Thoughts of the day every day in 2013

[talsor]

Sorry I am far too busy to take time from my work to answer all these comments -

As usual , you post racist comments and hide when things heats up . Racism should NEVER be tolerated on this site and I'm shocked nothing has been done about you with your constant racist comments about immigrants or blacks . The Ironic part in all this is that you are an immigrant yourself who is so ashamed to even reveal her back ground , so you pretend to be English .

though I wish to apologise to chili_pepper - KabirKuhi and especially to HZKurdi whose opinion I value greatly I made a joke that some thought was in bad taste

is racisim funny too you now ? Do you find this funny you ? It is the easiest thing in the world to be rude and racist and you need any special skills .

"Pericles was intelligent - if Kurds are his children than there must be mud in the gene pool "

I have never knowingly insulted any member personally - although I may have made fun of a few of them when they justly deserved it



But I wish to complain about talsor who has seen fit to attack me in person

You are acting like a victim now ?
You are a racist Anthea and I will gladly go through your post and make a special thread for all your racist comments against blacks and immigrants .

As for anyone else - if you do not like what I write then do not read it

This is a Kurdish site that deals with Kurdish issues not A racist feminist site . If we do not like what we read we will respond and if you do not like it take a hike . You are not wanted here nor are you contributing anything useful .

[KabirKuhi]

Lets relax and not offend one and other. There is no evidence yet that any group is genetically superior to on and other. The closest thing to that is that some beneficial genes are more frequent in some groups than other. F.ex Jamaicans have a higher frequency of fast twitch muscle fibers, which is related to high performance in sprinting. But there is no definitive evidence of genetic superiority. Genetics are also high individual. One kurd might be superior to another kurd, who might be superior to german, and a german is superior to a kurd. So on and so forth.

Besides I don't think military success and organization has anything to do with genes. It has more to do with resource-availability, geopolitics, strategic location, military experience, leaderships competence, and technology first and foremost.
F.ex at one point in time... a Kurd named Salahadin was able to defeat and outwit a christian kingdom whose leadership were almost entirely of west European origin. While a European named Alexander of Macedon was able to defeat several Iranic states. It's all relative to the conditions rather than genetics.

That said. Please refrain from offending one another, both moderators and members.

[Shirko]

To clear the record, I was only saying that Kurds seem to be more gifted at organized warfare than the people fighting them currently, like the Arabs and others. I did not and I did not say anything about Germans (I've been to Germany, and I knw that they are very organized and orderly people), Piling brought them up.


Arabs will admit that they are very un organized, and look at the Indians, they are smart, but the most sloppy and disorganized people I've seen (exveptayne some Afticans, like go watch a video clip of the traffic conditions in Abuja Nigeria for example).

[Piling]

Well I watched traffic on Kurdistan on roads as in cities and their sense of organization did not strike me, especially in Erbil at 5. pm…

[Shirko]

Well I watched traffic on Kurdistan on roads as in cities and their sense of organization did not strike me, especially in Erbil at 5. pm…

Ok maybe the Kurds are not that organizied either, but they have proven to be better fighters, being organized is not the only factor. And watch the film of them training and fightimg, look more organized to me. And what are you tripping out on today, I also wrote culturelly too, even somebody with a half a brain can see this. Instead of Anthea, you are attack me.

[Anthea]

To clear the record, I was only saying that Kurds seem to be more gifted at organized warfare than the people fighting them currently, like the Arabs and others.

I do not think that Kurds are much more organized in warfare - Kurds fight better because they are fighting for KURDISH land and KURDISH freedom - they have right on their side - they have to succeed

I did not and I did not say anything about Germans (I've been to Germany, and I knw that they are very organized and orderly people), Piling brought them up.

Germany benefited from the extra support it received following WW2 and all they have achieved is from hard work - and the support from Kurdish guest workers who helped to rebuild the country

Arabs will admit that they are very un organized, and look at the Indians, they are smart, but the most sloppy and disorganized people I've seen (exveptayne some Afticans, like go watch a video clip of the traffic conditions in Abuja Nigeria for example).

Indians are becoming extremely well organised and are developing extremely fast in the fields of communication technology - some of the best hackers are Indian

[Shirko]

EDIT my quote....

To clear the record, I was only saying that Kurds seem to be more gifted at organized warfare than the people fighting them currently, like the Arabs and others.

I do not think that Kurds are much more organized in warfare - Kurds fight better because they are fighting for KURDISH land and KURDISH freedom - they have right on their side - they have to succeed

I did not and I did not say anything about Germans (I've been to Germany, and I knw that they are very organized and orderly people), Piling brought them up.

Germany benefited from the extra support it received following WW2 and all they have achieved is from hard work - and the support from Kurdish guest workers who helped to rebuild the country

Arabs will admit that they are very un organized, and look at the Indians, they are smart, but the most sloppy and disorganized people I've seen (exveptayne some Afticans, like go watch a video clip of the traffic conditions in Abuja Nigeria for example).

Indians are becoming extremely well organised and are developing extremely fast in the fields of communication technology - some of the best hackers are Indian

[chili_pepper]

To clear the record, I was only saying that Kurds seem to be more gifted at organized warfare than the people fighting them currently, like the Arabs and others.

I do not think that Kurds are much more organized in warfare - Kurds fight better because they are fighting for KURDISH land and KURDISH freedom - they have right on their side - they have to succeed

I did not and I did not say anything about Germans (I've been to Germany, and I knw that they are very organized and orderly people), Piling brought them up.

Germany benefited from the extra support it received following WW2 and all they have achieved is from hard work - and the support from Kurdish guest workers who helped to rebuild the country

Arabs will admit that they are very un organized, and look at the Indians, they are smart, but the most sloppy and disorganized people I've seen (exveptayne some Afticans, like go watch a video clip of the traffic conditions in Abuja Nigeria for example).

Indians are becoming extremely well organised and are developing extremely fast in the fields of communication technology - some of the best hackers are Indian

[Piling]

Ok maybe the Kurds are not that organizied either, but they have proven to be better fighters, being organized is not the only factor.

They are good fighters because they fight sinces centuries (and bad warriors died soon). Not because of their red-yellow and green blood. But look at young Kurds living now in Suleymanieh, Erbil and Duhok, as pure urban dwellers : they are not genetic warriors, they are even less sportive and resistant to effort than many young Westerners who make sport (I precise I hate sports myself). So Kurds were strongs as so long as they lived as fighters and mountaineers. When you see those men with big belly taking a car instead of walking 20 meters, I doubt that strong genes will last a long time.

and watch the film of them training and fightimg, look more organized to me

As all armies in the world that is the minimal thing that is requiring from soldiers. What is make the difference with Arab armies is their motivation. No Iraqi soldier would like to die for Maliki.

And what are you tripping out on today, I also wrote culturelly too, even somebody with a half a brain can see this. Instead of Anthea, you are attack me.

You confound general debate and arguments with personal attacks and THAT IS a Kurdish attitude. I attack ideas not people.

I admit a genetic superiority of Kurds : they are able to drink a boiling tea or an iced glass of water without troubles while all human should die by doing the same

[Shirko]

I do not have time to sit down and write effectively, wait until later!!

[Shirko]

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Indians are becoming extremely well organised and are developing extremely fast in the fields of communication technology - some of the best hackers are Indian

Lets not get too excited , I did not intend for you to think that Indians are especially smart. I think they are just average, with over a billion of them, there better be a few smart ones. Anyway I was using them as an example because there many of them that are now highly educated, but they are still not organized, and I do not think that they ever will be. India is a train wreck waiting to happen. I do not wish to offend anyone, I like Indians. On an individual basis, they are successful.

[Shirko]

Well I am not fully agreeing with what you are trying to say here, and you always get all bent out of shape when I mention genes, for some reason. And you know what, I am a racist. But I am not prejudice, I do not really hate anyone and I can coexist with others. And maybe I think that my people have some special talents in some things, but that does not mean that I think we are better human beings because of that, we are all equal on that level.

Ok maybe the Kurds are not that organizied either, but they have proven to be better fighters, being organized is not the only factor.

They are good fighters because they fight sinces centuries (and bad warriors died soon). Not because of their red-yellow and green blood. But look at young Kurds living now in Suleymanieh, Erbil and Duhok, as pure urban dwellers : they are not genetic warriors, they are even less sportive and resistant to effort than many young Westerners who make sport (I precise I hate sports myself). So Kurds were strongs as so long as they lived as fighters and mountaineers. When you see those men with big belly taking a car instead of walking 20 meters, I doubt that strong genes will last a long time.

and watch the film of them training and fightimg, look more organized to me

As all armies in the world that is the minimal thing that is requiring from soldiers. What is make the difference with Arab armies is their motivation. No Iraqi soldier would like to die for Maliki.

And what are you tripping out on today, I also wrote culturelly too, even somebody with a half a brain can see this. Instead of Anthea, you are attack me.

You confound general debate and arguments with personal attacks and THAT IS a Kurdish attitude. I attack ideas not people.

I admit a genetic superiority of Kurds : they are able to drink a boiling tea or an iced glass of water without troubles while all human should die by doing the same

[KabirKuhi]

There is NO KURDISH GENES.

We're not sure about that yet. The human genome is still unexplored. But lets assume for the argument that there are no uniquely kurdish genes. But there are mutation versions and haplotypes(inherited mutation versions) that are unique to kurds. That is easy to substantiate by looking at the Kurdish persons genome and comparing it with a Europeans and a Africans.

Well I watched traffic on Kurdistan on roads as in cities and their sense of organization did not strike me, especially in Erbil at 5. pm….

That's unfair. France and Germany have had traffic infrastructure since the the industrial revolution, they've been mass consumers of cars and other motor driven personal transport for over 1 century. Kurdish roads and highways have only been there for a short time, and personal cars weren't common in Kurdistan and Mesopotamia at large until the 1930s and 1940s and in some areas up until the 1950s. So to take traffic as organization example is poor. If Kurds are disorganized then so are row of other Europeans. Kurdish unity is still an emerging ongoing process. It's an unfair argument from your part.

Besides you're using a long-term process of nationalization, as some sort of yardstick of organization. How politically unified were the germans 200-300 years ago? How unified were the french before the french revolution? What about the Italians who were divided into smaller Italian states? Those processes took hundreds of years for west Europeans, and you were in a strategically better position to do so than Kurds. West Europeans only faced each other. Kurds have faced dozens of enemies in comparison. Both external and internal enemies.

[Piling]

That's unfair.

I did not say that French drivers are better than Kurds. Look at Paris trafic at the same hour and we are more savage. But it has nothing to do with genes, for French people are 500% bastards in their blood. And that is a chance. Being a 'pure-blood' with a strong endogamy - is being a biological disaster, as we could see in our royal dynasties :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... es_054.jpg

Who would like to be like that ?

[KabirKuhi]

That's unfair.

I did not say that French drivers are better than Kurds. Look at Paris trafic at the same hour and we are more savage. But it has nothing to do with genes, for French people are 500% bastards in their blood. And that is a chance. Being a 'pure-blood' with a strong endogamy - is being a biological disaster, as we could see in our royal dynasties :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... es_054.jpg

Who would like to be like that ?

Well, purity in the sense that kurds descend from the same ancestors, not from one group. I highly doubt that kurds descend from one single tribe or that others have not had a historical impact on kurds(You can see this in micro input in kurds). However they descend from Kurdish ancestors. They descend from the individuals and people who formed the coalescence of kurdish people. You see, genetics are constantly refining and changing. As time passes, people diverge. In genetics there is a term for this. Founder affect. As biological entity reproduces, the variety it has is lost. So over time... kurds in a biological sense as any people, including the french, have been refined to their current day profile. Kurds genetically belong to the larger indo-iranian family, but diverged via isolation and living in a different homeland. This said, I take no stance on whether I think endogamy is wrong or monogamy is right. All I'm saying is that kurds are biologically unique, as are any people, this is what constitutes their purity. And they all share more or less similar ancestors. While say latin-america is not the case, due to them having such huge variety in ancestors, all coming from geographically unrelated and distant areas. Kurds perhaps mixed less than their Iraqi arab/ Anatolian Turkish neighbours, due to mostly living outside urban centers and their mountaineering lifestyle.