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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:06 pm

I feel sorry for the kid. I don't think two people from differing ethnicities with bad blood should procreate and marry with one another.It's not really a good idea, since their kids will have a identity crisis.

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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:15 pm

Unless the father is a drunk or a drug addict or a criminal or insane it is inhuman to cut him from the child's life . The problem is between you and the father and the child has nothing to do with it . In my view a half bad father/mother is better than not having father/mother .

http://www.fatherhood.org/media/consequ ... statistics
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:17 pm

talsor wrote:Unless the father is a drunk or a drug addict or a criminal or insane it is inhuman to cut him from the child's life . The problem is between you and the father and the child has nothing to do with it . In my view a half bad father/mother is better than not having father/mother .

http://www.fatherhood.org/media/consequ ... statistics


Actually it would be better. You want people with the same blood as churchill in our admist? Kurds shouldn't mix/procreate with nations that have been involved with killing kurds.

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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:24 pm

Feyli_kord wrote:I feel sorry for the kid. I don't think two people from differing ethnicities with bad blood should procreate and marry with one another.It's not really a good idea, since their kids will have a identity crisis.


Why ? The mother of my child is not Kurdish , Yet my child identify himself as being 100% kurdish . He has a big kurdish flag in his room , listen to kurdish music , have kurdish friends , visits kurdistan and most of the time does not want to come back .

Child's identity belong to the father not the mother and it is father's responsibility to make sure that the child understand that .
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:27 pm

talsor wrote:
Feyli_kord wrote:I feel sorry for the kid. I don't think two people from differing ethnicities with bad blood should procreate and marry with one another.It's not really a good idea, since their kids will have a identity crisis.


Why ? The mother of my child is not Kurdish , Yet my child identify himself as being 100% kurdish . He has a big kurdish flag in his room , listen to kurdish music , have kurdish friends , visits kurdistan and most of the time does not want to come back .

Child's identity belong to the father not the mother and it is father's responsibility to make sure that the child understand that .


To me it's a problem if you married french/english/arab/turk. Those ethnicities have more or less been belligerent towards kurds. But i guess most people are not interested in history or present.

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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:31 pm

Feyli_kord wrote:
talsor wrote:Unless the father is a drunk or a drug addict or a criminal or insane it is inhuman to cut him from the child's life . The problem is between you and the father and the child has nothing to do with it . In my view a half bad father/mother is better than not having father/mother .

http://www.fatherhood.org/media/consequ ... statistics


Actually it would be better. You want people with the same blood as churchill in our admist? Kurds shouldn't mix/procreate with nations that have been involved with killing kurds.


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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:41 pm

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talsor wrote:
Feyli_kord wrote:I feel sorry for the kid. I don't think two people from differing ethnicities with bad blood should procreate and marry with one another.It's not really a good idea, since their kids will have a identity crisis.


Why ? The mother of my child is not Kurdish , Yet my child identify himself as being 100% kurdish . He has a big kurdish flag in his room , listen to kurdish music , have kurdish friends , visits kurdistan and most of the time does not want to come back .

Child's identity belong to the father not the mother and it is father's responsibility to make sure that the child understand that .


To me it's a problem if you married french/english/arab/turk. Those ethnicities have more or less been belligerent towards kurds. But i guess most people are not interested in history or present.


marriage is a contract between a man and a women .There is no mentioned of color or nationality or religion because it is irrelevant when there is love and understanding .

I certainly understand considering the traumatic experience that went through as a nation to completely stay away from certain nationalities and I agree that marrying a Kurdish girl is better 99% of the time .
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:45 pm

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I certainly understand considering the traumatic experience that went through as a nation to completely stay away from certain nationalities and I agree that marrying a Kurdish girl is better 99% of the time .


I'm sorry.. to say, but in my opinion it's a disgrace to marry someone who belongs to the same group that were belligerent and killed your own people. If i was half kurdish and half english, and i read about british betrayal of kurds and posion gas bombings of kurdish villages... i'd probably kill myself. Probably worse if you're half kurd/ arab/turk



This is just my opinion, don't take offense to this.

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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:50 pm

talsor wrote:Unless the father is a drunk or a drug addict or a criminal or insane it is inhuman to cut him from the child's life . The problem is between you and the father and the child has nothing to do with it . In my view a half bad father/mother is better than not having father/mother .

http://www.fatherhood.org/media/consequ ... statistics


100% correct.
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: talsor » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:04 pm

Feyli_kord wrote:
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I certainly understand considering the traumatic experience that went through as a nation to completely stay away from certain nationalities and I agree that marrying a Kurdish girl is better 99% of the time .


I'm sorry.. to say, but in my opinion it's a disgrace to marry someone who belongs to the same group that were belligerent and killed your own people. If i was half kurdish and half english, and i read about british betrayal of kurds and posion gas bombings of kurdish villages... i'd probably kill myself. Probably worse if you're half kurd/ arab/turk



This is just my opinion, don't take offense to this.


No offence taken and I certainly understand , but as I mentioned earlier that children blood line belong to the father not the mother according to our culture . There is no such thing as half kurd . If the father is turk and the mother is Kurdish then the children are considered turks not kurds .

It is up to the Kurdish father to emphasize the kurdishness in his children .
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:10 pm

talsor wrote:
No offence taken and I certainly understand , but as I mentioned earlier that children blood line belong to the father not the mother according to our culture . There is no such thing as half kurd . If the father is turk and the mother is Kurdish then the children are considered turks not kurds .

It is up to the Kurdish father to emphasize the kurdishness in his children .


No man... this is an arabic lineage tradition, which is passed on to kurds via islam. From a scientific POV a kurd is someone who has predominantly kurdish ancestry or identifies with kurds and has west-iranian roots. Someone who is half kurdish, will be half kurdish and over time their children by each generation will become fully kurdish.
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:10 pm

talsor wrote:
Feyli_kord wrote:I feel sorry for the kid. I don't think two people from differing ethnicities with bad blood should procreate and marry with one another.It's not really a good idea, since their kids will have a identity crisis.


Why ? The mother of my child is not Kurdish , Yet my child identify himself as being 100% kurdish . He has a big kurdish flag in his room , listen to kurdish music , have kurdish friends , visits kurdistan and most of the time does not want to come back .

Child's identity belong to the father not the mother and it is father's responsibility to make sure that the child understand that .


Like usual I agree with you kak Talsor, and I'm raising my sons the same way :)
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:12 pm

Piling wrote:I suppose it is the new-born :D :

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Cute Kurdish looking baby :)
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:17 pm

That's not true, being Kurdish paternally determined, DNA variation amongst near easterner a is already almost udentical, and the maternal DNA varies amongst a ethnic group.
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No offence taken and I certainly understand , but as I mentioned earlier that children blood line belong to the father not the mother according to our culture . There is no such thing as half kurd . If the father is turk and the mother is Kurdish then the children are considered turks not kurds .

It is up to the Kurdish father to emphasize the kurdishness in his children .


No man... this is an arabic lineage tradition, which is passed on to kurds via islam. From a scientific POV a kurd is someone who has predominantly kurdish ancestry or identifies with kurds and has west-iranian roots. Someone who is half kurdish, will be half kurdish and over time their children by each generation will become fully kurdish.
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Re: are kurdish men faithful?

PostAuthor: Feyli_kord » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:21 pm

HZKurdi wrote:That's not true, being Kurdish paternally determined, DNA variation amongst near easterner a is already almost udentical, and the maternal DNA varies amongst a ethnic group.


Not really... autosmal alleles differ alot between kurds and arabs. Iranians are the genetically the closest group to kurds. Mtdna and Y-dna are very small part of hereditary genetics.

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