The migration of the Indo-European Peoples

[thesunchild]

Very interesting article written by Ukrainian fellas, very nice reading.

I like this passage in the article the most. Especially how he mentions the proto-Kurds and how they Aryanised some folks in Europe and Central Asia:

"Examples of Baltic names here might be such: Kekishevka, Kremna, Latashi, Nerch, Tnya, the shade, and others. However, it is likely to assume that Anglo-Saxons were pushed not by the Balts, by the bands of the ancient Kurds, which having left their Urheimat, came down along the Desna till the Dnieper, crossed it and moved westward. This assumption is compelled by the presence of the place names of Kurdish origin in the Kiev and Zhitomir Regions, examples of which may be the names of settlements Avratin, Berdychev, Byshev, Devoshin Kichkiri, Naraevka and others. Since main portion of the Kurdish place names is located even further in the Khmelnytsky and Ternopil Regions, we must assume that only a small part of the Kurds stopped en route to the west, dwelling intermingled with the Balts which migrated here from the left bank of the Pripyat river."

http://www.v-stetsyuk.name/en/Iron/Migration.html

[jjmuneer]

Sorry I don't understand the artcle, but is it trying to say we are of Slavic origins?

[thesunchild]

Sorry I don't understand the artcle, but is it trying to say we are of Slavic origins?

No as far as I do understand it says that Slavs have Kurdish blood (Iranic, Aryan) pumping through their heart!

[jjmuneer]

Sorry I don't understand the artcle, but is it trying to say we are of Slavic origins?

No as far as I do understand it says that Slavs have Kurdish blood (Iranic, Aryan) pumping through their heart!

Lol trust me thats rubbish that some Pan-iranists come up with,I know first hand. Yes Slavs and Iranic tribes were in a coalition and were akin racially to an extent. Genetically Slavs having Iranic blood isn't proven. Maybe Bulgarians since the Bulgars were Iranic, but thats it I think. R1a doesn't equate Slavic or Iranic, its IE.Thats all I know, Kurdistano or Azamat probably know more.

[thesunchild]

Sorry I don't understand the artcle, but is it trying to say we are of Slavic origins?

No as far as I do understand it says that Slavs have Kurdish blood (Iranic, Aryan) pumping through their heart!

Lol trust me thats rubbish that some Pan-iranists come up with,I know first hand. Yes Slavs and Iranic tribes were in a coalition and were akin racially to an extent. Genetically Slavs having Iranic blood isn't proven. Maybe Bulgarians since the Bulgars were Iranic, but thats it I think. R1a doesn't equate Slavic or Iranic, its IE.Thats all I know, Kurdistano or Azamat probably know more.

I'm not talking about their genetics of nowadays but about their ancient connection to the Kurds/Aryans. That we Kurds 'Aryanised' parts of Europe (and Central Asia) in the past.

PS. According to me J2a (with some sub clades of J* & G*) is a pure Kurdish (Aryan) haplogroup!

[jjmuneer]

What do you mean ancient connection to Kurds? You said they have Iranic blood pumping in their heart, surely that would incline genetics, what else possible would it mean?
J2a and G2a are both native caucasian, but yes J2 developed in Kurdistan. The Iranic tribes probably mostly carried R1a and I2, but due to mixing that has changed amongst modern day Kurds. Also J2a in eastern europe is very low, probably only in Bulgaria which is technically south eastern europe has the highest amount.

[thesunchild]

What do you mean ancient connection to Kurds? You said they have Iranic blood pumping in their heart, surely that would incline genetics, what else possible would it mean?
J2a and G2a are both native caucasian, but yes J2 developed in Kurdistan. The Iranic tribes probably mostly carried R1a and I2, but due to mixing that has changed amongst modern day Kurds. Also J2a in eastern europe is very low, probably only in Bulgaria which is technically south eastern europe has the highest amount.

The thing is that Europeans only have very little of ARYAN DNA in them, and that's because proto-Kurdish Aryans moved up to some parts of Europe and Aryanised some areas. Europeans are native to Europe. Aryan DNA in Europe almost disappeared due to mixing with the majority of native locals with non-Aryan but native European DNA.

Europeans have some (very little) Aryan DNA blood pumping through their heart from the proto-Kurds that migrated into Europe in the past! This is ancient connection I'm talking about.

[jjmuneer]

What do you mean ancient connection to Kurds? You said they have Iranic blood pumping in their heart, surely that would incline genetics, what else possible would it mean?
J2a and G2a are both native caucasian, but yes J2 developed in Kurdistan. The Iranic tribes probably mostly carried R1a and I2, but due to mixing that has changed amongst modern day Kurds. Also J2a in eastern europe is very low, probably only in Bulgaria which is technically south eastern europe has the highest amount.

The thing is that Europeans only have very little of ARYAN DNA in them, and that's because proto-Kurdish Aryans moved up to some parts of Europe and Aryanised some areas. Europeans are native to Europe. Aryan DNA in Europe almost disappeared due to mixing with the majority of native locals with non-Aryan but native European DNA.

Europeans have some (very little) Aryan DNA blood pumping through their heart due to proto-Kurds!

Stop using the word Aryan, your really mixing things up. Proto-Kurds were probably not even Indo-european, they were most likely native caucasian (Hurrians). If by Aryan you mean Indo-european, then R1a is the highest in Eastern europe and North west India. Even amongst Kurds and North Iranians it is farely high. It was most likely we Kurds Aryanized modern day Kurdistan or our ancestors were aryanized by our Iranic ancestors. Heres a Y-dna map from wiki probably most accurate in my opinion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group

[thesunchild]

What do you mean ancient connection to Kurds? You said they have Iranic blood pumping in their heart, surely that would incline genetics, what else possible would it mean?
J2a and G2a are both native caucasian, but yes J2 developed in Kurdistan. The Iranic tribes probably mostly carried R1a and I2, but due to mixing that has changed amongst modern day Kurds. Also J2a in eastern europe is very low, probably only in Bulgaria which is technically south eastern europe has the highest amount.

The thing is that Europeans only have very little of ARYAN DNA in them, and that's because proto-Kurdish Aryans moved up to some parts of Europe and Aryanised some areas. Europeans are native to Europe. Aryan DNA in Europe almost disappeared due to mixing with the majority of native locals with non-Aryan but native European DNA.

Europeans have some (very little) Aryan DNA blood pumping through their heart due to proto-Kurds!

Stop using the word Aryan, your really mixing things up. Proto-Kurds were probably not even Indo-european, they were most likely native caucasian (Hurrians). If by Aryan you mean Indo-european, then R1a is the highest in Eastern europe and North west India. Even amongst Kurds and North Iranians it is farely high. It was most likely we Kurds Aryanized modern day Kurdistan or our ancestors were aryanized by our Iranic ancestors. Heres a Y-dna map from wiki probably most accurate in my opinion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group

But the so called Hurrians were actually proto-Aryans and ancestors of the modern Kurds!

[thesunchild]

Kurdish place names in the Ukrain. This is a very long list:

http://www.v-stetsyuk.name/en/Topo/Iran.html