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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: kurdimemin_diako » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:56 pm

then thy will stay in countries borders :lol:
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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: Kubilay » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:44 am

kurdimemin_diako wrote:then thy will stay in countries borders :lol:

I'm pure turk and not stay there ok. I do think it wrong to send mixed people to countries borders.
I have 1 more question. There are pure kurds that support nationalist action party. They think there is no kurdistan and turkey belongs to the turks. They are for turkic federation too. Where you send them to?

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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:40 pm

Kubilay wrote:
kurdimemin_diako wrote:then thy will stay in countries borders :lol:

I'm pure turk and not stay there ok. I do think it wrong to send mixed people to countries borders.
I have 1 more question. There are pure kurds that support nationalist action party. They think there is no kurdistan and turkey belongs to the turks. They are for turkic federation too. Where you send them to?


i have 1/8 "turkish" in me, but that does not mean that you are not right kurd. nobody can tell it. i am pure kurd.

the nationalist action party supporter "kurds" can go to hell. one other example is adiyaman, maras, malatya these provinces are 90% "kurds", but where are they? they have only 1% kurdish votes in votings. they are not even in new kurdistan maps for this reason.
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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: Barış » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:41 am

Well, Isn't Abdullah Öcalan's mother a Türk? He's still a pure Kurd, in my opinion.
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PostAuthor: kurdimemin_diako » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:05 pm

well he is a PURE Kurd in my opinion too.
(some say he is 1/4 turk . and 3/4 kurd . but I don't know it is true or not . )
but if he has 3/4 Kurd genetic and his great Love for Kurdistan then it makes him a pure Kurd in my opinion .
or some people like "kurd-sthanam" are pure Kurd .
I think Kurdayati is the most important factor to say who is a PURE kurd .
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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: kurdimemin_diako » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:12 pm

Kubilay wrote:
kurdimemin_diako wrote:then thy will stay in countries borders :lol:

I'm pure turk and not stay there ok. I do think it wrong to send mixed people to countries borders.
I have 1 more question. There are pure kurds that support nationalist action party. They think there is no kurdistan and turkey belongs to the turks. They are for turkic federation too. Where you send them to?

well if I could I would send them to hell .
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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: Barış » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:24 am

I think people who are not even ethnic Kurd at all that are for the liberation of Kurdistan should be allowed to live in Kurdistan...
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PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:26 am

yes, A. öcalan's mother is turk (turkoman) :D, founders of PKK Kemal Pir and Haki Karer were also turks.

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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: Kurdperist » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:49 pm

The day will come, when the Kurds declare their territorial sovereignty, and then we have to respect the rights of minorities, and believe me, we will ! The KRG is a good example, in the whole Middle East; they treat their minorities very well, maybe sometimes too good :lol:
And it is very radical to say, that Arabs, Turks or other nations aren't allowed to live in Kurdistan. I don't like the idea of demographic purism , and believe me, I am very nationalistic, but there is no need to be like Turks or Arabs...if we have our own sovereign country, and if these Turks or Arabs respect our nation and language there is no reason why they shouldn't live in Kurdistan.

By the way, I think we will have bigger problems, than the presence of some Turks in Kurdistan...just think about the big differences within our nation...Soranî vs. Kurmancî, the different religions, the different political ideologies...and of course, the Kurds in the south and west ("Northern-Iraq" and "Northeast-Syria") were strongly influenced by Arabs, while the Eastern Kurds were influenced by Persians, and the Northern Kurds were also influenced by Turks...this influence is recognizable in language, traditions and education.

PS: With all my respect to the turkish founders of the PKK, but I think these persons just needed a place to fight for their political interests (communism)...it was the same with the kurdish movement in Southern Kurdistan...some opposition members in Iraq (e.g. Eyad Allawi) were with the kurdish movement, and after the liberation of the Baath, they become enemies of kurdish interests...just imagine how Eyad Allawi is sitting with previous Baath- members like Necefî :lol:
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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:17 pm

Kurdperist wrote:PS: With all my respect to the turkish founders of the PKK, but I think these persons just needed a place to fight for their political interests (communism)...it was the same with the kurdish movement in Southern Kurdistan...some opposition members in Iraq (e.g. Eyad Allawi) were with the kurdish movement, and after the liberation of the Baath, they become enemies of kurdish interests...just imagine how Eyad Allawi is sitting with previous Baath- members like Necefî :lol:


no i dont think so. kemal pir and haki karer were respectful leaders, idols and i dont think it is good to compare them with enemies/enemies of kurdish interests. :? they are heroes. to be kurdish hero does not need to be kurdish in origin. Kemal Pir, died in a hunger strike in Diyarbakir prison. they cannot be compared with thoose you talk about!

there were always big communist movements in turkey, but they choosed to fight for kurdistan, not primary their communists interests. I have read from them, and they sad that they are fighting for free kurdistan, but that their party(PKK) ideologi is marxism. they sad a oppressed people do not need to be marxist. they were tortured brutally more than their kurdish brothers, because they were turks among kurds.
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Re: Hello Kurds!

PostAuthor: Kurdperist » Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:36 pm

I know the PKK- history, and the history of the turkish founders within the PKK, and I respect Haki Karer and Kemal Pir. I even think that people like Mazlum Dogan, or these turkish founders were stronger than Abdullah Ocalan, because they sacrificed themselves, for their believes.

But, people like Eyad Allawi were also supporters for free Kurdistan, and when they got power they change their opinion, because the majority of a nation want to increase their territory, and not to decrease it.

It is just my point of view...
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