Israel and Lebanon!

[Nissan]

Hey there, I was reading the postings and i was attracted to the first one you wrote .... sorry, but this is sadistic, you mean it's ok for me and my mother and the people i love to be killed in an ugly way ?? why you are saying these things???
Kurdistan should built on sacrifices and hard work, I know the arab, Iranian, and turky crimes against kurds especially those who are from other religions, but I
do not think that you or anyone has the right to decide sacrificing people...
I also don't think that Hezballah has the right to let lebanon inter into this ugly war, but they do not deserve this brutal unhuman response...For God sake What children have to do with it??
I did not help the people who came here, for me if I want to do something I will do it for the sake of my people and Kurdistan...still, the innocents do not deserve this barbaric attack.

P.S : I don't think israel cares about us if we have a country of our own or not...

[Lovetobewithfriends]

Hey there, I was reading the postings and i was attracted to the first one you wrote .... sorry, but this is sadistic, you mean it's ok for me and my mother and the people i love to be killed in an ugly way ?? why you are saying these things???
Kurdistan should built on sacrifices and hard work, I know the arab, Iranian, and turky crimes against kurds especially those who are from other religions, but I
do not think that you or anyone has the right to decide sacrificing people...
I also don't think that Hezballah has the right to let lebanon inter into this ugly war, but they do not deserve this brutal unhuman response...For God sake What children have to do with it??
I did not help the people who came here, for me if I want to do something I will do it for the sake of my people and Kurdistan...still, the innocents do not deserve this barbaric attack.

P.S : I don't think israel cares about us if we have a country of our own or not...

Maybe They wont care Kurdistan by their heart,maybe they care i dont know.But is it too important?Turks made Lausanne Treaty and enslaved Kurds,didnt they?Arabians are racist.Arabians dont like Kurds,do they?40 milions population ally country is very good for them,why do they oppose that?Of course,they support Kurds.It is more than a just we want a country or dont want,this is ally project.That is all.

Against dirty games and against big plans Kurds need strategic help of other countries.Or we will wait for centuries for having a country.We have to have allies.They didnt let us to have country have technology have enough money,we are 40 millions and divided not unitedand Iraq,Turkey and Iran are 200 millions,do you have better plans to having worse relations?I think nothing is wrong about what Trigan

Dont be saver of the problem,at first we should save ourself or it is meaningless.

[Nissan]

I'm aware of the necessity to a strategic allies especially in our struggle, and I'm one of the people who experienced racial activities from the arabs many times, they are not better than Israel.....
Maybe I'm extremly humanist to even hear the (kill) word, and maybe my antiviolence viewpoint is taking over me...still I believe that we should not be lenient toward our people lives.
At last I'm proud of our people struggle against these racial practises to erase thier culture and identity with all what it contains, and I want to be a piece of it, they tried to erase who i'm but they never could..

Peace, and always be strong.

[kingofmedes]

mr @zurderer;
your Turkish paranoia, and your emotional understanding of the ground is way backwards, your 83 years old system of denials , oppression, killing, assimilation, force integration finally will come to end, is now wonder such system craet such hero and emotional person with empty brain. Mongolian days are over!! Open your eyes, heroism is over!!! I would very very carefull when you saying
quote"….I wont care, If Kurds built their own country, Of course If they take 10 million of their brothers at Turkish land, otherwise I am against it."
This not just will blow your country further to pieces, but also don’t be not to be surprise or a stroke if one day you see Istanbul which carry 4 millions kurds also join Kurdistan, today things is done by will of peoples, if you so much proud your little turkey and proud is democracy and civil liberty , then i changeling you to put referendum in northern Kurdistan(eastern Turkey), let see wish of peoples!!
The problem is, it never has been land Turks, that is main problem, sadly ordinary poor Turkish family don’t understand and losing their loved one in battle filed,
Half your country unemployment, the inflation is height, your generals not just enjoying killing innocent women and children in Kurdistan, but also cashing in packet with drugs and money which they getting it from packet of stupid person like you!!
My advice to you Go educate yourself, go read history in different perspective, read the whole conflict based on reality on the ground, and not just based of your emotional Turkism, because that wouldn’t help anything, watching your TV and media propaganda, wouldn’t help your country, it make your more blind to see the problem your country facing, the injustice of Turkish regime toward Kurds is one of biggest tragedy of humanity, if you don’t have that simple human logic , seek it you will find through, or else look blind as others your fellow Turks has been doing all along, until your country days comes to end,
Remember is not you, nor your junta general to decided, fate of people of Kurdistan, they will decide their own fate!!, and more you proud and haters towards Kurds, and your empty propaganda of Turkism !!such as Turkey inseparable, etc.. the would be stronger division and reaction inside each single Kurd, in particular northern Kurdistan(so called eastern turkey), finally will Kurds will choice their own way whether by force as has been dominate for last 80 years , or by peace, which in that case Kurds as forgiven nation, after they declared independent they may forgive turkey!!
Well now also remember Today your arbitrary country so called Turkey , has been saved by USA ,a and European, from economy perspectives, military assistance battle against defenseless Kurds, you named it all , thanks to some strategic reason which west has been look it, but finally is slowly coming to end,

One more, PKK is reality, is party which politically and military have strong voice among millions Kurds, including me , your 1 mlion army with fully equipped American gun, is powerless against only 5000 gerilla(peşmerge),so be caution, when you talking 10 million, just imagine if I equip only 20 % of that amount of people , believe me I will march to Ankara and put my fit on your big daday”atttaturk” statute.

Remember Amed(Diyarbakir) is capital of Kurdistan, and with Kerkuk as its heart
until one Kurds left in this planet that still will be case and your little Turkey unity will be under fright and questioning, so far still 50 millions Kurds live , you better hurry up start killing them before is too late!!!

The glory of Medya, It is my blood!! It is my proud!!

[Lovetobewithfriends]

I'm aware of the necessity to a strategic allies especially in our struggle, and I'm one of the people who experienced racial activities from the arabs many times, they are not better than Israel.....
Maybe I'm extremly humanist to even hear the (kill) word, and maybe my antiviolence viewpoint is taking over me...still I believe that we should not be lenient toward our people lives.
At last I'm proud of our people struggle against these racial practises to erase thier culture and identity with all what it contains, and I want to be a piece of it, they tried to erase who i'm but they never could..

Peace, and always be strong.

Thank you very much. And you are really so nice good person.

Just in huge middle east with Arab majority and in this hard territory.It is good even for America having good allies like Kurds.Some people looks like they hate about this allyship without reasons or stupid reasons.I understand you even after all Arabian racism to Kurds to another races or another groups,it is not good what happens to them,they are still human.And I know this is just no good.But you should be realistic.For peace,at least all people should talk about peace,no fight honestly bravely.But it doesnt sims like that.Middle-East you know allways there was fights here.But America's plan that i see perfect national countries for peace that is cool.Maybe after that fights will be nonsence,distators will begone and people will work for peace or something like that.Arabs and Jews dont like eachother and we should practice not just thinking heling our dear religion brothers Arabians and not just talking about good things.Because it is all not the same.In fact,maybe Israel will attack Iran and neutralize them,is it bad for Kurds?This is just realism,not more than that and we are not killing babies.But it doesnt mean we are completely against them because we are not killing babies.This is TOO Emotional.

Nothing bad to you,really thanks for your goodnesss and thanks to you for helping me to write that.

Being humanist after all is just a fake to appear sweet to Muslims,populism and a way to satisfy themselves their egos.Soems do that.I prefer being realistic,thinking what i am doing thinking all people,try to praise my way.In fact,real humaism is in it.

[zurderer]

mr kingofmedes

I am talking about istanbul ankara ext, kurds should get out of istanbul and ankara, and turks should get out of diyarbakır.

I am talking about 10 million who live turkish cities, not diyarbakır or hakkari.

As you happily said,

istanbul which carry 4 millions kurds

should be emptied.

Than you can have independent diyarbakır. Otherwise I am against it.

[kingofmedes]

MR zurderer
You are a good Turks, my apology for my last comments; we shall sake hand, you having good point, thank you.

[zurderer]

I am not good Turk, I am talking about exiling of 10 million kurds.

And I wont shake my hand with you. You are worse than me.

[Rubar]

Israel will never forget when their synagogues were bombed by Turkish agents.

When ?

Hi Piling,

the fact that Turkish state was behind synagogue bombings was even picked up by the turkish media. This was the end result of Turkish states declared intent to 'teach Israel a lesson" which was well documented in the turkish media. In other words it was a message to Israel to stay away from southern Kurdistan. In deed turkish media reported how the attackers were being investigated by turkish police and a week prior to attacks the police were ordered to cease the investigation. Off course, the concerned parties are all well aware of this, so nothing we say is going to add anything new, it is all part of politics in the middle east.

The main problem is tha fact that the opportunistic relationship between israel and turkey does not have much of a future without the resolution of the kurdish question. Recent surveys done by an american company showed that anti-semitism and anti-americanism was worse in Turkey than any arab country. Only 16 percent viewed jews in positive light. the reason for such extrem anti-semitism and anti-americanism as pointed out by various kurdish politicians in turkey is the kurdish issue. While there can be short term aliances between the countries, in terms of the long term there needs to be a major transformation of turkish mentality. Whether or not this possible is open for debate. but one thing is for certain is that Israel is well aware that without the Kurdish card they will be unable to rely on the turkey. In deed when one looks at the history of Turkish-Israel relationship the main turning point is 1996, which incidentaly is when the Turkish state was cornnered by the kurdish struggle.

regards

Rubar

[Rubar]

But hey of course there was never official statement that Turkish state blew up synagogues.

You are realy stupid, arent you? With that synagogues other places attacked, and 50 people died because of this terrorist attack. But well after all, a terrorist(with limited mind) cannot understand this.

It was interesting to view the reaction of the public interviewed after the bombings. they were literally criticising the terrorists for not taking care in their actions and killing the "innocent" muslims in the street. I guess the synagouges were full of sinister jews plotting to destroy the world. there is no need for you to be convinced whether or not turkish state was involved, what is important is that israel knows, that is enough. you can talk all you like.

[Rubar]

P.S : I don't think israel cares about us if we have a country of our own or not...

a brilliant insight. I believe you are follower of the great international relations book titled "international best friends and enemies". can we kurds get through our heads that international relations between states is first and foremost based on interests. Nobody is nobodies best friend. No state is going to lose sleep over another states or peoples interest. it is only when interests collude that constitutes the basis for alliances. No there can be many jews supporting kurds or there can be many jews who couldn't care less and even against it. this does not change the strategic interests and needs of states which will be what they will base their policies on.

regards

Rubar

[kingofmedes]

Mr Shay!!

we have over 250,000 Kurdish Jews in Israel, the northern command of Israeli Army himself is Kurdish, also the town in north Israel which been hitting Hezbollah thugs are also mostly Kurdish in habitant . We love our peoples and not matter where they are, both side conflict, we are victim, however in Israel Kurdish like high class and as proud Kurdish Israeli working for their country ,Israel. In other side(lebenan), there is some poor Kurdish, who been forced by Turks and Syrian, they have settled in Lebanon, and Lebanese Arabs treat them like animals, most of those Kurds doing heavy works or construction with very low wages.

We understand Israel strategic alliance with Turkey, because Israel facing, deadliest countries of its kinds. The Arabs countries as well as so called Muslim world who like fascism keen to kill all Jews. But in other hand Israel have moral duty, which is is simple humanity matters, today the most which hurt Kurds from Turkish hand, is Jewish lobby in Washington D.C., who do everything for Turkey!! Many American been mislead or miss informed or politician heavily lobbied, to please Turks, with cost Kurdish life’s!!! Kurdish issue in Turkey, is matter of humanity, remember the founder of Turkish republic Atta Turks was great symbol and aspiration Hitler iin terms of fascism genocide against Jewish , today this system in Tureky Still in place and occupy large scale of Kurdistan land , and treat its inhabitant the Kurds like a slave, is worse than Nazism.

Why could Israel show teach Turkey some very basic Human right!!! Consider this: you may have few Arabs in Israel, which is Still Arabic as second official language of Israel, Arabs have same right in Jewish land as Israelis, and they can educated their kids with their own language and culture!!, Kurds in their own land are considered as forbidden race and fasces extermination, assimilation,. Therefore Israel have moral duty to full fill, more importantly for long terms peaces and stability, as well as balance of power, Israel should work with Kurds, State of Kurdistan will benefit Israel and bring peace and prosperity in region.

[Tirigan]

Current (and before him) Israeli defence minister is Kurd. More than 50% of Israeli army generals are Kurds. Israeli people accepted so much Kurds to their land because Israel people knew that Israel must fight lots of wars to assure their existence and stay in Middle-East. Because there was not enough population in Israel to fight for freedom and they knew that Kurds are not afraid fighting in the future against Arabs.

That’s why nowadays everyway you walk in Jerusalem you can hear Kurdish music.

BTW. Without Israel in Mid.East there will be never Kurdistan!