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Re: Food Room

PostAuthor: Piling » Thu May 14, 2015 9:35 am

I have a theory : if you eat something really delicious with a real pleasure, and a meal you made yourself with time and joy, you have the feeling to eat a lot, but in fact you eat less.

Something related to satiety : when food is good, your needs are satisfied in a shortest time than if you eat a healthy tasteless, monotonous and virtuous diet plate. I am sure than after eating 2 kg of plain boiled fatless rice you are hungry 2 h later ; with 200 g of Riz à l'Anglaise (sauté with butter) can appease you during 4 h.

I continue my Julia Child Diet, I will inform you.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu May 14, 2015 11:26 am

What is a good fat over caloried Quiche lorraine :

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Serve it with a salad, hot French bread, and a cold white wine ; follow it with fruit, and you have a perfect lunch or supper menu.

Mastering the Art of French Cooking, Julia Child : “Quiche lorraine”


I think that bread is useless. But at lunch I eat a half with salad. At dinner, I will eat the other half with pears.
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Re: Food Room

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri May 15, 2015 6:27 am

There is nothing fatter than a quiche lorraine : cream, eggs, bacon.

It made me lost 200g in 24 h. :-?

Today, I will try a more dietetic thing : an aspic with vegetables and crabs.
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PostAuthor: Londoner » Fri May 15, 2015 8:17 am

Piling wrote:I have a theory : if you eat something really delicious with a real pleasure, and a meal you made yourself with time and joy, you have the feeling to eat a lot, but in fact you eat less.

Something related to satiety : when food is good, your needs are satisfied in a shortest time than if you eat a healthy tasteless, monotonous and virtuous diet plate. I am sure than after eating 2 kg of plain boiled fatless rice you are hungry 2 h later ; with 200 g of Riz à l'Anglaise (sauté with butter) can appease you during 4 h.

I continue my Julia Child Diet, I will inform you.

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You become hungry not because of what you eat or how much you edat it, you become hungry because your body needs certain nutritions, which is expressed as hunger to push you to eat these required nutritions. So if your meal doesn't contain the required nutritions your hunger will not go away no matter how much or what you eat. you be sure eating a tasteless food but contains the required nutritions will stop your hunger.
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Re: Food Room

PostAuthor: Piling » Fri May 15, 2015 8:39 am

The pleasure to eat something you find delicious makes your brain secreting special hormons and inform in faster way your body that you have your nutritive portion enough.

Generally, your brain needs 30 mn after you begin to chew to register that you are full (that's why eating slowly and chewing a lot incites to eat less because we feel 'full' at the half of our plate).

The main point is that we are omnivorous and an omnivorous species always seek variety in food. One day, you desire a big juicy steak, the next day you think about a green salad, or you desire spaghettis.

I think our body is the master of our health and instinctively it knows what it needs. And its needs are never the same from meal to meal.

The pleasure to eat something is also due to the precise need it satisfies. Some people enjoy vegetables more than meat, while other enjoy meat, and others sugar, and other carbs or dairy, etc.

As we are the result of a genetic melting-pot, all individuals have different predilections and needs in alimentation. If I eat honey, or chocolate or even fruits when I am hungry, I feel bad, tired, nauseous, and sugar seems digusting. I can eat meat and dairy in big portions and feel energetic and light.

So I conclude I have more genes of Hunters-Shepherds ancestors than vegetarian farmers. My Dad was like that and my Mum could survive with only vegetables, sweeties and fruits. It is always interesting to check the tastes and diets of our relatives, we could discover that we can share our preferences, as we inherit of features, eyes colour, carnation.
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Re: Food Room

PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri May 15, 2015 10:14 am

I use a smaller size plate :D

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How the size of dinner plates affects portion control

Believe it or not, the size and color of your plates have a lot to do with portion control. Most of us really do eat with our eyes, so to speak. If you’re given a large plate or bowl do you only fill half of it? Most of us would fill the entire thing, and once it’s in front of us, we feel compelled to to eat it all. If, on the other hand, you use a smaller plate or bowl, you’re likely to eat — and be satisfied with — that portion.

A couple of years ago, I made one simple switch — I started serving my portion of dinner on smaller plates. Kind of like the difference between a standard plate as shown in the photo, and the smaller size, which might be more like a lunch plate. Even though I didn’t particularly need to lose weight, I have very slowly lost 5 or 6 pounds in that time. We tend to fill up whatever kind of plate we use, and I find I’m just as satisfied with the portion that fits on the smaller plate. In fact, I enjoy not feeling stuffed after a meal. I have another rule — I wait 15 to 20 minutes before taking seconds, and 95% of the time, I no longer want to after the wait, as that’s how long it takes for the message to reach the brain that you are satiated. Consider:

Since the early 1900s, the size of a normal American dinner plate has become at least 25% larger. In the 1960s, plates were roughly 9 inches in diameter. In the 1980s, they grew to around 10 inches. By the year 2000, the average dinner plate was 11 inches in diameter, and now, it’s not unusual to find dishes that are 12 inches or larger. And that’s aside from restaurant plates, which can sometimes resemble small boats! And of course, the larger the plate, the calories the food that’s on it can really add up.
Even the sizes of drinking glasses have grown, which means we’re adding even more calories by drinking them. It is better to use tall, thin glasses, unless you’re drinking water, in which case go for a big glass!

Some studies have shown that there’s a correlation between the color of your dinner plate and how much you’re likely to eat. People are less likely to overeat when there is a high contrast between the food, plates, glasses and tablecloths, for example. While you might take these studies with a grain of salt, one thing that’s hard to argue with is that most people will eat whatever is put in front of them, even if it’s too much.

An empty stomach is the size of a fist, more or less. It can expand up to 10 times its original size to accommodate food. But why stretch it? Once expanded, over time, it’s less likely to shrink back to its original size. That’s why smaller meals, and smaller portions are the wise route to take. And the size of your plates, bowls, and glasses can help you limit your intake at each meal.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri May 15, 2015 11:18 am

I do not think you need to control your portions if you eat vegan : generally it is not appetizing enough to make eat like an ogre ! :))


And in any case, as the fat you are allowed to eat is very limited : only oil, coconut milk, cocoa, you can eat without trouble, you will never exceed your needs. I observe it at each Lent.
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri May 15, 2015 6:01 pm

Piling wrote:I do not think you need to control your portions if you eat vegan : generally it is not appetizing enough to make eat like an ogre ! :)) :ymtongue:


And in any case, as the fat you are allowed to eat is very limited : only oil, coconut milk, cocoa, you can eat without trouble, you will never exceed your needs. I observe it at each Lent.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat May 16, 2015 10:52 am

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A fine documentary for sushis lovers (as I am myself).
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Re: Food Room

PostAuthor: Londoner » Sat May 16, 2015 9:28 pm

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A fine documentary for sushis lovers (as I am myself).


Raw meat, fish or red meat or poultry, is always healthier than cooked meat. When you cook a meat you kill all enzymes and many nutritions.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sun May 17, 2015 6:46 am

I love fried food, it is our contemporary SIN. :ymdevil:
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PostAuthor: Londoner » Sun May 17, 2015 7:03 am

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Fish and cheap is a very nutritious and healthy food apart from the fried part of it, which on the long term causes ageing and other diseases.
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Re: Food Room

PostAuthor: Piling » Sun May 17, 2015 7:24 am

lol without the fried part, fish & ships is just raw fish and potatoes :lol:
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Re: Food Room

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun May 17, 2015 7:33 am

If the fish and chips are fried in good quality groundnut oil and drained it is a fairly healthy meal :D

Provided the batter on the fish is not to thick ;)

In England a few years ago people actually bought the scratchings (the crunchy bits of batter floating around in the frier) and they really were unhealthy :))
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