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Re: "Hi" from Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:47 pm

Well although I'm not realy suprised about the Hewlêrî vs. Silêmanî thing - I'll never be "okey" with it or accept is - they better change their attitudes... :?

It's true as you say... Nationalist Kurds in the West often take "brotherhood" for granted - just because we're in the diaspora, we tend to automatically look at "Kurds" as one unit and therefor may (most of the time) not be so fixated on our lesser differences - such as dialects/accents or geographical patriotism... When we are outside Kurdistan, we're suddenly the most united group of people ever to have walked the face of the earth...

Kind of like an Englishman meeting a compatriot in Cairo or let's say New Delhi - suddenly they're the best of chummies... :lol: It's just human nature: when in alien/unsafe surroundings we grab on to the familiar and safe elements we find...

But in England - you'll find Yorkers and Londoners at opposite ends in football matches etc...

So Hiner has a new movie out? Has it screened yet? :)

How exciting...

2 x on what you said about Turkey and the Turks...
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PostAuthor: Zia » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:58 pm

Diri wrote:It's true as you say... Nationalist Kurds in the West often take "brotherhood" for granted... When we are outside Kurdistan, we're suddenly the most united group of people ever to have walked the face of the earth...


So true! I think I mentioned my father doesn't speak Hindi or Urdu... because the Brits took his ancestors to the West Indies as indentured labour. So in the Caribbean, Afro-Caribbeans and Indo-Caribbeans don't really get along and have all sorts of slurs for the other, but in Canada we are all "sisters" and "brothers". (I am OK with this).

Diri wrote:So Hiner has a new movie out? Has it screened yet? :)


January 24 2007 in France. I am waiting for it to be available on Amazon so I can get it delivered somewhere with a postal service (IE Not Kurdistan). The Kurdish Globe advertised the opening (reopening?) of a Post Office, but nobody I know has tried to use it yet. Anyone want to test the Kurdish Postal Service by sending me a postcard?
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:34 pm

I'd love to - PM me the address, if you like - and I will send you a postcard from Norway - the land of the fjords, goat cheese and stiff people... :lol:
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PostAuthor: sicpit » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:40 pm

Diri wrote:I'd love to - PM me the address, if you like - and I will send you a postcard from Norway - the land of the fjords, goat cheese and stiff people... :lol:

most importantly the land of Odin :)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:43 pm

sicpit wrote:
Diri wrote:I'd love to - PM me the address, if you like - and I will send you a postcard from Norway - the land of the fjords, goat cheese and stiff people... :lol:

most importantly the land of Odin :)


Yes indeed - not to mention the VIKINGS! :D
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PostAuthor: Zia » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:45 pm

Thanks Sicpit,
I have PMed you. Can't wait.
If it works, maybe you can also send me a little salmon? Ha ha
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PostAuthor: sicpit » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:50 pm

Zia wrote:Thanks Sicpit,
I have PMed you. Can't wait.
If it works, maybe you can also send me a little salmon? Ha ha

eh I don't buy meat products with my own money. I don't care what the catholics say, fish doesn't grow on tree's... :lol: hm if you can give me any Ezidi artifact I will reward you with a gift or cash, what ever you so desire.
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PostAuthor: Zia » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:32 pm

sicpit wrote:if you can give me any Ezidi artifact I will reward you with a gift or cash, what ever you so desire.

Hmmm... I will see what I can do. Do stones from Lalish count? I could pick a few up.

As for the salmon comment, I am so sorry. I forgot you are a vegetarian.
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PostAuthor: Zia » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:10 pm

sicpit wrote:So Zia, have you been to Lalish lately? Hows Sincar doing since the tragedy in August


Just writing because I have some very different information for you on this. With the death of some 600 people, several children in the area were left homeless. The policy here is to place children with the nearest remaining relative and Unicef and other agencies/idividuals provide funds to sponsor those families. However, with the incident in August, there were several children left completely without family. My local friend is looking to find but how many and what the adoption policies will be. My friend may be one of the first to adopt!
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PostAuthor: sicpit » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:54 pm

sicpit wrote:
Zia wrote:Thanks Sicpit,
I have PMed you. Can't wait.
If it works, maybe you can also send me a little salmon? Ha ha

eh I don't buy meat products with my own money. I don't care what the catholics say, fish doesn't grow on tree's... :lol: hm if you can give me any Ezidi artifact I will reward you with a gift or cash, what ever you so desire.

absolutely, if you can send me the soil from the tomb of Sheix Adi ib Musifar, that would be very good. The soil is supposed to be holly
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:12 am

Thank you for the information Zia...


I do however think that the adoption policy would be something along with Êzidî beliefs: that they must be adopted by Êzidî families/people...

Don't you think?


Is your friend Êzidî?
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PostAuthor: sicpit » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:02 pm

Diri wrote:Thank you for the information Zia...


I do however think that the adoption policy would be something along with Êzidî beliefs: that they must be adopted by Êzidî families/people...

Don't you think?


Is your friend Êzidî?

I would agree with you, but a child is a child, and if a Ezidi is not willing, then I think a loving parent of any religion and race should do this. It's better then the child to grow up with a mentor. Ezidi would also probably demand that they be from the same caste as well. Such as a Mirid boy wouldn't be adopted by a Sheix or Pir. There are still some kinks in Ezidi that I don't like...
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:19 pm

sicpit wrote:
Diri wrote:Thank you for the information Zia...


I do however think that the adoption policy would be something along with Êzidî beliefs: that they must be adopted by Êzidî families/people...

Don't you think?


Is your friend Êzidî?

I would agree with you, but a child is a child, and if a Ezidi is not willing, then I think a loving parent of any religion and race should do this.


Of course I don't disagree with that...

But reality is something quite different than what we'd like it to be...

And about the caste system - it's still very prevalent in India as well...
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PostAuthor: sicpit » Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:43 pm

Diri wrote:
sicpit wrote:
Diri wrote:Thank you for the information Zia...


I do however think that the adoption policy would be something along with Êzidî beliefs: that they must be adopted by Êzidî families/people...

Don't you think?


Is your friend Êzidî?

I would agree with you, but a child is a child, and if a Ezidi is not willing, then I think a loving parent of any religion and race should do this.


Of course I don't disagree with that...

But reality is something quite different than what we'd like it to be...

And about the caste system - it's still very prevalent in India as well...


I agree with you, and I knew you didn't agree with it. Culture, traditions and rituals are great, when it fulfils a pracitical, spiritual or fun porpuse. They need to be rooted out, when they are outdated and uncessary. Yea India Caste system is much worst then that of Yezidi. Atleast Yezidi don't have an out caste. A murid is still apart of the caste
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:17 pm

sicpit wrote: I agree with you, and I knew you didn't agree with it. Culture, traditions and rituals are great, when it fulfils a pracitical, spiritual or fun porpuse. They need to be rooted out, when they are outdated and uncessary. Yea India Caste system is much worst then that of Yezidi. Atleast Yezidi don't have an out caste. A murid is still apart of the caste



Yes, you mean the "Untouchables"?

Do you watch Indian movies, Sicpit?

Either way - check out "Once upon a time in India" - where you'll find an example of this out-cast mentality... And the movie itself is very well directed... :)

You're very right about uprooting outdated traditions/aspects of religion/lifestyle...
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