Belingaz - Bi xêr hatî...

[Diri]

Welcome to Roj Bash Kurdistan forums, Belingaz...


Please tell us something about yourself... We are most curious!

Where in Kurdistan are you from? And what do you do now?

Dîsa, bi xêr hatî...

[red wolf]

welcommmee

[Belingaz]

Roj Bash
hmm Lemmee seee
Well, I am currently living in USA. I have BS in International Relations and soon will have another BS in International Business. I love philosophy, history and political theories. I have read a lot of classical philosophy, but never enough.
I saw this web site a few days ago, and after looking through for a few minutes I had to sign on, becuase like most Americans I have a big mouth and have to put my two cents worth in, other than that, I believe that Blogs or site such as this are an excellent way to meet other young Kurds who are frusterated with our dilemma as am I and we want to scream it to the world.
I do not speak a second language...turki, arabi or farsi....although, when I first came out of Iraq (17 years ago) I was fluent in in Arabi and since then I have conveniently forgotten it.
I am originally from the border of Turkey and Iraq...Hekkar area...but I was born in Duhok...it was a nice little town. I really do not consider myself a Kurd of one area in Kurdistan...I am the child of a couple of Kurdish hippies and believe me they lived in every part...so I have taken citizenship of all parts of Kurdistan.
çi dî tir? eger min tishek ji bîr kr bît....feel free to question.
Diri thanks for taking the time to start this thread.....zor zor sopas!
Red Wolf....mash allah Gorge Sor is a very threatening beast...should I start running? lol you are welcome too bro.
I Normally tend to write books..so I am gonna stop right here for now.

[Diri]

My pleasure bro..

What's the name of the town you are originally from - the one in Colemêrg (Hekarî) I mean...

I am from Colemêrg too... I call it Nawka Kurdistanê...


(What? - "Dilê Kurdistanê" was already taken... )

[Belingaz]

WoW Diri, you are the first fellow Hekkari I have come across in a long time...actually the first one ever.
The village in Colemerg that we are from is called Beyt Shebab ( arabi for Mala Genca) chima arabiye? xwede ez nizanm....bes dizanm naveke arabiye....ez hizir dikim Kurdi birha bo!
I have never been to Hekkar or Culemerg...but my parents have... i am so jlus of them but what can I do? lol I suppose rojekê ji van rojên delal ezê parzinê xwe heligirim u dest bi rêya Hakkarî dikim.
Bi rasti? Nawka Kurdistane? interesting...maybe it sits in the middle of Kurdistan...and I guess that Dile Kurdistane was already reserved...although I have run across many duplicate names of villages between Bakur and Bashur.....
Have you been to Colemerge recently? if so....you must tell me all about it! I want to know every little detail, as well....as the low down and dirt on my village?
see ya bro
lol "Nawka Kurdistane" you know that in some areas that means Belly Botton? hehehe I love it....I am going to tell my parents about it.

[Diri]

WoW Diri, you are the first fellow Hekkari I have come across in a long time...actually the first one ever.
The village in Colemerg that we are from is called Beyt Shebab ( arabi for Mala Genca) chima arabiye? xwede ez nizanm....bes dizanm naveke arabiye....ez hizir dikim Kurdi birha bo!
I have never been to Hekkar or Culemerg...but my parents have... i am so jlus of them but what can I do? lol I suppose rojekê ji van rojên delal ezê parzinê xwe heligirim u dest bi rêya Hakkarî dikim.
Bi rasti? Nawka Kurdistane? interesting...maybe it sits in the middle of Kurdistan...and I guess that Dile Kurdistane was already reserved...although I have run across many duplicate names of villages between Bakur and Bashur.....
Have you been to Colemerge recently? if so....you must tell me all about it! I want to know every little detail, as well....as the low down and dirt on my village?
see ya bro
lol "Nawka Kurdistane" you know that in some areas that means Belly Botton? hehehe I love it....I am going to tell my parents about it.

Beyt Shebab? Is that the Kurdish standard Latînî way of writing it?

I never heard of that one... It must be on the souther tip of Colemêrg... Bira you shouldn't use the name "Hekkari" because it's not politically correct. For starters that is the name Turkey uses on the province. And secondly "Hakkari" is a limited area - only the part in Bakûr (Northern Kurdistan)... Colemêrg is the old and rightful name of the Province - and it defies the borders of todays countries... The capital of Colemêrg should be Ûrmiye... It is the largest city within the Province...

Neighbouring Provinces:

South: Soran
South-East: Mûkriyan
North: Wan
West: Botan
South-West: Badînan

I call it Nawka Kurdistan... And it DOES mean "Belly button of Kurdistan"... That is exactly why I call it that... Because it's in the middle of Kurdistan... From Zara in the North-West of Kurdistan and down to Êlam in the South-East - you'll find Colemêrg is in the center of Kurdistan... Therefore it is Nawka Kurdistanê...

Since you say "in some areas that means Belly Botton" - it means you call belly button by another name? What do you call it? In Colemêrg we call a belly button for "Nawik/Nawk"...

Glad you like it...

Yes I was in Colemêrg some years back... And this summer I was in Bashkala - southern Wan Province... That's just aout 20-30 km north of Colemêrg Province...

It was beautiful as always... Breath-taking... I posted a thread with pictures from my trip... I'll dig up the thread!

[Belingaz]

lol sorry...thanks for the correction. I really do not know much about the geography of kurdish provinces old or new....I am the first to admit that i need to learn...unfortunately haven't yet. and sorry if i stepped on your toes ...It will not happen again...yeah right..it will happen everyday...it is exactly what these debates are for.
as to the Nawka Kurdistane...it is the same but the Badenan people actually pronounce it a bit differently...they say Navik...or nafk very lightly
as to the old village....i have no idea where it is ...all i now is that it is somewhere in culemerg...that is the old name of it...presently it may be called something else...i will find from my parents what the name of it may be...but to my understanding that is what it used to be called. as i have not been there and not seen it with my own two eyes, i will rely on your intellect to direct me to right corner of the kurdish territory, lol just kidding.
i know there is something else i need to be writting, but i cannot think of it now...it will come to me in the middle of the night...then i will be sure to post.
oh, by the way...i was in Wan too...last year. I stayed in diyarbakir as well, then we had lunch in merdin.....i loved the food...it was fried something or another. i loved it. I was there with my sister...we traveled 6 hours to get to diyarbakir...when we finally got there...we did not know where to go...hahaha it was so funny...two lost kids in a big city...very comical actually but sounds tragic.
see ya and thanks for the clarification
bye bye

[Diri]

Awwww I like you a LOT...

You appear VERY sympathetic... I like that...


Don't worry at all... And no you didn't step on my toes! And I hope I didn't intellectualize you or offend you - I just tend to be a bit strict with people, as well as myself, when it comes to being politically correct what concerns Kurdistan and Kurds.

Since you said it used to be part of Colemêrg (as in Hekarî in Bakûr Kurdistan), I assume you meant it is now part of Southern Kurdistan - so therefore I thought perhaps it's in the south of historical Colemêrg...

Yeah - tell me about it... Badînî always like that - Bûk becomes Bîk etc...

So where did you grow up?

And how old are you by the way, if you don't mind me asking...

I am 21 - and I study at the university and bla bla bla... What about you?

[Belingaz]

Nah...no offending bro... maybe i got a few good points of out this conversation. who knows.....I think I will start calling you mamosta ( by the way to us mamosta is a good thing, i know in some areas it belittles one's social standing, but I totally am trying to do the opposite)
anyhooo ...I lived in Mardîn for a couple of years, prior to that I lived in an Arab/Yezid mixed village....in Iraq... we left when I was ten years old...I actually grew up in South East USA....life here is very comfertable...I am in a laid back city and we have a large Kurdish population. I am very much older than you little bro (25) , but mash allah your knowledge exceeds mine abundantly...may Zerdesht give you more....

[AlbaSaab]

Nah...no offending bro... maybe i got a few good points of out this conversation. who knows.....I think I will start calling you mamosta ( by the way to us mamosta is a good thing, i know in some areas it belittles one's social standing, but I totally am trying to do the opposite)
anyhooo ...I lived in Mardîn for a couple of years, prior to that I lived in an Arab/Yezid mixed village....in Iraq... we left when I was ten years old...I actually grew up in South East USA....life here is very comfertable...I am in a laid back city and we have a large Kurdish population. I am very much older than you little bro (25) , but mash allah your knowledge exceeds mine abundantly...may Zerdesht give you more....

Hello.

[Diri]

Nah...no offending bro... maybe i got a few good points of out this conversation. who knows.....I think I will start calling you mamosta ( by the way to us mamosta is a good thing, i know in some areas it belittles one's social standing, but I totally am trying to do the opposite)
anyhooo ...I lived in Mardîn for a couple of years, prior to that I lived in an Arab/Yezid mixed village....in Iraq... we left when I was ten years old...I actually grew up in South East USA....life here is very comfertable...I am in a laid back city and we have a large Kurdish population. I am very much older than you little bro (25) , but mash allah your knowledge exceeds mine abundantly...may Zerdesht give you more....

Hahaha

Thank you, keko! Her bijî birayê shirînim! And you are free to call me what you want... I like your empathic and sympathic nature... Very cool...

So you are Zerdeshtî/Êzidî?


Ser chawan...

Ps. You are only 4 years older than me...

[Belingaz]

Hi Alba Saab!
How are you dear? I love your debative nature. I just wanted to say..I love the Sacratic method as well. You are awesome...keep up the good work and I hope to learn much from you.
sometimes share a little of your knowledge with us....I love learning from everyone I meet.
well , take care and I wish you the best in everything
bye bye

[Belingaz]

Roj Bash Diri Bira
Cavani te?
Actually no, I am not Yezid....but I did grow up with them.
"I like your empathic and sympathic nature... Very cool... "

someone once said one can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar......lol I am not trying to catch flies per se...but you can see where I am headed with this


I think I will call you Bira...amongs us Kurds this word not only signifies a strong bond of blood and kinship , but it also signifies something much stronger and much more deeper .....indeed I am glad to be called bira too.
erê Bashe bira ê biçuk.... ta carak dî...bimînî li nava xêr u xweshiya..Herdem Bextewar bî.
Roj Bash

[UE_kurdophile]

Welcome Belingaz!!

Sorry I haven't welcomed you before, but I am very busy ,as I am writing my thesis (I study International and Diplomatical Sciences,which is more or less like the the one you did International Relations ).

What else can I say about myself? You already know everything!!!

Nice to meet you, bira! (my knowledge of sorani is too poor to write you something more in your language, I should study harder)

[Lyn]

Bi xêr hatî, Belingaz!