kurds instead of Islam?



From all the things I wrote, this is what you understood? If so, then please buy a pair of reading glasses... :wink:

I will not delete anything...

I am just making something clear as crystal here: Everybody is free to believe whatever they like. Religion is a sensitive issue and you must respect other people's feelings and beliefs.

This IS a free forum, but you forget that FREEDOM is not a RIGHT it is a PRIVILAGE - and as with ALL privilages: there is RESPONSIBILITY.

You can't say EVERYTHING you want to say. SORRY. But saying things like: "Bible has also some mistakes but not as much as the book of Arab." or "(Holly Book of Arabs)"

Is OFFENSIVE... Yes: OFFENSIVE...

You don't have respect for people when you say that - and it's not gonna be tolerated. So clean your act.

If you want to CRITICISE, go ahead... Criticism does NOT involve insulting people - but constructive words and sentences - which are not hateful or incite or provoke people by their mere utterance...

So you mean we all should respect Islam totally and never criticize or question it???


Saying: "Bible has also some mistakes but not as much as the book of Arab." or "(Holly Book of Arabs)" - is not criticism...

It's you swearing at the Quran...

Get it?

If not - then I suggest you stop discussing religion... :lol:
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