Roj Bash Kurdistan

Hello Kurdish friends! I am Movses. I as Armenian am interested in the beautiful culture and people of the Kurds. As an Armenian from Armenia, I see many similarities in the culture of Armenians & Kurds. After all, we've been neighbours for ages....Also, Kurdish people, especially in Southeast Turkey look a lot like Armenians. Only Kurds and maybe Georgians look so much like Armenians, I would say Kurdish women are very beautiful as well.

We also share our opposition to Turkey and its policies. I see how the Turks suppress Kurds, and throw innocent children into jails. Hopefully on day, there will be a truly united Kurdistan. In Armenia there lives about 40 thousand Yazidis, which are very similar to Kurds. My ancestors came from Sasun an ancient Armenian area (present day Sason in Batman Province), but because of the Genocide they had to flee to present day Armenia. So I have connection with the southeast of Turkey. I hope to learn more about Kurds, and their politics and culture here.

Barev Movses

Welcome to the forum. Everybody's welcome here specially our historical brothers such as Armenians. You are right abt the cultural and historical (in addition to linguistic) likenesses between us both. One point I would like to make mention of is that our first ancestors, namely Hurrians, had most likely left Caucasia for our present day home. Their migration date to here even antedates those of Assyrians and Aryans. I wish you a happy and instructive time over here and we hope to know more abt our Armenian relatives thru you. My activity in the forum is restrained to the language section as a self-imposed matter (since I personally believe only in linguistics ). So feel free to ask any thing regarding linguistics. Once again welcome bro.

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:Barev Movses

Welcome to the forum. Everybody's welcome here specially our historical brothers such as Armenians. You are right abt the cultural and historical (in addition to linguistic) likenesses between us both. One point I would like to make mention of is that our first ancestors, namely Hurrians, had most likely left Caucasia for our present day home. Their migration date to here even antedates those of Assyrians and Aryans. I wish you a happy and instructive time over here and we hope to know more abt our Armenian relatives thru you. My activity in the forum is restrained to the language section as a self-imposed matter (since I personally believe only in linguistics ). So feel free to ask any thing regarding linguistics. Once again welcome bro.

thanks for the warm welcome. I also have a great interest in languages and linguistics. I will study linguistics at university. I've always been interested in the Kurdish language also.

Mov wrote:Hello Kurdish friends! I am Movses. I as Armenian am interested in the beautiful culture and people of the Kurds. As an Armenian from Armenia, I see many similarities in the culture of Armenians & Kurds. After all, we've been neighbours for ages....Also, Kurdish people, especially in Southeast Turkey look a lot like Armenians. Only Kurds and maybe Georgians look so much like Armenians, I would say Kurdish women are very beautiful as well.

We also share our opposition to Turkey and its policies. I see how the Turks suppress Kurds, and throw innocent children into jails. Hopefully on day, there will be a truly united Kurdistan. In Armenia there lives about 40 thousand Yazidis, which are very similar to Kurds. My ancestors came from Sasun an ancient Armenian area (present day Sason in Batman Province), but because of the Genocide they had to flee to present day Armenia. So I have connection with the southeast of Turkey. I hope to learn more about Kurds, and their politics and culture here.

Hello mate, its nice to see that armenians have a diffrent opinion regarding kurds then assyrians do, you are very welcome, and you can ask me anything from culture to politics.

Mov wrote:thanks for the warm welcome. I also have a great interest in languages and linguistics. I will study linguistics at university. I've always been interested in the Kurdish language also.

You're welcome buddy. What a coincidence man! It is gladdening to hear it. So when will you commence your courses? I also cherish studying linguistics at university nonetheless my present academic field is irrelevant.

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:

Mov wrote:thanks for the warm welcome. I also have a great interest in languages and linguistics. I will study linguistics at university. I've always been interested in the Kurdish language also.

You're welcome buddy. What a coincidence man! It is gladdening to hear it. So when will you commence your courses? I also cherish studying linguistics at university nonetheless my present academic field is irrelevant.

soon enough, few months. Do you know any good Kurdish language resources on internet or books? I would like to get myself acquainted with that language, and also assess its similarity with Armenian.

Mov wrote:soon enough, few months. Do you know any good Kurdish language resources on internet or books? I would like to get myself acquainted with that language, and also assess its similarity with Armenian.

Well unfortunately, as a matter of fact, we are fatally lacking in comprehensive works on Kurdish at all. You may have a glance at McKenzie's articles as well as Diakonov*'s (I aint sure abt the spelling). But as I already said they are by no means comprehensive, for example it is sarcastic to affirm that McKenzie's article on origins of Kurdish doesnt encompass one of the three major Kurdish dialects (Southern Kurdish)! I always hold it that we, people of the fabulous Orient, are the best to take care of what is concerning us. That is to say I do not blame McKenzie or any other Western orientalist for their incompetency, regarding to study East, is kind of inevitable. Anyways for more precise information and materials on Kurdish language, provided by Kurds in an almost day-to-day manner, you should not miss it:

http://www.kurdishacademy.org

There we got linguistic forums too.

Emanoelkurdistani wrote:

Mov wrote:soon enough, few months. Do you know any good Kurdish language resources on internet or books? I would like to get myself acquainted with that language, and also assess its similarity with Armenian.

Well unfortunately, as a matter of fact, we are fatally lacking in comprehensive works on Kurdish at all. You may have a glance at McKenzie's articles as well as Diakonov*'s (I aint sure abt the spelling). But as I already said they are by no means comprehensive, for example it is sarcastic to affirm that McKenzie's article on origins of Kurdish doesnt encompass one of the three major Kurdish dialects (Southern Kurdish)! I always hold it that we, people of the fabulous Orient, are the best to take care of what is concerning us. That is to say I do not blame McKenzie or any other Western orientalist for their incompetency, regarding to study East, is kind of inevitable. Anyways for more precise information and materials on Kurdish language, provided by Kurds in an almost day-to-day manner, you should not miss it:

http://www.kurdishacademy.org

There we got linguistic forums too.

Thanks for this. Kurdish is classified as an Iranian language. Armenian is its own branch, but it too shares many similarities with Iranian language. Given the origins of Kurds, I would assume that the earlier Kurdish languages were closer to Armenian. I think the relationship between our two languages can also tell a lot about our earlier migrations and origins. After all, language is such a powerful tool.

Welcome to the site dear Mov. I hope a prety Kurdish girl falls for you.

Welcome to RBK bro..
Hope you will enjoy your time here

Londoner wrote:Welcome to the site dear Mov. I hope a prety Kurdish girl falls for you.

Welcome to RBK bro..
Hope you will enjoy your time here

thanks or Sipas dekem

Welcome to RBK!

Have ya ever been to Glendale?

Barış wrote:Welcome to RBK!

Have ya ever been to Glendale?

once, but didn't really like it. Yerevan is much better

Mov wrote:Thanks for this. Kurdish is classified as an Iranian language. Armenian is its own branch, but it too shares many similarities with Iranian language. Given the origins of Kurds, I would assume that the earlier Kurdish languages were closer to Armenian. I think the relationship between our two languages can also tell a lot about our earlier migrations and origins. After all, language is such a powerful tool.

Anytime bro. Yup Kurdish is an Iranian language while Armenian is classified into its own branch, nonetheless they are both Indo-European languages from a more general aspect. To my knowledge there are three kinds of similarities between these two languages. First, there are a wide range of Parthian and totally Old Iranian words within Armenian which indeed could appear in Kurdish as a modern Iranian language too (e.g. Armenian "espítak" ~ Kurdish "sipí" from Old Iranian "sipeéte-ke"). Secondly, there are a significant number of words of Old Armenian origin findable in today's Kurdish (e.g. Kurdish "lízg" ~ Armenian "luís" both related to English "light" etymologically as well as semantically). And the third kind is due to the fact that Kurdish and Armenian are both Indo-European languages and thus they are likely to share specific similarities between themselves without borrowing from a tertiary source (e.g. Armenian "sírt" ~ Kurdish "zirk" related to English "heart" both etymologically and semantically). By the way there are some Armenian loans in Northern Kurdish subdialects-spoken in Turkey (e.g. "hélik" ~ "mirror" or even the term "Zaza" is allegedly an Armenian term meaning "stutter"). But they are dialectal influences anyway and not general. I am agreed too, language could tell on many things and it is a beautiful means to connect humans to each other.

Also regarding to your mentioned Armenian names (somewhere esle) I have to say unluckily our forenames do not represent that much likenesses as our languages do. Amongst your given masculine names I didn't recognize any but out of feminine ones two sound familiar:

Kurdish "Anahíta" (it is originally an Old Persian name if I am correct, the name of an ancient Goddess whose derelict temple is located on Kirmanshan, a Kurdish city in Iran)

Kurdish "Miryem" (no need to expatiate, the virgin girl who gave birth to Jesus Christ)