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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:36 am

Kurds were warrior people? Turks were warrior at that times too. Infact all nations were warrior at that times. It totally means nothing.


Did turks exist back then?

Kurds were known as warriors, not just warriors.

Just like the spartans, everybody could be a warrior, but being known as a warrior means all.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:12 am

zurderer wrote:Kurds were warrior people? Turks were warrior at that times too. Infact all nations were warrior at that times. It totally means nothing.


There are many theories about the word "Kurd" - obviously... Kurds have always been splendid warriors - and the Meds and Persians, when arriving todays Iran - encountered the Kurds... Before the Iranic peoples came (Meds, Persians, Parthians, Scythians etc,) the Kurds were in Kurdistan - and known as Guti, by some, as Kardoch by some etc...

So when the Iranic peoples came and encountered the Kurds, they were obviously very impressed by their military skills - because their name, "Kurd" still to this day, means "Pehlewan" in Persian in the form of "Gord"...

So yes, every people was a "warrior people" - but not many were as famous as the KURDS for their bravery...
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:20 am

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Diri wrote:The Sumerians wrote about the warrior people: Kurds in northern Mesopotamia in 3000 BC... So that is 5000 years ago...

We've been there are a people for so long... And even longer probably...

Babel is in Kurdistan... It's near to Xarpût in Northern Kurdistan - on the eastern banks of the Euphrates...

Kurds are racial a mix of many different peoples - but we are mainly of Hurrian culture and of Median language...

We are simply Kurdistanî... 8) Not Asian and not European...


Northern mesopotamia? do they mean the cities or the mountains?


It is well known, that the proto-Kurds hardly ever went beyond the mountains... Under the Hurrian cultural expansion, they spread all the way to the low lands...

Mesopotamia is not only the lowlands in todays Iraq... It is also the mountains in Kurdistan... Northern Kurdistan mostly - but also large parts of Southern Kurdistan...

Hence the reason, why there is a Kurdish TV channel with the name: Mezopotamiya... :) Because it's northern parts are in Kurdistan...
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:26 am

Kurds were known as warriors, not just warriors.


Now, who know kurds as special warriors?
So yes, every people was a "warrior people" - but not many were as famous as the KURDS for their bravery...


Funny. You are masturbating yourself. Which nation called kurds as WARRIORS. Ehmmm, except kurds.

You are trying to create a history from dusts. It wont work much. It did not worked for Turks.

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PostAuthor: Balci » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:32 am

Well, there is an difference between armies/soldiers and warriors/tribal warriors.

Every nation got a army, of course, and according to you zurd, every nation with a army or ''warriors'' can be called militaristic, anyways, We Kurds did live in tribes, where the culture was centralized around being a warrior, and live as a warrior.

Norwegian Vikings, Japanese Ronin Samurai's etc. are warrior classes with similar culture as us, from when you were born, you were teached in the ways of the warrior, and not just serve in a army as an adult, and quit it after some years.

You may get the point now.
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:17 pm

We Kurds did live in tribes,


wow, how much different than other nations. Only Kurds have tribes.
:lol:

still, you did not show me which nation call kurds as Warriors. I am not aware of militaristic nature of Kurds. It is also funny, Kurds never show their ability at past.

tell me some kurdish campaing, which kurds show their warrior sprit.

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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:30 pm

zurderer wrote:
We Kurds did live in tribes,


wow, how much different than other nations. Only Kurds have tribes.
:lol:

still, you did not show me which nation call kurds as Warriors. I am not aware of militaristic nature of Kurds. It is also funny, Kurds never show their ability at past.

tell me some kurdish campaing, which kurds show their warrior sprit.


PKK = farmers who team up together and win military trained soldiers who have better equipment 50% percent women

PJAK = farmers who team up together and win military trained soldiers who have better equipment 50% women

KDP = farmers who..... stopped armies of saddam hussein

Kurds are known for their guerilla warfare.
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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:46 pm

Funny. You are masturbating yourself. Which nation called kurds as WARRIORS. Ehmmm, except kurds.


1. Persians

2. Greeks

3. Why do you use bad language?
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PostAuthor: Balci » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:17 pm

zurderer wrote:
We Kurds did live in tribes,


wow, how much different than other nations. Only Kurds have tribes.
:lol:

still, you did not show me which nation call kurds as Warriors. I am not aware of militaristic nature of Kurds. It is also funny, Kurds never show their ability at past.

tell me some kurdish campaing, which kurds show their warrior sprit.


if k4l did not respond, I would've said the same, and yes

Tribes - Warriors - Guerilla

Nation - Soldiers - Soldiers

still not understanding ?

Edit:

How come Kurds suck at gerila, when the kill ratio between Turkey and PKK both is 30k-30k ? Turkey got state-of-art weapons and arsenal, and we got Kalashnikovs, from the mid-50's.
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:21 pm

Persian? Greeks? are they aware of this?huh?

I am not using bad langauge, I am telling what are you doing.

PKK = farmers who team up together and win military trained soldiers who have better equipment 50% percent women


win? Killing civilians dont count as win.

PJAK = farmers who team up together and win military trained soldiers who have better equipment 50% women


did they build their country?
KDP = farmers who..... stopped armies of saddam hussein


Eh, just dont forget nato and USA help. Without them, there wont stay any kurd at iraq.

Kurds are known for their guerilla warfare.


Hmm, who know? Kurds?

You are talking like best fighters of world, bad part world is not aware of it.

It is funny, nationalist are always same. Just dreams and lies.

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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:21 pm

Balci wrote:
zurderer wrote:
We Kurds did live in tribes,


wow, how much different than other nations. Only Kurds have tribes.
:lol:

still, you did not show me which nation call kurds as Warriors. I am not aware of militaristic nature of Kurds. It is also funny, Kurds never show their ability at past.

tell me some kurdish campaing, which kurds show their warrior sprit.


if k4l did not respond, I would've said the same, and yes

Tribes - Warriors - Guerilla

Nation - Soldiers - Soldiers

still not understanding ?


Once a guerilla, always a guerilla
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PostAuthor: Balci » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:27 pm

zurderer wrote:Persian? Greeks? are they aware of this?huh?

I am not using bad langauge, I am telling what are you doing.

PKK = farmers who team up together and win military trained soldiers who have better equipment 50% percent women


win? Killing civilians dont count as win.

PJAK = farmers who team up together and win military trained soldiers who have better equipment 50% women


did they build their country?
KDP = farmers who..... stopped armies of saddam hussein


Eh, just dont forget nato and USA help. Without them, there wont stay any kurd at iraq.

Kurds are known for their guerilla warfare.


Hmm, who know? Kurds?

You are talking like best fighters of world, bad part world is not aware of it.

It is funny, nationalist are always same. Just dreams and lies.


Now you are shitting out bullshit again, typical, we are not the best, but we are GOOD, and we are WARRIORS, not soldiers.

''win? Killing civilians dont count as win. ''

when did Civilians start ridin' helicopters ?
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PostAuthor: zurderer » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:32 pm

you are nationalist nothing more other wise history would talk success of kurds.

It is funny, there are a lot nation who have much better military and militaristic history, but you claim you are warriors.

Whatever, If you want, I salute you warriors.
8)

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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:32 pm

zurderer wrote:I am not using bad langauge, I am telling what are you doing.


What makes you think he wants to know.?

win? Killing civilians dont count as win.


turkish army has over 300.000 soldiers there while pkk are like 30.000 still they used to take over their loss on the people

did they build their country?

I said they whiped the floor with irans armies i didnt mention building anything.

Eh, just dont forget nato and USA help. Without them, there wont stay any kurd at iraq.


Again I did Not say their what made KRG and i did Not say nato and usa didnt help.

Hmm, who know? Kurds?

You are talking like best fighters of world, bad part world is not aware of it.

It is funny, nationalist are always same. Just dreams and lies.


We are the best fighters of the world. And how should the rest of the world know? You think it stands on the front page on the news papers??

"Kurds, best fighters in the world"
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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:35 pm

zurderer wrote:you are nationalist nothing more other wise history would talk success of kurds.

It is funny, there are a lot nation who have much better military and militaristic history, but you claim you are warriors.

Whatever, If you want, I salute you warriors.
8)


So you think their just random warriors who fights just like everyone else?

With 50% women, and trash equipment and being 10 times lower than the enemy, still being a threat?

Call me nationalist i dont care but to me, the kurds will always be warriors, i dont care about "being warrior people officially" i dont care what the rest of the world thinks. Whats important is what i think.

In finland its the same, at the winter war, the finnish people won sovjet. They had 10 times less soldiers, equipment from 1 century ago and their a small country, while sovjet were used to war with other countries and they were a threat to the united states.

They see themselves as brave warriors, but are they known as warriors officially? no. do they care? no, aslong as their proud over themselves
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