Do not piss off Israeli commandos

[talsor]

I do not understand what these so called activist are doing here . By the way 6 Israeli Commandos were injured but no one seems to bother mentioning that .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbkg98R9ENs&feature=player_embedded#&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... tilla-gaza

[Saipul]

I find it funny now that so many Israelis are supporting Kurdistan. Where were you guys for the last 30 years? Why did Mossad give intelligence to Turkey which led to Ocalan's capture?

But now that they're interested, we should of course accept their support. Remember that Israel has more advanced military technology than countries like India or China. Even China's most advanced domestic fighter jet, the J-10, is based on Israeli military technology. Hopefully they offer more than words, though. The PKK needs weapons and financial support. The KRG needs investment.

[talsor]

I find it funny now that so many Israelis are supporting Kurdistan. Where were you guys for the last 30 years? Why did Mossad give intelligence to Turkey which led to Ocalan's capture?

But now that they're interested, we should of course accept their support. Remember that Israel has more advanced military technology than countries like India or China. Even China's most advanced domestic fighter jet, the J-10, is based on Israeli military technology. Hopefully they offer more than words, though. The PKK needs weapons and financial support. The KRG needs investment.

I asked the same question to an X PKK today and here is his answer .

I never thought I would say this in my life , but Ocelan was an obstical , a Problem and he was completly in disarray when it comes to dealing with the Kurdish issues . His Marxist Ideology , Anti Westren Mentality and sending PKK to fight against Isreal for the sake of appeasing Syria was a fatal mistake that cealed his fate . I'm glad he is in Jail and I hope he stay in Jail and If Israel was truely behiend his arrest then they did Northren Kurds a big service .

[Akam]

Sorry to be off topic but i have a quick question

What is the exact role of PKK in turkey, and what is the kurdish view on them in general, and why do the turkish call them terrorists?
are they terrorists? if not whats their defence? (because i hear they kill innocent ppl)

sorry but im not very well informed and all my search seems to be bias in favour of the turks and i want kurdish point of view as there different sides to every story

[Barış]

Sorry to be off topic but i have a quick question

What is the exact role of PKK in turkey, and what is the kurdish view on them in general, and why do the turkish call them terrorists?
are they terrorists? if not whats their defence? (because i hear they kill innocent ppl)

sorry but im not very well informed and all my search seems to be bias in favour of the turks and i want kurdish point of view as there different sides to every story

Okey, I'm not a Kurd like ya are. I'm actually Türkic, but History so happens to be my favorite subject, so I can't resist responding to this. As far as I know most Kurds consider the PKK to be ''Freedom Fighters'' and not ''Terrorists''.

Anyway, since around 1920 Türks have been oppressing and trying to assimilate Kurds to be Türks...
I suggest ya google search the following:

July 10, 1924 Kurdish revolt in Hakkari.
February 1925 revolt 30,000 Kurds killed.
March 3rd, 1925 Kurd revolution at Elazığ.
May 30th, 1927 , 2,000 Kurds killed in Amed/Diyarbakır.
Dersim Massacre 1937-1938
December 25th, 1978, Massacre of Kurds in Maraş.
December 1978, massacre of Kurds in Kahramanmaraş...

After ya have done the such, then I'd like to know if ya think of the PKK as ''Freedom Fighters'' or ''Terrorists''?

[Akam]

thanks brother
wil have a read soon enough when i have time and get back to you

[talsor]

Sorry to be off topic but i have a quick question

What is the exact role of PKK in turkey, and what is the kurdish view on them in general, and why do the turkish call them terrorists?
are they terrorists? if not whats their defence? (because i hear they kill innocent ppl)

sorry but im not very well informed and all my search seems to be bias in favour of the turks and i want kurdish point of view as there different sides to every story

Hevali hija

Pkk is Northren Kurdistan's defence force against Turkish occupation . While their long term goal is an independant Kurdish state , their short term goal is on autonomy within Turkey , similar to southren Kurdistan .

Being called a terrorist is simply a 'labels' pinned on them by friends of Turkey and countries that have an economic or strategic motivation for helping the state of Turkey. After all what do you expect Turkey to call them ?

Iraq used to call the Peshmargas " terrorist" as well
Nelson Mandel was labeled as terrorist one time too
Che Guevara was labled as terrorist at one time too
IRA were labled as a terrorist Organization too .

Almost all libration movement in the world were labled as a terrorist organiztion at one time or another .

[Saipul]

The answer to that question entirely depends on one's interpretation of the word 'terrorist.' Generally speaking I would say that a terrorist organization's primary purpose is, as you might suspect, to spread terror. If that's the case, the PKK is not a terrorist organization. It has never been their aim to spread terror through large-scale attacks against civilian targets. Certainly nothing they have done could be compared to terrorist groups like Hamas, which has used or tried to use hundreds of suicide bombers against civilians, or Al-Qaeda. The PKK has committed a few attacks against civilians, but the overwhelming majority of attacks (and I do mean more than 95%), especially since the late 1990s, have been against military targets. There are fewer validated PKK attacks against civilians than there are IRA civilian attacks, and the IRA helps rule Northern Ireland today as part of the power-sharing agreement. The PKK have also been called terrorists for using suicide bombers against military targets. Of course this is not really an act of a terrorism. The Viet Cong/North Vietnamese Army used the same tactic during the Vietnam war, and no one would call them terrorists today.