how to become christian?

[red wolf]

i have heard that jehovas wittness says there only be 250 000 in paradise how does come

[Diri]

Lorri (Albasaab) I have a question for you...

Do you (Jehova's witness) believe Jesus (p.b.u.h.) was only a Prophet like we do in Islam, or - what DO you believe about Jesus?

No, I believe that Jesus was the last "prophet", because the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation speaks about his arrival, on Earth, as a human, AND as the warrior who will do God's will at the appointed time. (Armageddon). What I can never understand is: If Muslims believe in all the prophets of the Bible; why don't they believe that they ALL said they were waiting for the Messiah, which was Jesus, as far as the Bible is concerned?

Please excuse me if I don't reply straight away; my daughter has come to see me.

No... See that is where you are wrong... Then who is the OTHER "person" Jesus(pbuh) talks about of "to come and bring you the laws of God"? That is Prophet Mohammed(pbuh)...

The Bible has been edited not just a couple of times... Maybe a billion times... Are we to believe it litterally when we know it's been edited?

[AlbaSaab]

Lorri (Albasaab) I have a question for you...

Do you (Jehova's witness) believe Jesus (p.b.u.h.) was only a Prophet like we do in Islam, or - what DO you believe about Jesus?

No, I believe that Jesus was the last "prophet", because the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation speaks about his arrival, on Earth, as a human, AND as the warrior who will do God's will at the appointed time. (Armageddon). What I can never understand is: If Muslims believe in all the prophets of the Bible; why don't they believe that they ALL said they were waiting for the Messiah, which was Jesus, as far as the Bible is concerned?

Please excuse me if I don't reply straight away; my daughter has come to see me.

No... See that is where you are wrong... Then who is the OTHER "person" Jesus(pbuh) talks about of "to come and bring you the laws of God"? That is Prophet Mohammed(pbuh)...

The Bible has been edited not just a couple of times... Maybe a billion times... Are we to believe it litterally when we know it's been edited?

That's where I'm wrong??? Prove that it's been edited. Prove that the Qu'ran hasn't!! Also; tell me where: "to come and bring you the laws of God," is, and I may be able to answer your question. BUT.....Then again, I might not. . .

[red wolf]

because in the bible you will find things that not logical . we muzlims respects the holy bible its God scripts to mankind but unfortuneley the scripts has been edited by big priests. and better science.

one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´

the prophet jesus ,,peace be wit him,,, learned out islam and there are no god then Allah

[AlbaSaab]

i have heard that jehovas wittness says there only be 250 000 in paradise how does come

Where did you hear that???

[AlbaSaab]

because in the bible you will find things that not logical . we muzlims respects the holy bible its God scripts to mankind but unfortuneley the scripts has been edited by big priests. and better science.

one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´

the prophet jesus ,,peace be wit him,,, learned out islam and there are no god then Allah

As I said previously; if you believe that the Bible is God's word; why do you not take it all, instead of the bits that fit how you want it to fit?

"one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't understand that. Could you explain please. Is it "mathematic equation"?

[Diri]

because in the bible you will find things that not logical . we muzlims respects the holy bible its God scripts to mankind but unfortuneley the scripts has been edited by big priests. and better science.

one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´

the prophet jesus ,,peace be wit him,,, learned out islam and there are no god then Allah

As I said previously; if you believe that the Bible is God's word; why do you not take it all, instead of the bits that fit how you want it to fit?

"one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't understand that. Could you explain please. Is it "mathematic equation"?

Who said the Bible is Gods words?

We never said anything like that... Muslims don't believe in the Bible... The Quran is the Word of God... Not the Bible or Torah... Those two were written down by humans... The Quran's miracle is that it has existed for all time - as the norm of Gods law for humans... But it was only when Mohammed (pbuh) came that God revealed it in written form to humans...

As you know too, the Bible doesn't claim to be written by God... It was written down by the apostlese, Paulus etc... But the Quran is God's gift to mankind...

(Ps. Don't take what I say as facts - they are facts for a believer of Islam... But known as "theology of Islam" to non-Muslims)...

[womanizer]

@DIRI
I know you Muslim I respect that, but your concept and explain of kuran as word of God, dosnet bring any signature from god at all, that proves is word of GOD.
The believer always convince that his religion his massager is only one. And that is whole mistake, I can prove to you that if you saying bible has been edited, what make so sure (let assume Koran is from god) that koran has been edited, please read Islam history very carefully,
According to Islam sources and history in Islamic perspective Koran was put in script after muhmemed die, and only thosewho remembered,which means those peoples had no reading and writing.and most those peoples was blind and poor and very sympathy and emotional to Muhemed ,Even that is true, it legitimism of book is under questions.??? It far from logic and I am sure even is true it has been edited(although 0 don’t blive it it is from GOD).anyway I don’t want deep go, but we shall simply accept, that everyone gods and messengers are equal( which means if Islam is from god and Mohamed is only one..then Jesus also is only one) if arabs only thinking they got it right and all other religion is wrong than is called religion fascism, is fantasy and ignorance that would never will be accept it.

Also more importantly whether bible is right or wrong, I proud of it I love it ( however I am not Christian) but bible tell history and bravery of Medes(Kurdish) children thought out Bible, in chapter 14 and 15 clearly say, about glory of Kurdish race. God Blass Jesus which has note it us in his book, I love Jesus

[Diri]

@DIRI
I know you Muslim I respect that, but your concept and explain of kuran as word of God, dosnet bring any signature from god at all, that proves is word of GOD.
The believer always convince that his religion his massager is only one. And that is whole mistake, I can prove to you that if you saying bible has been edited, what make so sure (let assume Koran is from god) that koran has been edited, please read Islam history very carefully,
According to Islam sources and history in Islamic perspective Koran was put in script after muhmemed die, and only thosewho remembered,which means those peoples had no reading and writing.and most those peoples was blind and poor and very sympathy and emotional to Muhemed ,Even that is true, it legitimism of book is under questions.??? It far from logic and I am sure even is true it has been edited(although 0 don’t blive it it is from GOD).anyway I don’t want deep go, but we shall simply accept, that everyone gods and messengers are equal( which means if Islam is from god and Mohamed is only one..then Jesus also is only one) if arabs only thinking they got it right and all other religion is wrong than is called religion fascism, is fantasy and ignorance that would never will be accept it.

Also more importantly whether bible is right or wrong, I proud of it I love it ( however I am not Christian) but bible tell history and bravery of Medes(Kurdish) children thought out Bible, in chapter 14 and 15 clearly say, about glory of Kurdish race. God Blass Jesus which has note it us in his book, I love Jesus

Womanizer... Read my words:

(Ps. Don't take what I say as facts - they are facts for a believer of Islam... But known as "theology of Islam" to non-Muslims)...

Period.

[womanizer]

ok!!
but i dont think so arabs thinking like that maybe kurdish muslim?
what is peroid???

[AlbaSaab]

because in the bible you will find things that not logical . we muzlims respects the holy bible its God scripts to mankind but unfortuneley the scripts has been edited by big priests. and better science.

one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´

the prophet jesus ,,peace be wit him,,, learned out islam and there are no god then Allah

As I said previously; if you believe that the Bible is God's word; why do you not take it all, instead of the bits that fit how you want it to fit?

"one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't understand that. Could you explain please. Is it "mathematic equation"?

Who said the Bible is Gods words?

We never said anything like that... Muslims don't believe in the Bible... The Quran is the Word of God... Not the Bible or Torah... Those two were written down by humans... The Quran's miracle is that it has existed for all time - as the norm of Gods law for humans... But it was only when Mohammed (pbuh) came that God revealed it in written form to humans...

As you know too, the Bible doesn't claim to be written by God... It was written down by the apostlese, Paulus etc... But the Quran is God's gift to mankind...

(Ps. Don't take what I say as facts - they are facts for a believer of Islam... But known as "theology of Islam" to non-Muslims)...

I think your tolerance level for other religions is quite low. I could point out your mistakes in your post, but I am NOT going to argue about who's book is the truth, because we all believe that our own is.

[AlbaSaab]

because in the bible you will find things that not logical . we muzlims respects the holy bible its God scripts to mankind but unfortuneley the scripts has been edited by big priests. and better science.

one of the truths that makes the holu quran is its matematich ekvation ´

the prophet jesus ,,peace be wit him,,, learned out islam and there are no god then Allah

Well, Diri's saying that the Bible ISN'T God's words!!! I really would love to know where you get your so called facts from!!

[AlbaSaab]

@DIRI
I know you Muslim I respect that, but your concept and explain of kuran as word of God, dosnet bring any signature from god at all, that proves is word of GOD.
The believer always convince that his religion his massager is only one. And that is whole mistake, I can prove to you that if you saying bible has been edited, what make so sure (let assume Koran is from god) that koran has been edited, please read Islam history very carefully,
According to Islam sources and history in Islamic perspective Koran was put in script after muhmemed die, and only thosewho remembered,which means those peoples had no reading and writing.and most those peoples was blind and poor and very sympathy and emotional to Muhemed ,Even that is true, it legitimism of book is under questions.??? It far from logic and I am sure even is true it has been edited(although 0 don’t blive it it is from GOD).anyway I don’t want deep go, but we shall simply accept, that everyone gods and messengers are equal( which means if Islam is from god and Mohamed is only one..then Jesus also is only one) if arabs only thinking they got it right and all other religion is wrong than is called religion fascism, is fantasy and ignorance that would never will be accept it.

Also more importantly whether bible is right or wrong, I proud of it I love it ( however I am not Christian) but bible tell history and bravery of Medes(Kurdish) children thought out Bible, in chapter 14 and 15 clearly say, about glory of Kurdish race. God Blass Jesus which has note it us in his book, I love Jesus

Well said.

[Diri]

What you all need to be aware of:

Muslims believe in Quran
Christians believe in Bible
Jews believe in Torah


I am not like Lorri said, an intolerant person (I am the last person on earth worthy of that word) towards any religion or culture.

What I said in my last sentence is very important:

(Ps. Don't take what I say as facts - they are facts for a believer of Islam... But known as "theology of Islam" to non-Muslims)...

This shows that I wasn't trying to say "I am right, you are wrong" - I was merely pointing out the MUSLIM stance - which then lead Lorri to call me an intolerant person... Sadly... Probably because she didn't reflect on those words:


"(Ps. Don't take what I say as facts - they are facts for a believer of Islam... But known as "theology of Islam" to non-Muslims)..."

I don't say Islam is based on facts... It's not... It's faith... And I was only telling you, Lorri, what Muslims believe about the Bible and the Quran...

Ps. Womanizer "Period" = .

[Diri]

@DIRI
I know you Muslim I respect that, but your concept and explain of kuran as word of God, dosnet bring any signature from god at all, that proves is word of GOD.
The believer always convince that his religion his massager is only one. And that is whole mistake, I can prove to you that if you saying bible has been edited, what make so sure (let assume Koran is from god) that koran has been edited, please read Islam history very carefully,
According to Islam sources and history in Islamic perspective Koran was put in script after muhmemed die, and only thosewho remembered,which means those peoples had no reading and writing.and most those peoples was blind and poor and very sympathy and emotional to Muhemed ,Even that is true, it legitimism of book is under questions.??? It far from logic and I am sure even is true it has been edited(although 0 don’t blive it it is from GOD).anyway I don’t want deep go, but we shall simply accept, that everyone gods and messengers are equal( which means if Islam is from god and Mohamed is only one..then Jesus also is only one) if arabs only thinking they got it right and all other religion is wrong than is called religion fascism, is fantasy and ignorance that would never will be accept it.

Also more importantly whether bible is right or wrong, I proud of it I love it ( however I am not Christian) but bible tell history and bravery of Medes(Kurdish) children thought out Bible, in chapter 14 and 15 clearly say, about glory of Kurdish race. God Blass Jesus which has note it us in his book, I love Jesus

Well said.

ALL Religions say they are right... So then every religion is "religion fascism"...