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PostAuthor: Barış » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:25 am

Kulka wrote:i will never "feel free" here any more, i got my lesson, i dont want to get hurt agan.

Ya don't think others have been hurt when they share their differing opinions!? Everyone gets hurt, some even more than others. Life can be realy rough! I actualy lost 38 friends because I changed my political views. They think think I'm a traitor! What I went though is child's play maybe compared with what others go through in some countries for having different political views, such as prison, torture etc...
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PostAuthor: bleu ciel » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:00 am

Kulka wrote:coz i cant ignore all of you, let me to answer.
Sus xan - i am very strong with my enemies, but if someone who is my brother - that means close to me heart - hurts me - i am totally weak and helpless, coz i can easy fight with the enemy, but i cant fight with brother.
kak talsor - i will be very happy if any of you come to my house. also i would like to ask you - dont say "idiot", coz that person is kurd, one of us, even if making mistake, still one of us.
kak londoner - i dont feel good if someone point to me - you are not kurdish, coz you wasnt born as kurdish, you dont know kurdish history etc.
i support PKK, from me not because of political reasons - although everything might be qualified as "political" reasons. but, yes, i support them with all my heart, and i dont care to be consider as terrorist because of that - I DONT CARE. PKK is not the "political party" for me - they are just brave people who chose to live in extreme hard conditions, in mountains, specially during winter time, coz they belive in something - i dont think they doing that for money. any of you - think now - how much money someone should pay you to make you do that - sleep in the snow, wash yourself in freezing water, have no home, no family, anything. i will not do that for any price. only for love. as - i believe - they do.
i am who i am , i am doing what i am doing - not for anyone - i am honest with myslef, and thats enough for me. coz nobody see black ribbon on kurdish flag in my room on 16th march, nobody see me crying for kurdistan in privacy of my room.
if i dont know kurdish history - i can still learn it. if i dont know kurdish languge - i can still learn it. but i dont have to learn my feelings for kurdistan - and anybody can learn that. you cant learn, you must have. i never call kurdistan - Iraq, turkya or anything. never. and i am proud of that. when this indian guy in my factory made bad comments on kurdish and i complain to managers, one of them said to the other: someone is making racist comments on iraqi people. and when i hear that, i said - ON KURDISH PEOPLE.
i learn one thing now - not to show true feelings, not to trust anyone. coz i was opened in front of people whom i love and respect and i learned that my "kurdishness" is a kind of funny. maybe. since now i will keep everything within my heart. no point to show it outside, coz its the best way to get hurt.
kak aram and kak talsor - if you can do that for our country, forgive each other and apologize each other for bad words you said some time ago to each other. i still cant forget it. its only dirty politisc - you both are better than that.
my life is hard enough, i am very tired.
hichi tr


dear Kulka
Please do no leave here. :( I am totally no relation or connection with Kurdish, you know I am korean, but I love this forum and I 've always admired your pure passion for Kurd and thanked about there's someone who loves kurds that much.
I aways enjoy reading your writings.. I hope that I have this luck to read your writings for a long time.
have a good day.. kulka

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PostAuthor: BC2000 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:18 am

Oh Jesus christ... Kulka! Stay, because I'm going to erase my account now. By the time you'll read this. I'm gone from this site. And I'm not going to make a thread about and shit.

If you truly believe I said those things you're accusing me of, then read once again what I wrote. This is what I mean that you're twisting words! Because I'm not leaving without people knowing exactly what I said.

Kulka. I'm going to sound judgemental right now, but since you're not born Kurdish, you have this urge to over compensate your "Kurdishness". Which I don't find as a bad thing. But you have to understand that not everything about Kurdistan is all good just because you happened to love it so much. There's a billion things that can be better with Kurdistan and as a Kurd it's my democratic right to speak about those things that is holding us back.


And...

Sorani might not be my forte, but you know what? Compared to you and Bejoo, I atleast know Kurdish history in a very objective way. And I teach and discuss it (even though I get resistance from this forum) to everyone who has an open mind. I don't bend the truth, I don't add my own flavour to it, I just simply re-tell it as it is. Obviously you chose to exclude your self from that group, that's fine to me. I can't blame you for being mesmirized by all this over whelming Kurdishness. But I'm sorry, you're not enlighted enough when it comes to what's going on in Kurdistan on a political level.


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4973 The link to the thread where it all started.

And this is according to you that I said you can never be Kurdish because you weren't born Kurdish? I had enough of this place.


Xwahafiz'tanbe!

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PostAuthor: Kulka » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:46 am

I DIDNT ACCUSE YOU KAK BC, I JUST GAVE EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME PEOPLE SAY. SOME PEOPLE SAY I AM NOT KURDISH, COZ I WASNT BORN KURDISH - NOT YOU, YOU ONLY REMINDED ME ABOUT IT - WHAT AT THE OTHER HAND WAS VERY "NICE" OF YOU. YOU ARE RIGHT, I PUT ALL IN ONE LINE, IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE TWISTING YOUR WORDS. NO, YOU NEVER SAY I AM NOT KURDISH. BUT WHERE IN MY POST I WROTE THAT THIS PERSON (YOU) SAID THIS AND THAT? WHOSE WORDS I AM TWISTING THEN?
BY THE WAY - HOW COME THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE LEVEL AND WAY OF KURDISH HISTORY KNOWLEDGE WHICH KAK BEJOO HAS (OR EVEN ME?), WHY YOU THINK YOU KNOW THAT BETTER AND MORE "OBJECTIVE" THAN ANYONE ELSE? WHY YOU THINK ANOYONE IS OR ISNT NOT "ENLIGHTED" ENOUGH?
AND ONE MORE QUESTION - WHO IS SO OPEN MINDED, IF YOU DONT ACCEPT PISC WITH PERSONS OR THINGS THAT SOMEONE MAY LIKE. DO YOU KNOW THAT IN KURDISH NATION THERE ARE POEPLE WHO ARE IN SOME WAY RELATED TO BARZANI AND TALABANI - AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT, DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO LIKE THEM AND TO ENJOY PISC OF THEM ON DEMOCRATIC FORUM. SPECIALLY IF KAK BEJOO PUT ALSO OTHER PICS, NOT ONLY THIS "POLITICAL INCORRECT". BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR POSTS - YOUR CRITIC WAS TOWARD EVERYTHING - EAGLE, GIRL AND EVEN BURNING KURDISH FLAG.
IF I WILL PUT THE PICS WITH PEACOCK ANGEL MELEK - SHOULD MY MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH BROTHERS BE UPSET? FEELINGS ARE VERY FUNNY THING - EVEN IF THESE POLITICIANS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DID SOMETHING WRONG, SOME PEOPLE MAY STILL LOVE THEM AND I WILL NEVE BLAME THEM FOR THIS. ONE HEWLERI BOY DID TO ME WHAT ONE HUMAN SHOULDNT DO TO OTHER HUMAN, I STILL LOVED HIM FOR TOO LONG TIME, EVEN IF I KNOW HE COMPLETLY NOT RIGHT, HONEST AND NOT JUST PERSON.
YOUR WORDS, KAK BC - "Try to make it less party political." "I ment that you can do more neutral posters" - WHY? IF HE LIKES TO SHARE HIS FEELINGS AND OPINIONS IN THAT WAY - HE HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. SPECIALLY IN THE PART OF FORUM WHICH IS CALLED "POLITICS" (NOT "ARTS").
YOUR WORDS - I ment that you can do more neutral posters that reaches out to every Kurd instead of doing art that divides us into parties. - MY DEAR BROTHER, DO YOU REALLY THING THAT PICS CAN DIVIDE PEOPLE INTO PARTIES? KURDISH NATION IS ALREADY DEVIDED, TOO LATE. AND I DONT THINK ANY PICS CAN MAKE IT WORSE OR BETTER.
AT THE END - YOU TRY TO BLAME ME NOW THAT YOU LEAVING FROM HERE, ALSO VERY NICE OF YOU. I AM ONLY WONDERING WHY YOU DOING THAT? AND NOW I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHY SOMETHING LIKE THAT HURTS ME. COZ ITS BETTER TO BE PUT IN PRISON BY ENEMIES, KAK BARIS, THAN TO ARGUE WITH ONE FROM THE NATION, WHICH MEANS EVERYTHING FOR ME.
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PostAuthor: Kulka » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:50 am

AND - you exactly know, that nobody let you to leave from here. there kurdish people here and those who love kurdistan - these people dont let you to leave - they are like that, different than anyone else in the world.
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PostAuthor: Ryder188 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:15 pm

I agree with you Kulka :D
btw what is that animal in your picture?:P

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PostAuthor: Kulka » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:36 pm

I think is baby bear
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PostAuthor: Barış » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:18 am

Yea, the more I think about it, I agree with ya, Kulka xan.
I'm glad ya decided to stick around. :D
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PostAuthor: Barış » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:20 am

Kak BC2000, I hope ya also stick around.
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PostAuthor: Kulka » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:39 am

i also hope. if not i will find him
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PostAuthor: Kulka » Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:51 pm

KAK BC - I AM WAITING FOR YOU TO BE HERE TILL MONDAY.

after that i will start to look for you.
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PostAuthor: Akam » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:35 am

Kulka xan, if u go from here how can i fulfil my promise of the catch-up with a cup of tea when we return to kurdistan? :(
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PostAuthor: Kulka » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:20 pm

Akam giyan - even if i want to go away - i dont know how, coz i need all of you. i dont feel good without the poeple who are so important for me.
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PostAuthor: Akam » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:46 am

In that case you have no choice but to stay. and we love your contribution on here. No matter what some say, you are an important figure to this forum and your life story does not matter
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PostAuthor: Sus » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:30 pm

I supports your opinion Akam!!

Good day for all!!
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