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2019 : Revolution ?

PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:23 pm

La France a son champion de boxe :

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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:36 am

Thank you for the link :ymapplause:

Very interesting footage

We in the UK have none of this in our media

We are led to believe the protests only went on for a couple of days and nothing recently

I have also discovered that the yellow jacket protests have been taking place her in the UK

Something else our media does not want to publicise X(

If we gave all the Kurds yellow jackets and the Kurdish flag, do you think they would unite and join together for the sake of their children and the future of Kurdistan :D
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Re: 2019 : Revolution ?

PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:25 am

f we gave all the Kurds yellow jackets and the Kurdish flag, do you think they would unite and join together for the sake of their children and the future of Kurdistan :D


If a movement like this one starts in Kurdistan, all parties but KDP would refuse to wear yellow jackets and then will debate about the color of the jacket, fight each others, and at the end all people' s claims will be forgotten behind their futile discuss… :lol:
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:11 pm

France's Macron reeling as tough
stance against 'yellow vests' backfires


Emmanuel Macron intended to start the new year on the offensive against the ‘yellow vest’ protesters. Instead, the French president is reeling from more violent street demonstrations

What began as a grassroots rebellion against diesel taxes and the high cost of living has morphed into something more perilous for Macron - an assault on his presidency and French institutions.

The anti-government protesters on Saturday used a forklift truck to force their way into a government ministry compound, torched cars near the Champs Elysees and in one violent skirmish on a bridge over the Seine punched and kicked riot police officers to the ground.

The French authorities’ struggle to maintain order during the weekend protests raises questions not just over policing tactics but also over how Macron responds, as he prepares to bring in stricter rules for unemployment benefits and cut thousands of public sector jobs.

On Sunday evening, Macron wrote on Twitter: “Once again, the Republic was attacked with extreme violence - its guardians, its representatives, its symbols.”

His administration had hardened its stance against the yellow vests after the protest movement appeared to have lost momentum over the Christmas holidays.

The government would not relent in its pursuit of reforms to reshape the economy, government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux said on Friday, branding the remaining protesters agitators seeking to overthrow the government.

Twenty-four hours later, he was fleeing his office out of a back door as protesters invaded the courtyard and smashed up several cars. “It wasn’t me who was attacked,” he later said. “It was the Republic.”

Driving the unrest is anger, particularly among low-paid workers, over a squeeze on household incomes and a belief that Macron is indifferent to citizens’ needs as he enacts reforms seen as pro-business and favoring the wealthy.

Macron’s government has been shaken by the unrest, caught off-guard when in November the yellow vests began blocking roads, occupying highway tollbooths and staging violent invasions of Paris and other cities on weekends.

Two months on, it has not found a way to soothe the yellow vests’ anger and meet their demands, which include a higher minimum wage, a more participative democracy and Macron’s resignation.

With no clear leader, negotiating with the group is hard.

“IMPASSE”

Macron sought to head off the rebellion in December with a promise of tax cuts for pensioners, wage rises for the poorest workers and a reversal of planned fuel tax hikes, while pledging a national debate on key policy issues. He fell short.

The price tag for those concessions: 10 billion euros ($11.39 billion), enough to send French borrowing costs higher as investors fretted about debt levels and Macron’s ability to reform the euro zone’s second largest economy.

Laurent Berger, head of the reform-minded CFDT trade union, France’s largest by members, on Sunday accused Macron’s government of going it alone at a time it needed to reach out.

“We’re at an impasse. We have on the one side a violent movement ... and on the other a government which thinks it can find the answers all on its own,” Berger told France Inter.

Some 50,000 protesters marched through cities and towns across France, including Paris, Bordeaux, Toulouse, Rennes and Marseille.

In Paris, the street marches began peacefully but degenerated when some protesters threw punches at baton-wielding officers, torched electric scooters and garbage bins along the Left Bank’s upscale Boulevard Saint Germain and set cars ablaze near the Champs Elysees. Clashes erupted in other cities too.

Both yellow vests and “casseurs”, hooded youths from anti-capitalist or anarchist groups, appeared to be involved.

Labour Minister Muriel Penicaud said the prolonged unrest was hurting foreign investment.

Opposition lawmakers demanded the government put forward concrete proposals to address the yellow vests’ demands, but government ministers dismissed caving in to a minority of troublemakers.

“We need to stop being a country that listens to those who cry the loudest,” Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer told LCI news channel.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-fran ... SKCN1P00KG

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Re: 2019 : Revolution ?

PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:49 pm

Now the furnace is fixed. Let's hope it will last…

Feast time is over, diet restart. Lunch : 2 boiled egg whites and a whole one, 200 g of green beans and a yoghurt.

I AM HUNGRY :((

Dinner : vegetable soup, 2 tuna filets and a piece of Comté cheese.

1 week with less than 1000 calories per day, I hope to lost 2 kilos in 6 days.
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Re: 2019 : Revolution ?

PostAuthor: Anthea » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:39 pm

Was in worth it - weeks of overeating followed by months of starving :ymdevil:
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Re: 2019 : Revolution ?

PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:44 pm

I am not a moderate eater. I fast or I feast. :-D
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:05 pm

Yellow vests knock out 60% of all speed cameras in France

Members of the "yellow vests" protest movement have vandalised almost 60% of France's entire speed camera network, the interior minister has said

Christophe Castaner said the wilful damage was a threat to road safety and put lives in danger.

The protest movement began over fuel tax increases, and saw motorists block roads and motorway toll booths.

Some protesters feel speed cameras are solely a revenue-generating measure which takes money from the poor.

The BBC's Hugh Schofield, in Paris, said evidence of the vandalism is visible to anyone driving around France, with radar cameras covered in paint or black tape to stop them working.

But the extent of the damage - now believed to affect more than half of all 3,200 speed cameras in the country's network - was unknown until Mr Castaner's statement on Thursday.

He said the devices had been "neutralised, attacked, or destroyed" by members of the protest movement.

The yellow vests movement, or gilets jaunes in French, is named after the high-visibility vests that every driver in the country must keep in their vehicle.

Speed limits in France were already controversial after the government lowered the limit on many main roads from 90km/h to 80 (50mph) early last year.

Protesters angry about the increase in fuel taxes complained of the rising costs of a commute for those priced out of living in urban centres - and turned their ire on other costs such as toll roads and speed cameras.

While the number of people attending weekend protests has dropped since the government made some small concessions, the conflict between the popular movement and the government remains a daily topic of debate in France.

Just this week, the prime minister announced a crackdown on unsanctioned protests, while a former boxer filmed punching police officers has divided public opinion, with some claiming he was defending other protesters from police.

And on Tuesday, the person picked to lead the country's planned "great debate" on the issues resigned over her €14,666 monthly salary (£13,200; $16,800).

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Re: 2019 : Revolution ?

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:04 pm

In France, almost all revolutions started by a protest against taxes :lol:

I saw the future cover of my novel today : the wall of Diyarbakir and the dragons of Cizîr 8)
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:21 am

Piling wrote:In France, almost all revolutions started by a protest against taxes :lol:

I saw the future cover of my novel today : the wall of Diyarbakir and the dragons of Cizîr 8)


WOW IT SOUNDS AWESOME :ymparty:

They are quick - obviously keen - and want to keep you happy :ymapplause:

In years to come, when you are WORLD FAMOUS people will look at the cover of your book and ask what happened to Diyarbakir and the Kurds

You will be able to tell them that Kurds went the same way as the Oozlum Bird

Oozlum Bird went around in ever-decreasing circles until it manages to fly up its own backside, disappearing completely

Just like the Kurds :ymdevil:
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Renewed yellow vest protests hit
with police water cannon and tear gas


Paris police fired water cannon and tear gas to repel “yellow vest” demonstrators from around the Arc de Triomphe monument on Saturday in the ninth straight weekend of protests against French President Emmanuel Macron’s economic reforms

Thousands of protesters also marched noisily but peacefully through the Grands Boulevards shopping area in northern Paris close to where a major gas explosion in a bakery killed two firefighters and injured nearly 50 people early on Saturday.

Central Paris was in lockdown against another feared eruption of violence by radical elements in the “gilets jaunes” (yellow vest) movement, with bridges across the Seine river closed and official buildings such as parliament and the Elysee presidential palace protected by police barriers.

Groups of protesters also gathered on and around Paris’s famous Champs Elysees boulevard, the scene of disturbances in recent weeks, many of them calling loudly for Macron to resign.

“Macron, we are going to tear down your place!” one banner read.

Around the 19th-century Arc de Triomphe at the top of the Champs Elysee, riot police unleashed water cannon and tear gas at militant yellow-vest protesters after being pelted with stones and paint, witnesses said.

By mid-afternoon there had been no major clashes with police unlike in previous weeks. In Paris over 50 people were arrested, some for carrying objects that could be used as weapons.

There were also thousands of marchers in the cities of Bordeaux and Toulon in southern France as well as Strasbourg in the east and the central city of Bourges.

Bourges authorities said nearly 5,000 yellow vests stuck to the designated demonstration area but another 500 had pushed into the city center that was off-limits for demonstrators.

Many businesses in Bourges had boarded themselves up to avoid damage from protesters and authorities had removed street furniture and building site materials that could be used for barricades.

In Strasbourg, up to 2,000 demonstrators gathered in front of the European Parliament building and later marched to the center of the city on the Rhine river border with Germany. Protesters set garbage bins ablaze and police fired a few tear gas grenades, but no serious violence or looting was reported.

More than 80,000 police were on duty for the protests nationwide, including 5,000 in Paris.

The “yellow vests” take their name from the high-visibility jackets they wear at road barricades and on the street. Their rage stems from a squeeze on household incomes and a belief that Macron, a former investment banker regarded as close to big business, is indifferent to their hardships.

Macron, often criticized for a monarchical manner, is to launch a national debate on Jan. 15 to try to mollify the yellow vest protesters, whose unrest has shaken his administration.

The debate, to be held on the internet and in town halls, will focus on four themes - taxes, green energy, institutional reform and citizenship. But aides to Macron have said changing the course of Macron’s reforms aimed at liberalizing the economy will be off limits.

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Re: 2019 : Revolution ?

PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:28 pm

This government is a bunch of incompetent idiots. And above all, Macron is just loosing any sense of reality.
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:03 pm

Piling wrote:This government is a bunch of incompetent idiots. And above all, Macron is just loosing any sense of reality.


I always thought he was a weak willed fool - he would be nowhere without his wife =))

Have the people started building guillotines yet :ymdevil:
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:08 pm

France sees ninth round of protests

Thousands of demonstrators turned out across France for new "yellow vests" protests, with dozens of arrests and clashes in Paris and other cities

Police in the capital used water cannon and tear gas as scuffles broke out at the Arc de Triomphe, on the ninth consecutive weekend of protests.

Some 84,000 demonstrators were recorded nationwide, an increase compared with last week, official figures show.

The nationwide protests were initially triggered by the rising price of fuel.

They have since widened to include anger at the cost of living, with a wide-ranging list of other demands.

Thousands of officers were deployed across Paris, which has previously seen street clashes and vandalism, to tackle the protesters, and parts of the city centre were blocked off by riot police.

Some 8,000 demonstrators were on the streets - more than in the past two weekends, when authorities counted just 3,500 people on 5 January and 800 on 29 December, according to interior ministry figures.

Some 156 protesters were arrested, and as of 21:00 local time (20:00 GMT), 108 remained in custody, police said.

By nightfall, there had not been the looting or burning of cars as seen in previous weeks.

Skirmishes also broke out in cities around the country, including Bordeaux

There were also thousands of protesters in the cities of Bordeaux and Toulouse in southern France as well as Strasbourg in the east and the central city of Bourges, the site of another major rally, where more than 6,000 people took to the streets.

Nationwide, 244 people were arrested, of which 201 remained in custody, police said.

Some 80,000 police officers were deployed nationwide to face the protesters.

French President Emmanuel Macron has said a national debate is due to kick off on 15 January in response to weeks of protests by the "gilets jaunes" - so-called because of the high-visibility jackets they wear.

It will be held publicly in town halls across France and on the internet, and will focus on four themes: taxes, green energy, institutional reform and citizenship.

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PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:03 am

MACRON CRISIS: Shock referendum could plunge
France into ANARCHY - Yellow Vest warning


France has been gripped by social unrest ever since a protest movement triggered by rising fuel prices spiralled into a wider rebellion against the government’s liberal economic policies. Mr Mahjoubi, a close ally of President Emmanuel Macron, told Europe 1 radio: “A universal RIC (citizens’ initiative referendum) on any topic risks to … trigger widespread political instability … and constitutes a great danger to our country.” France’s anti-government yellow vests are demanding the right to hold popular referendums, known as RICs, through mass petitions.

While the Macron administration has described such referendums as “a useful tool in a democracy,” it has also stressed that their use should be limited and closely supervised.

The implementation of popular votes would allow French citizens to propose and vote on new laws that would overrule parliamentary votes in what they claim would be a “more direct” form of democracy.

A RIC would be triggered if 700,000 people signed a petition supervised by a recognised independent body.

As well as allowing citizens to introduce or remove legislation, the popular votes would be held on international accords and even to get rid of MPs or other elected officials, including Mr Macron, who is on the receiving end of much of the protesters’ anger.

Digital Minister Mounir Mahjoubi warned that a referendum would lead to a government collapse

A RIC would be triggered if 700,000 people signed a petition Emmanuel Macron will cause a 'civil war' claims French citizen

Launched online in mid-November as a targeted protest movement against rising fuel prices and now-cancelled fuel tax hikes, the backlash has since morphed into a sometimes violent revolt against Mr Macron’s pro-business economic policies and perceived indifference.

A sense of national “humiliation” has been festering “for decades,” Mr Mahjoubi continued, as he commented on the three-month national debate, or “grand débat,” the Macron government is to launch this week in an attempt to mollify protesters.

The initiative comes after nine weeks of rallies by the yellow vests, named after the high-visibility safety jackets they wear and that all French motorists must keep in their cars.

Mr Mahjoubi said: “The national debate will force us to change the way we do politics in France and transform democracy.

The initiative comes after nine weeks of rallies by the yellow vests “Nothing will be the same again after the debate”.

Bending to some of the yellow vests’ core demands – organising a national debate and holding popular referendums – could be the only way to break the stalemate, with some Macron allies describing the policy debate as a bold exercise in democracy.

The French now have eight weeks to respond by contributing thoughts on a raft of subjects in an initiative the young president hopes will generate policy ideas and help build a “new contract with the nation”.

The debate will focus on four themes — taxes, green energy, institutional reform and citizenship. Discussions will be held on the internet and in town halls.

Four weeks after that, in April, Mr Macron will return with his conclusions.

Mr Macron, often criticised for being disconnected from the realities of ordinary citizens who struggle to make ends meet, says he wants to channel their anger into solutions.

But the initiative, he stressed, is “neither an election, nor a referendum” on his leadership.

François Hollande, Mr Macron’s leftist predecessor and former mentor, echoed Mr Mahjoubi’s concerns a popular referendum could lead to anarchy if no boundaries are set by the government.

Former French President Mr Hollande is concerned that a popular referendum could lead to anarchy. “We need to solemnise the referendum,” Mr Hollande said after meeting with yellow vest protesters.

“We can hold popular referendums to amend the constitution and important treaties – but not on any subject… We cannot let people think that elected officials can be stripped of all decision-making authority,” he continued.

A ‘RIC’ referendum system already exists in some countries, including Switzerland, where voters are regularly asked to vote on government policies.

Italy’s constitution calls for a popular vote to be held if a proposal gets 500,000 signatures or has the support of at least five regional councils.

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