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Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:47 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Ossetians are related to us in Language, culture and race. They also share the similar struggles for independance and freedom. Trying to break off Russia and Georgia. What do you think about Ossetians? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossetians
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Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:31 pm
Author: Azamat
Ossetians are amazing. If you've seen them dance with knives, you'll know what I mean :D

I respect all of the Caucasian peoples(exluding Armenians and to some degree Azeris), despite many of them being hostile towards eachother, and the group concerned here having allied themselves with a country that at times comitted unforgivable atrocities against us. I admire their cultures, history and self-respectful mentality. It's nice to know that thanks to our Hurrian ancestry(that contributed greatly to Kurdish culture and genetics), we also harbour a fraction of 'Caucasian' identity. The Ossetians are obviously Caucasian, and not Iranic for most part, but we Kurds share one ancestor with them: the Scythians. This Iranic ethnic group is whom the Ossetians inherited their language from.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:59 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Azamat wrote:Ossetians are amazing. If you've seen them dance with knives, you'll know what I mean :D

I respect all of the Caucasian peoples(exluding Armenians and to some degree Azeris), despite many of them being hostile towards eachother, and the group concerned here having allied themselves with a country that at times comitted unforgivable atrocities against us. I admire their cultures, history and self-respectful mentality. It's nice to know that thanks to our Hurrian ancestry(that contributed greatly to Kurdish culture and genetics), we also harbour a fraction of 'Caucasian' identity. The Ossetians are obviously Caucasian, and not Iranic for most part, but we Kurds share one ancestor with them: the Scythians. This Iranic ethnic group is whom the Ossetians inherited their language from.


Ossetians aren't caucasian, their indo-european iranic peoples. Yes Ossetians have high G2a but they also have high R1a, I think Ossets are 50 50. Oh and if you look at their langauge, you will see they are Iranic. I can understand quiet a few words of them. Their dialect really sounds like faylee with a mixture of Persian, I don't nkow why.
Yes their a really brave people fighting the Georgian(nato) pigs. Again I don't agree with you on Armenians being our enemies, but if you think that then thats your opinion and I understand that. Ossetians call themselves Alanians and they even say they are Iranic, but yes due to their area they have picked up and mixed with native population.

Honestly once Kurdistan is independant fully, I would happily fight for these people. Georgians have committed massive crimes against these people.

Heres videos about the Ossets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0BgrGnnCCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-By6K2zfWQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPo4LHbV348
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOMZlnlTg8Y

Their ancestors the Sarmatian knights(Alanians) We share common ancestry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJt4zmoLhkQ&feature=related

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:29 pm
Author: Azamat
You and I seem to have very different notions on determining who are our enemies and who are not. I could write a huge essay on why I consider the Armenians to be an enemy of the Kurdish nation, but as I said before, I'm in a very lazy mood today. I will do this another time, but a visit to Hyeclub, the largest online Armenian community(mainly comprised of fascists), will answer all your questions.

And if I were you, I would seriously do something about your attitude towards Georgians. The Georgian people have shown us their hospitality and friendship in times of persecution from the Turks. The Kurds living in Georgia have been offered Georgian education and cultural freedom, in contrast to our situation in Armenia. In all my life, I have never seen a Georgian spit on our race; they have traditionally respected us and do not hold racist opinions towards Kurds(again, in contrast to Armenians). And just for the sake of defending a related people whom they are hostile to, being called 'pigs' is what they get in return? This defies all of Kurdish logic, since one of our main enemies is related to us aswell. This does not negate my respect for Ossetians however, as I am neutral on all of the internal caucasian conflicts.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:05 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Azamat wrote:You and I seem to have very different notions on determining who are our enemies and who are not. I could write a huge essay on why I consider the Armenians to be an enemy of the Kurdish nation, but as I said before, I'm in a very lazy mood today. I will do this another time, but a visit to Hyeclub, the largest online Armenian community(mainly comprised of fascists), will answer all your questions.

And if I were you, I would seriously do something about your attitude towards Georgians. The Georgian people have shown us their hospitality and friendship in times of persecution from the Turks. The Kurds living in Georgia have been offered Georgian education and cultural freedom, in contrast to our situation in Armenia. In all my life, I have never seen a Georgian spit on our race; they have traditionally respected us and do not hold racist opinions towards Kurds(again, in contrast to Armenians). And just for the sake of defending a related people whom they are hostile to, being called 'pigs' is what they get in return? This defies all of Kurdish logic, since one of our main enemies is related to us aswell. This does not negate my respect for Ossetians however, as I am neutral on all of the internal caucasian conflicts.


Ok I'll check out that Armenian forum, I hope I don't find out your right. Well I don't hate Georgians but I consider Ossetians as our brothers, so I side with them over Georgians anyday. Yes your right Georgians offer culture freedom, but in Armenia Kurds also have culture freedom.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:09 pm
Author: KurdishSoccer92
to map : we are not iranian !

we are only kurds from kurdistan !

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:23 pm
Author: jjmuneer
KurdishSoccer92 wrote:to map : we are not iranian !

we are only kurds from kurdistan !

Indo-Iranian is very different from the term modern day Iranian. Of course were not Iranian, Kurds from Kurdistan, medes from Media.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:24 pm
Author: jjmuneer
Kak Azamat I checked out their forum, yes they do claim kurdish land and want all of east anatolia. Thye claim Kingdom of Mitanni was Armenian, which is really funny. Mitannis were indo-iranian/aryan people in modern day west kurdistan.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:43 pm
Author: Azamat
jjmuneer wrote:Kak Azamat I checked out their forum, yes they do claim kurdish land and want all of east anatolia. Thye claim Kingdom of Mitanni was Armenian, which is really funny. Mitannis were indo-iranian/aryan people in modern day west kurdistan.

Did you also observe a fascistic sentiment among the majority of its users? Aside from their ridiculous claims on ancestral Kurdish lands, their racist views on Kurdish people offend me the most.

You should know that I didn't actually have to send you to this forum for you to redeem your perspective. The anti-Kurdish campaign of the Armenians and Assyrians is all around you. Everything you read about Kurds in relation to their history is influenced by their deceitful propaganda. They will go to extroadinary lenghts just to make sure that Kurdish historiography is in line with their nationalistic ambitions. The widespread classification of Kurds as a 'nomadic' people is just the tip of the iceberg(even though this is/was true, they ignore our context and distort the definition to make us appear like Gypsies).

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:34 am
Author: Kurdistano
Georgians are worth more than any other of our neighbors.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:09 am
Author: Kurdistano
Azamat wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Kak Azamat I checked out their forum, yes they do claim kurdish land and want all of east anatolia. Thye claim Kingdom of Mitanni was Armenian, which is really funny. Mitannis were indo-iranian/aryan people in modern day west kurdistan.

Did you also observe a fascistic sentiment among the majority of its users? Aside from their ridiculous claims on ancestral Kurdish lands, their racist views on Kurdish people offend me the most.

You should know that I didn't actually have to send you to this forum for you to redeem your perspective. The anti-Kurdish campaign of the Armenians and Assyrians is all around you. Everything you read about Kurds in relation to their history is influenced by their deceitful propaganda. They will go to extroadinary lenghts just to make sure that Kurdish historiography is in line with their nationalistic ambitions. The widespread classification of Kurds as a 'nomadic' people is just the tip of the iceberg(even though this is/was true, they ignore our context and distort the definition to make us appear like Gypsies).


to some extend all Indo-Europeans, and all Humans of the old world were nomadic. Maybe the Armenians are descend of another major branch of homonids (neanderthal) :D

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:35 am
Author: jjmuneer
Kurdistano wrote:
Azamat wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Kak Azamat I checked out their forum, yes they do claim kurdish land and want all of east anatolia. Thye claim Kingdom of Mitanni was Armenian, which is really funny. Mitannis were indo-iranian/aryan people in modern day west kurdistan.

Did you also observe a fascistic sentiment among the majority of its users? Aside from their ridiculous claims on ancestral Kurdish lands, their racist views on Kurdish people offend me the most.

You should know that I didn't actually have to send you to this forum for you to redeem your perspective. The anti-Kurdish campaign of the Armenians and Assyrians is all around you. Everything you read about Kurds in relation to their history is influenced by their deceitful propaganda. They will go to extroadinary lenghts just to make sure that Kurdish historiography is in line with their nationalistic ambitions. The widespread classification of Kurds as a 'nomadic' people is just the tip of the iceberg(even though this is/was true, they ignore our context and distort the definition to make us appear like Gypsies).


to some extend all Indo-Europeans, and all Humans of the old world were nomadic. Maybe the Armenians are descend of another major branch of homonids (neanderthal) :D


Yeh Armenians are indo-european, but their really different to Kurds.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:04 am
Author: Azamat
Kurdistano wrote:Georgians are worth any other of our neighbors.

What have the Georgians ever done to us to be frowned upon, like the Turks or Arabs? Please explain.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:56 am
Author: Kurdistano
Azamat wrote:
Kurdistano wrote:Georgians are worth any other of our neighbors.

What have the Georgians ever done to us to be frowned upon, like the Turks or Arabs? Please explain.


Sorry that must be my bad English. I meant they a worth more than Turks and Arabs (better than them) It must be the Google translate which gave me a wrong word. Or maybe you did mistake worth with worse :D

I also find it very important to have a border with Georgia because they are one of the few friendly neighbors toward Kurds.

Re: Ossetians being related to us

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:35 am
Author: Azamat
Kurdistano wrote:
Azamat wrote:
Kurdistano wrote:Georgians are worth any other of our neighbors.

What have the Georgians ever done to us to be frowned upon, like the Turks or Arabs? Please explain.

I also find it very important to have a border with Georgia because they are one of the few friendly neighbors toward Kurds.

I agree, but I'm a bit skeptical whether we will ever see this chance. Turks have tactically populated this area since the pre-1940 massacres by Turks and Armenians, and in the political/economic dimension, the Georgians will choose Turks and Azeris over us any day. In my opinion, our main priority concerning the territorial issue should be to have a connection to the Mediterranean sea. This will make the grim prospect of depending on our neighbours' mercy a whole lot less realistic.