hello everybody !!

[Diri]

I still haven't told them that this there is no such thing as "half-vegetarian" because it tastes so good this way- just a little meat and a lot of lemon.

Thanks for the laugh...


And of course you can cruise around and write wherever you wish...

By the way - concerning the vegetarian foods: South Kurdistan has the least varieties of dishes, seriously... The many years of war have made it's imprint on Kurdish food in South Kurdistan...

If you wanna talk about culture, food, language and whatever else Kurdish in it's fullness and wholeness - you must look to Rojhelat Kurdistan - East Kurdistan... Because there has been little or no restriction on Kurdish culture in Iranian Kurdistan... That's due to the fact that the Kurds are related culturally to the other peoples of Iran... Kurdish cousine is much like Persian/Balouch/Azeri/Afghan/Tajik cousine - it's an Iranic thing...

So sorry for bursting your bubble, Sicpit!

BUT - an immensly important aspect of Kurdish cousine which also is found by large in India: Tandoor (Tendûr in Kurdish)

[sicpit]

Thank you Zia, I don't know anything about Geography as far as Kurdistan is concerned, I would be the Yezidi populated regions like Lalish and Sincar. If you are still living their when I go there, and are close to where I would be at then yes I would love to meet up with you, and enjoy some great food.

Diri, I also really want to go to East Kurdistan. The sufi in that region are very immpresive and seem very spiritual people. Is tendor the same as the indian Tandoori? Like Tandoori Chicken

[nuray]

hello viko! welcome to roj bash kurdistan!

[viko]

Hello Nuray

[Diri]

@Sicpit

You'll find that there are sufi in Hewraman and other areas in far eastern South Kurdistan - around Helebçe (the city infamous for its chemical bombing)...

Tendûr / Tandoor = Oven... It's a floor oven basically - usually in earlier times, there would be two Tendûr's in Kurdish homes (we're talking rich people here) - one would be in a separate room outside the house (this they would use as an external kitchen - where bread was baked and cooking was done primarily) - and one would be more central often one large saloon/livingroom used in winter especially. The tendûr would then be a big hole dug in the middle of the room, with an exit outside the house for smoke... On this tendûr, one would put one of those small oval tables with legs short as 10-15 inches (25-35 cm) long... And on the table one would put either some fabric or more commonly woollen rug or plaid wich would be wide and long enough to cover the entire tendûr. And on the plaid one would put an oval platter or tray - on which they would serve beverages and food (breakfast, dinner, supper etc.) - and while sitting there eating, one would put ones feet in under the oval table - to the warmth of the tendûr - normally extinguished at this point ( )...

[Zia]

One of my Kurdish accquaintances was trying to teach me about Tandoor and how the earliest ones were discovered in Kurdistan, but being half-Indian, I just couldn't agree. The early ones in India were found in the extreme North (Kashmir etc) and were used for meat as there were some clay-types that were excavated that were dated at more than 9000 years old with bones beside them. The "K" in the Sanskrit word "kandu" (clay bowl-shaped vessel) eventually came to be pronunced as a "t". But the most were found in Harappa areas which traded with Mesopotamia. Tandoor made it to many many places.

After reading the above description, however, I wonder if the Japanese "kotatsu" were influenced by the Kurdish way of using the warmth to keep ones feet warm. The Japanese sell little tables with heaters under them over which they put a blanket to keep the heat in. They put their feet/legs under this. Blah blah. I am just writing now because it's late and this talk of Tandoor has made me hungry and I don't think "Abu Shahab" (no Domino's Pizza here) restaurant has telephone delivery.

[Diri]

After reading the above description, however, I wonder if the Japanese "kotatsu" were influenced by the Kurdish way of using the warmth to keep ones feet warm. The Japanese sell little tables with heaters under them over which they put a blanket to keep the heat in. They put their feet/legs under this. Blah blah. I am just writing now because it's late and this talk of Tandoor has made me hungry and I don't think "Abu Shahab" (no Domino's Pizza here) restaurant has telephone delivery.

@ telephone delivery...

Interesting - I didn't know the Japanese had that... I remember my mom baking bread in the tendûr... It's one of the few childhood memories I have - from Kurdistan...

One of my Kurdish accquaintances was trying to teach me about Tandoor and how the earliest ones were discovered in Kurdistan, but being half-Indian, I just couldn't agree. The early ones in India were found in the extreme North (Kashmir etc) and were used for meat as there were some clay-types that were excavated that were dated at more than 9000 years old with bones beside them. The "K" in the Sanskrit word "kandu" (clay bowl-shaped vessel) eventually came to be pronunced as a "t". But the most were found in Harappa areas which traded with Mesopotamia. Tandoor made it to many many places.

The Tandoor traditions of Kurdistan may well have developed parallel to the Indian ones... And we know there has been migration from India/Hindu-Kush mountains - which is near Kashmir - to Kurdistan and further... In e.g. the "Aryan migration" around 2000-1000 BC...

So we may well have inherited it from India...

[raman82]

From this board, ive noticed lots of the ladies are pretty much white chicks dating kurdish guys lol, its safe to say white chicks dig kurdish guys . Im wondering though , where are the kurdish chicks ? BTW your really pretty. I hope that didnt sound too high school lol

[Evin]

From this board, ive noticed lots of the ladies are pretty much white chicks dating kurdish guys lol, its safe to say white chicks dig kurdish guys . Im wondering though , where are the kurdish chicks ? BTW your really pretty. I hope that didnt sound too high school lol

Chicks? I've not heard that term in a long, long time, lol, but you're right, it's safe to say that we 'white chicks' dig our Kurdish guys... we've got good taste don't you know!

You'll also notice lots of non-Kurdish guys around here too, interesting don't you think?!

[Marie K.]

From this board, ive noticed lots of the ladies are pretty much white chicks dating kurdish guys lol, its safe to say white chicks dig kurdish guys . Im wondering though , where are the kurdish chicks ? BTW your really pretty. I hope that didnt sound too high school lol

oh yea its funny but myself its rather the opposite.

[sicpit]

From this board, ive noticed lots of the ladies are pretty much white chicks dating kurdish guys lol, its safe to say white chicks dig kurdish guys . Im wondering though , where are the kurdish chicks ? BTW your really pretty. I hope that didnt sound too high school lol

Chicks? I've not heard that term in a long, long time, lol, but you're right, it's safe to say that we 'white chicks' dig our Kurdish guys... we've got good taste don't you know!

You'll also notice lots of non-Kurdish guys around here too, interesting don't you think?!

Whats interesting is non of us non kurdish guys do not have Kurdish girlfriends

[Evin]

Whats interesting is non of us non kurdish guys do not have Kurdish girlfriends

Bless you, look at the sad face - you know patience is a virtue, I'm sure you'll meet the girl of your dreams one day soon, Kurdish or not, keep smiling!

[Evin]

oh yea its funny but myself its rather the opposite.

You're not wrong Marie, Kurdish guys just love 'white chicks' too

[raman82]

One of my Kurdish accquaintances was trying to teach me about Tandoor and how the earliest ones were discovered in Kurdistan, but being half-Indian, I just couldn't agree. The early ones in India were found in the extreme North (Kashmir etc) and were used for meat as there were some clay-types that were excavated that were dated at more than 9000 years old with bones beside them. The "K" in the Sanskrit word "kandu" (clay bowl-shaped vessel) eventually came to be pronunced as a "t". But the most were found in Harappa areas which traded with Mesopotamia. Tandoor made it to many many places.

After reading the above description, however, I wonder if the Japanese "kotatsu" were influenced by the Kurdish way of using the warmth to keep ones feet warm. The Japanese sell little tables with heaters under them over which they put a blanket to keep the heat in. They put their feet/legs under this. Blah blah. I am just writing now because it's late and this talk of Tandoor has made me hungry and I don't think "Abu Shahab" (no Domino's Pizza here) restaurant has telephone delivery.

I get into lots of arguements (friendly and i win) over this with my persian friends , they belive they discovered EVERYTHING apparently lol. They forget that during Persian rule in Eastern Afghanistan , Pakistan , Northern Iinda , they took pretty much imported the culture of the area . From rice, spices ,mathematics (im not talking like adding and subtracting im talking calculus and differenitial eqns , chess , fashionable clothing ,jewellry , cotton and silk were cultivated here ,everyone else was wearing wool or linen which is uncomfortable, the list goes on. When the Turkish sultanate arrived in 12 th century , they brought variations of these original ideas back from Persia, but in reality they were Indic to begin with .