Welcome Nuray --- Xêr Amey!

[nuray]

I am Kurdish

From Ûrmiye - Iranian Kurdistan...

So you are Turkish? Or Zazaki?

Do you speak Zazaki?

my father is a türk. my mother is zaza. i thought you was zaza cause of thread title. i speak some zazaki not much.

I speak a little Zazakî too... That's why I wrote that title... And also because I wanted to wish you "welcome" in a more personal way...

Well - in my eyes, Zazakî are Kurds too - and most Kurds consider Zazakî as Kurds...

[Diri]

i hear that zaza are and are not kurds so it confuse me. i read zaza are similar genetic to kurds and also zazaki is a dialect of kurdish but it too could be a close related language ... i do not know for sure. why do you think zaza are kurd?

I think Zazakî are Kurdish because,

We share the same culture and in some cases also the same religion.
We share the same music, food, clothes and dances...
We share the same mentality and way of thinking in life...
Our languages are very close... If a person get's a little education, he/she can understand both Kurmancî & Zazakî...
We share genetic background - very close in that way too...

But I respect the wish of every individual of course. If somebody feels as Zazakî only (and nothing else) then I respect that...

I know some Zazakî and they consider themselves Kurdish... In my oppinion, I think there are less Zazakî who don't consider themselves Kurdish...

Consider this: The Hewramî Kurds - they are the linguistically closest to Zazakî - and they are hardcore Kurdish nationalists...

Beyond this, consider: there are other Kurdish groups, which have less in common with other Kurds, but still consider themselves Kurdish...

And also consider: nationality is not based on language... It's based on a feeling of oneness or closeness with a group of people...

[K4L_2007]

Welcome here

[nuray]

i hear that zaza are and are not kurds so it confuse me. i read zaza are similar genetic to kurds and also zazaki is a dialect of kurdish but it too could be a close related language ... i do not know for sure. why do you think zaza are kurd?

I think Zazakî are Kurdish because,

We share the same culture and in some cases also the same religion.
We share the same music, food, clothes and dances...
We share the same mentality and way of thinking in life...
Our languages are very close... If a person get's a little education, he/she can understand both Kurmancî & Zazakî...
We share genetic background - very close in that way too...

But I respect the wish of every individual of course. If somebody feels as Zazakî only (and nothing else) then I respect that...

I know some Zazakî and they consider themselves Kurdish... In my oppinion, I think there are less Zazakî who don't consider themselves Kurdish...

Consider this: The Hewramî Kurds - they are the linguistically closest to Zazakî - and they are hardcore Kurdish nationalists...

Beyond this, consider: there are other Kurdish groups, which have less in common with other Kurds, but still consider themselves Kurdish...

And also consider: nationality is not based on language... It's based on a feeling of oneness or closeness with a group of people...

[nuray]

Welcome here

thanks. how are you? where are you from?

[Diri]

That's cool


You're my sister either way, Nuray...

Could you please upload an image to your avatar? I almost didn't see that it was you who posted...

[K4L_2007]

Welcome here

thanks. how are you? where are you from?

Im great, thankyou

I come from Kurdistan

May I ask a maybe too personal question?
(You dont need to answer if you dont want to)

Do you feel more as a zaza or maybe as a kurd or as a turk?? Or maybe all?
again, if you dont want to answer its ok.

[nuray]

That's cool


You're my sister either way, Nuray...

Could you please upload an image to your avatar? I almost didn't see that it was you who posted...

thanks. ok i will think about avatar.

[nuray]

Welcome here

thanks. how are you? where are you from?

Im great, thankyou

I come from Kurdistan

May I ask a maybe too personal question?
(You dont need to answer if you dont want to)

Do you feel more as a zaza or maybe as a kurd or as a turk?? Or maybe all?
again, if you dont want to answer its ok.

[Darkseid]

And I think Zazas, Kurds, and Assyrians are Subarians and should identify themselves as Subarians. Since it would allow them to co-exist in a unified state.

Subar is the ancient Sumerian word for what lies beyond Babylon to the North. I consider it the area between Iran, Babylonia, Anatolia, Caucasia, and the Levant.

Subar was the name of Assyria and Kurdistan before there was an Assyria and a Kurdistan.

I think Armenia and Azerbaijan should also become a part of the Subar as well as the Iraqi Turkmen, which should identify themselves by a seperate name like Turkiraqis.

[nuray]

And I think Zazas, Kurds, and Assyrians are Subarians and should identify themselves as Subarians. Since it would allow them to co-exist in a unified state.

Subar is the ancient Sumerian word for what lies beyond Babylon to the North. I consider it the area between Iran, Babylonia, Anatolia, Caucasia, and the Levant.

Subar was the name of Assyria and Kurdistan before there was an Assyria and a Kurdistan.

I think Armenia and Azerbaijan should also become a part of the Subar as well as the Iraqi Turkmen, which should identify themselves by a seperate name like Turkiraqis.

they are occupying azerbaycan land already so i think have armenians give occupied land back to azeris and then armenians have their own seperate land.

[Darkseid]

i agree except that armenia should not be a part. they are occupying azerbaycan land already so i think have armenians give occupied land back to azeris and then armenians have their own seperate land.

No the state of Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia are administered independently. And the land Nagorno-Karabakh encompasses is still considered a part Azerbaijan.

The predominantly Armenian region became a source of dispute between the republics of Armenia and Azerbaijan when both countries gained independence from the Russian Empire in 1918. After the Soviet Union expanded into the South Caucasus, it established the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO) within the Azerbaijan SSR in 1923. On December 10, 1991, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, a referendum held in the NKAO and the neighboring district of Shahumian resulted in a declaration of independence from Azerbaijan as the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR), which remains unrecognized by any international organization or country, including Armenia.

Nearing the collapse of the Soviet Union, in 1989, the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast boasted a population of 145,593 Armenians (76.4%), 42,871 Azerbaijanis (22.4%),[8] and several thousand Kurds, Russians, Greeks and Assyrians. Most of the Azerbaijani and Kurdish populations fled the region during the heaviest years of fighting in the war from 1992 to 1993.

In 2001, the NKR's population was 95% Armenian with the remaining total including Assyrians, Greeks, and Kurds.[9] In March 2007, the Republic announced that its population had grown to 138,000. The annual birth rate was recorded at 2200-2300 per year, an increase from nearly 1500 in 1999. Until 2000, the country's net migration was at a negative

That land and land between Nogorno and Armenia should be given to Armenia. Azerbaijan would greatly benefit from the extension of land from Iran, but it should also give land to other people.



Also, Armenia cannot remain an independent, seperate state. it has to choose between joining an Iranian Federation (for which I do not know how I'm going to establish), Caucasian Federation (for which I do not know how I'm going to get the Georgians and Russians to play along), and the Subarian Federation.

Why must there be these kind of federations? Well, why not? The use of these federations will allow larger states to be stablish in assuring greater protection overall from any invasion. It will also insure prosperity and peace. Furthermore, it is more logical to have these lands set up before we have a world government.

[nuray]

who hacked me? i am not asena.

[nuray]

i think my sister figen did this.

[nuray]

i delete offensive hack posts.