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Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:34 pm
Author: Torî
Silav

Okay, ez ê xwe bidima naz kirin ji wa re. (veca bi kurmanciya xwe ;)

Nave min Tanyel e û ez ji weka gelek ji wan li xeribiye dijîm (li dewleta swed). Ez li swed ce buma û careki tene ez cuma welate bav û kalan.

Ez nivi ermenima (ji aliye bav) û nivi Suryani. De û bave min ji mintiqa tore na. (Dora Midyadê) (Rojhilate Merdine)

Min xwe kira endam di vi forume da ji buyi ku ez vi zimani delal ji bîr nekim.

Li mala xwe ez daimen bi zimanen dî di staxilim, min kurmanciya xwe ji bapire xwe alemima le pisti bapire min cuya rahmete tu kes nina ku ez karim pe bi kurdi bi staxilim.

Veca ez ê ve forume carina teqib bikim de qane kurdiya min xerabter nebe.

Hiviya min ewa ji ku ez ê bi kari bim va gotinen erebi û Tirki ku ez istamahl dikim helenim û gotinen kurdi bikime cihe wa da.

Careki dî silav û rez ji wa re.

okay just a short presentation in english. My name is tanyel, I'm 22 years old and live in Sweden where I'm born. I'm half armenian and half aramean (suryani).

Since my grandfather passed away I have no on to speak kurdish with and that's where this forum gets in to to the picture by supplying me with some kurdish reading, I'm also really interested in kurdish culture and kurdish (middle eastern) linguistics.

Well anyway Greetings to all of you.

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:46 pm
Author: Kulka
welcome on our forum!

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:02 pm
Author: ideas
Welcome to the forum,

But I don't get it, are you an Armenian Kurd? or what?

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:05 pm
Author: Torî
ideas wrote:Welcome to the forum,

But I don't get it, are you an Armenian Kurd? or what?


I'm sorry if I was unclear, my dad is Armenian and my mom is Syriac/Aramean. So nope I'm not kurdish.

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:11 pm
Author: ideas
Interesting stuff, how did you learn kurdish?

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:11 am
Author: Torî
ideas wrote:Interesting stuff, how did you learn kurdish?


Actually I couldn't speak Kurdish until I was 18 years old, then I decided to learn it. Mostly because I found it ridiculous that I couldn't speak with my paternal grandfather as he only knew kurdish.

It should be said that I had some experience with Kurdish prior to making the decision so there where stuff I could comprehend.

Anyway I started to visit him more often and I also started to study Kurdish online. This was how I honed my comprehensive skills but orally I wasn't doing so good, then I made the decision to spend 2 months in Mardin. Not only did I learn to speak much better, it was also the best trip I've made ever.

It should also be said that my Kurmanci is far far from perfect as I use lots of Arabic loanwords and my rather thick Scandinavian accent is easily detectable. But I'm getting there eventually, and I hope that in 3-4 years time I'll be fluent.

Another great way of learning is to listen to music which I did a lot.

I'm also trying to learn Arabic and Italian, but that's not priority.

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:29 am
Author: Kulka
so your way of learning is similiar to mine - sorani :), including learning from songs! its also helpful to watch tv in original language - i am doing that. and like you i am going to visit Kurdistan - but south, Hewler. Mardin is beutiful city as i used to see on pics.
so your grand father is Kurd?

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:45 am
Author: Torî
Kulka wrote:so your way of learning is similiar to mine - sorani :), including learning from songs! its also helpful to watch tv in original language - i am doing that. and like you i am going to visit Kurdistan - but south, Hewler. Mardin is beutiful city as i used to see on pics.
so your grand father is Kurd?


Yeah watching TV also is a great way of learning. You guys have no idea how difficult it was the first time I listened to the Kurdish news show on Roj TV. I thought it was another language, even my grandfather who could only speak kurdish also had difficulties understanding as his Kurmanci is very different from the "official" language people are learning now.

No my grandfather was Armenian but his father made the decision not to pass on the Armenian language to him because in the area they where, speaking or even being Armenian was dangerous so they actually changed their ethnicity by bribing an government official. They changed it from Ermeni to Suryani.

My grandfather was originally from the Botan Region but our ancestors true place of origin is Elazig (Turkish), Xarpet (Kurmanci) or as we say it in Western-Armenian Xarbert/Kharpert which means "Rocky Fortress".

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:40 pm
Author: ideas
Thats great man, although Im a sorani speaker myself and not a good one, I don't know if I can help you. May I ask what your political stance regarding kurds is?

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:43 pm
Author: Torî
ideas wrote:Thats great man, although Im a sorani speaker myself and not a good one, I don't know if I can help you. May I ask what your political stance regarding kurds is?


I have absolutely nothing against any Kurds and hope that they'll succeed as soon as possible to attain an independent country of their own. I don't mean "independence" like in bashur, I'm talking about real Independence. And I'm sure that Armenia and Kurdistan would become great friends.

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:59 pm
Author: ideas
Thanks for your support, are you ever planning to visit south Kurdistan?

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:24 pm
Author: Torî
ideas wrote:Thanks for your support, are you ever planning to visit south Kurdistan?


Can't say that I've planned it but it would be really cool to go there and I do have some Armenian relatives in Zaxo.

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:31 pm
Author: ideas
Torî wrote:
ideas wrote:Thanks for your support, are you ever planning to visit south Kurdistan?


Can't say that I've planned it but it would be really cool to go there and I do have some Armenian relatives in Zaxo.


If you can, you should south kurdistan is great :)

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:37 pm
Author: Kulka
THATS RIGHT KURDISTAN IS BEUTIFUL. I KNOW KURDISTAN ONLY FROM PISC (BUT I AM GOING THERE IN MARCH) AND I KNOW SOUTH THE BEST AND I REALLY LIKE IT. ITS GREAT - BOTH CITIES AND NATURE.

KAK TORI - YOUR POINT OF VIEW OF INDEPENDENCE IS ABSOLUTLY RIGHT AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU THINK LIKE THAT ABOUT KURDISTAN. HOPEFULLY YOUR COUNTRY WILL BE FULL INDEPENDENT, PEACUFULL AND PROSPEROUS AS WELL.

Re: Silav û Rêz ji yeki Ermeni

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:36 am
Author: talsor
tu gelek bi xir hati hevali hija u tu li ser seri ma hati . Hevidarim ka kateki xos le gel me be borina . Kurdiya te gelek xosika u zor typatiya . Ev wised(pyved) arabi min li nivisandina te dit u min ji tera kir kurdya peti :D hevidarim be deli tebe . Cara ka di tu bi xir hati bo roj bash .

mintiqa=sar=nawja
staxilim =daxivim =de bayivim=qesadikim
alemima=ferboma
istamahl =be kar