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What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:50 am
Author: kani
Last summer I was so excited to travel to my hometown Erbil/Hewler,I haven't been there in 10 years and no finally I would meet my relatives and friends there.
Erbil has changed a lot,I remeber that the only big bazaar in Erbil was the Qaysari but now Erbil is full with bazaars,shopping malls and many other new places. I was very proud and had a great time there. But let's go to the dark side. Erbil is full of arab,turkish and persians now. Whatever I went to there were I bunch of arabs,turks and persians. They acted like sultans there and behaved like they owned this place.
A bunch of persian girls talked about how retarded we kurds are and that the women are not classy at all by wearing hijabs.Sorry if I say this but they acted like real whores do back in Finland. They dress exactly like they want in Erbil and bet they would never dare to act and dress like that back to their own country. I have no problem with the dress they wear,but I hate when they act like they have it better in their country and act like bitches....
And talk about turks,turkey is a beautiful country with a lot of beaches and toursim places but what the heck are they doing in my country? Yes,spreading a lot of shit ofcourse. My cousin told me that the most of the men and women doing illegal bussnises here. Yes,they open some good companies too but the most of them sales bad products who they can't sell back in Turkey.
And arabs,I swear by god I have not seen so many arabs in my whole life than in Erbil. There was women I meet in the bazaar who was talking about that we kurds don't give them enough rights and that we should educated ourslefs. Honey,we kurds have seen so much fromyou and if this women don't like us she can go back to bagdad (where she was from) and try to live there with those educated terroristes there. And then she said that there is no Kurdistan and that this land is only for arabs. I swear by god if my mum haven't learned me good morals I would punch this bitch in the face.

So,I think that the government should not let this people who hate us the most to have the right to buy houses or soils in Kurdistan.
I would rather see english men doing bussnises in our country than those people. I know i sound racist but if they hate us,what are they doing in our country?????

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:21 am
Author: jjmuneer
Well I'll start one one thing. I think that is how europeans with us Kurdish refugees in their countries, not to say we do it or that it is the same thing in regards to what you said, but yeh I think they do.
Well I think it is the influx of western consumerist culture that is probably a cause of what you said about the Persian girls. They probably think it is cool or moderning doing what they are doing, or say what they are saying. Also these Persian women are whores to materials, that is all they care about. They only have boyfriends or husbands for the sake of money and goods. I say this from a first hand perspective. Not to generalise, but that is what I've seen.
Regarding the Arabs behaving like that in Erbil, sadly this is the same case in Kirmanshan. I actually saw these Arabs in a Kirmanshahi Bazaar starting a fight, I was young so not sure what that was related to, but when I asked my mum she said it was about gold. Since Kirmanshan as quite a few gold markets. What I don't understand is how these Arabs easily cross the borders, why the hell do the authorities give them visas.
I wouldn't worry too much about what those Arabs say. This is because they probably have more rights then in the countries they came from. Why do you think they moved to SK in the first place? To add they really cannot complain, since they aren't the ones who got gassed or murdered on a mass scale. Most of these immigrants are just in SK purely for finacialy purposes, they do not care for Kurdish peoples or cultures. I am talking about the ones you specifically saw. Anyways if these Arab women really want to compare rights of minorities, she can just look at how her compatriots have and still are treating the Kurds in Baghdad, yet they seem to not make as much noise as her. To be honest the Arabs are nothing compared to the Turkmens in making alot of noise.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:25 am
Author: Londoner
I don't think anything was wrong whatever you have seen in Arbil. It was quite nutural and good sign. It is just like London, if you go to Picadilloy circus you will see only people from oversea. Nevermind what the Arab and Persian women said. We have to tolerate anything as long as it is not a threat to life and property.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:31 am
Author: jjmuneer
Londoner wrote:I don't think anything was wrong whatever you have seen in Arbil. It was quite nutural and good sign. It is just like London, if you go to Picadilloy circus you will see only people from oversea. Nevermind what the Arab and Persian women said. We have to tolerate anything as long as it is not a threat to life and property.

Thats the thing immigrants or foriegn people in Britain aren't trying to manipulate the political and economic situation, which they are attempting in SK. To be fair it can't solely be blamed on our neighbours, but also the western powers and other external/internal factors. I've noticed alot of these Arab and Persian women seem to view us as inferior, they always look down on us regardless if they live in SK or not.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:49 am
Author: kani
What I want to say is,if they respect us we will respect them. They come to our country and they are insluting our people. That is what makes me angry. So you think it's natural to them to inslut us kurds“?? I don't care fi women or men go naked out but they should not act like they have it better in in their country. I want to see them to act like that back in Iran and act like that.

btw, clothes have nothing to do with what person you are. You can wear what you want as long as you behave good among other people.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:58 pm
Author: alan131210
yeah immigrants are haters and will talk shit about the country they reside in , i do it in Australia :lol: .

but most these countries are racist and hate immigrants but kurds back home are tolerant , back in 2010 i was in a cafe in Erbil , an arab guy asked the guy to put an arabic music , then i walked up to the guy i said 'if u put arabic song on we will leave' there was about 6 of us vs this 2 strange looking arabs , so the guy said to the arab guy 'sorry we dont have arabic music here' .

i think we need to get more tougher with these immigrants in kurdistan , we have to show them that if they do not like what they see , then they can pack up and leave , that is what australian people say to immigrants and usually shuts them up.

if i was ever in kurdistan and heard an immigrant say negative things about my country i will say 'have we sent for you to live here? no then go back to your shithole' .

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:32 pm
Author: Londoner
In UK I have seen Asians and Africans, who have everything in UK but be very poor in their own countries, are not happy about UK and don't show any appreciation. No one bothers to tell them off.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:25 pm
Author: Rando
KRG should make sure that kurds are AT LEAST 90% of kurdistans populations.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:27 pm
Author: hevalo27
alan131210 wrote:back in 2010 i was in a cafe in Erbil , an arab guy asked the guy to put an arabic music , then i walked up to the guy i said 'if u put arabic song on we will leave' there was about 6 of us vs this 2 strange looking arabs , so the guy said to the arab guy 'sorry we dont have arabic music here' .


:lol: :lol: :lol:
well done

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:55 pm
Author: Cewlik
A few imigrants are okey, but to much of them will create automatically problems, so Kurdistan need a limt for imigration, thats it.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:31 am
Author: alan131210
Now yes but in 2003-2008 some 2000 families have migrated to Kurdistan and don't want to go back I guess their kids will have to mix and get assimilated if they want to go schools and find jobs .

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:39 am
Author: kani
SamBurhan wrote:
Cewlik wrote:A few imigrants are okey, but to much of them will create automatically problems, so Kurdistan need a limt for imigration, thats it.


i thought arabs were only allowed as tourists in hawler right?


no,arabs,persians and turks have the right to even buy houses,soils,companies and do whatever they want. That's just a new way of arabization....Saddam did the same he kicked out kurdish people from their own houses and let the arabs come in. But this is in the mo7taram way as they say...

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:56 pm
Author: Kurdistano
alan131210 wrote:Now yes but in 2003-2008 some 2000 families have migrated to Kurdistan and don't want to go back I guess their kids will have to mix and get assimilated if they want to go schools and find jobs .



Thats not a game, bitching around telling that Kurdistan is Arab land and than crying to live in Kurdistan. Kick them in the butt or let them live in ghettos since they go out of Kurdistan. Sorry but I have no sympathy for ultra fascistic bitches who think they can live on the ground they are insulting as their own! Imagine a immigrant here in Germany calling Germany his land and that Germans are just slaves living on foreign land.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:57 pm
Author: Kurdistano
kani wrote:
SamBurhan wrote:
Cewlik wrote:A few imigrants are okey, but to much of them will create automatically problems, so Kurdistan need a limt for imigration, thats it.


i thought arabs were only allowed as tourists in hawler right?


no,arabs,persians and turks have the right to even buy houses,soils,companies and do whatever they want. That's just a new way of arabization....Saddam did the same he kicked out kurdish people from their own houses and let the arabs come in. But this is in the mo7taram way as they say...



>What I dont understand, Ok Turks come to make big business (though they should gtfo too) Arabs believe this is "Arab Land" and dont want to live in the shithole called Baghdad, but what are farsian bitches doing in Kurdistan and insulting Kurdish people with their homophobic language?

It almost seems to me like all three Turks, Persians and Arabs try to "win" South Kurdistan in sending as much people of their as possible.

Re: What makes me angry (my trip to Erbil last summer)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:34 pm
Author: Cewlik
I herad that there are also many arab prostitutes in south Kurdistan, is that true?