ASSYRIA

[Diri]

Well... I have seen another article in similar claims... But I choose to be critcal - I just brought it ups since you brought up the other thing... I put all the three links there because they represent three different views... Well sort of...

In one of the articles it has been stated that the Yezidi Kurds are know as Yezidi rather than Kurds because Armenia didn't want problems with Turkey...

I am very disappointed at the Yezidi who don't call themselves Kurds... We speak the same language, have the same culture and history and then the deny links to Kurds??? These are only the Armenian Yezidi Kurds - in South Kurdistan/Northern Iraq where the largest Yezidi community lives they first see themselves as Kurds and THEN as Yezidi... The Sun in the Kurdish flag is partly because of the Yezidi Kurds... They turn to face the sun when they pray...

[Rumtaya]

hi that is a good idea with going to mesopotamia anatolia etc.

but its hard to make you need money and a group who gives you safe.


but i have a good site there are all names of assyrian villages listied in which they live.


and there you can see a map about assyrian land

http://www.betnahrain.net/AssyriaLand/assyria_land.htm

[Diri]

My dear friend... I am very curious - Let's say that ALL the four countries agred - and gave that land in the map to Assyria... The map that you made a link to... How many Assyrians would be living in those areas? At the current time I mean... If you go there today you will see that there are only Kurds - and perhaps every thousand person you ask is a Assyrian or and Armenian...

I am not saying that it hasn't been Assyria - Just that it is impossible to have Assyria there - Like you have said yourself - Assyria should be Mosul and the Mosul plaines, Ninawa Province and parts of Duhok...

What do you think?


About the expedition - The reason I think it is a smart thing is because then we will all be sure what belongs to who... I can also make an internet site and put many names of towns and villages that are Kurdish... But it is not credible... We need to go there and see.. And when we been there it is possible to make a map of the area... Dividing it into Assyria, Armenia and Kurdistan...

[Rumtaya]

This is the assyrian homeland before 1915

today its mor northwestiraq and northeastsyrian and some area of of turkey maybe you heard about tur abdin.

this villages of syria are all true and i know them cause they are all near eachother


by side the first one of syria is my village hahaha

yes we will see how the map looks if there will be 2 new states but you dont only have to divide it into the people.


like look if you come to my house kill my my familie just my son is there and he run away after years he comes back and say this was of my father dont he have the rights to get it back or do you say no we have lived now here for lets say 50 years its us.

do you get my point.

[Diri]

Yes i get your point - And I support it! Absolutly! - That is what has happened to Kirkuk - We have been stolen from and want it back!...

But in the case of the land in that map... Do you know that Kurds, Armenians and Assyrians have been living on that land together? Kurds haven't been living there only 50 years... They have been living there for many thousand years - Just like Armenians and Assyrians... But be reasonable... Do you want all this land too because it was Assyria once? :




Do you want all that land? I know you dont---> I know you want the land in South East Turkey - Urmiye lake in Iran - Northern Iraq and North east Syria... But - in all these there is a majority of Kurds...

What do you prupose we do? Send them to Caucasus? Or maybe we can send them to Saudi Arabia

Do you get my point? I don't think it is right to say that we all must have the lands we had thousands of years ago - I am only talking about the land we had 100 years ago - And even then - even when there were 5 million Assyrians in these areas there was a majority of Kurds in the mountainous areas... Kurdish culture is based on mountains - Assyrian culture is based on rivers...

Today there are 4-5 million Assyrians in all of the world... Only 2 million live in the Middle East - and they are scattered around... They should come together and demand a state in Ninewa Province... Mosul can be your capital and you can have some areas of Duhok and all of Ninawa... Your nation was once a small nation just like all other nations - also the Kurds were a small nation before... But do you think 5 million Assyrians will come to Assyria?

There are currently between 30 and 35 million Kurds in Kurdistan... the rest (5 million) are in Europe, Russian, Australia and America... They constitute the majority of the population in 24-26 of the Provinces in Turkey, 7-8 Provinces in Iran, 4-6 Provinces in Iraq and in Syria these cities and others are Kurdish: Qamishlo, Hasaka, Afrin, Manbij, Qushlat, Rumaylah, Yusuf Basha etc etc etc...
And there are 40 million Kurds...

This is the map you want as Assyria:


But you are aware of the fact that at most there are 1 million Assyrians in all these lands -compared to 7-10 million Kurds...

I don't know which city that is - TUR ABDIN - Is it Mardin?

You know - Ancient Assyria was not a good state - It was oppressive against Kurds, Armenians, Greek, Persian etc etc etc...

We celebrate New Year - New Roz/Roj because "Kawa" killed Dahak! Which meant that Medya was free from Assyrian tyrani... This was 612 BC... And since that day there has not been any Assyrian struggle for Indence as I know of - please tell me about it if there has been - I know only of one situation where your Pasha (Kurdish/Persian word) was in London to discuss an Assyrian state in 1920 - But France and Britain didn't want it... They gave Kurds promise of Kurdistan but they broke their promise...

And I DO WANT you to have a state! I support it - but I think it is unreasonable to say that the Kurds in Duhok Province must leave--- They have lived there for thousands of years... Just like the Assyrians - they have been good neighbours... I support an Assyrian state in Mosul province and West of Tirgis... You will have your capital in Mosul and you can get some land from Syria when Syria falls...

You see? We realy need to make a expedition to our lands and see what we should do... Yes it costs money... Of course.. But I am n ot afraid of danger - there is no danger... We should plan a trip in about 5 years - right?

[Rumtaya]

Ok thanks for your point of few you have right but i didnt mean i all want that. for me its improtant to have the heartleand of assyria about other things well its gone we cant change it.

just you have to understand me my friend if there wouldnt be killed so much assyrians all 40 years we would be like 30 million do you understand what i mean and we would have also a majority.


in aina.org there is a timetable of what happend to assyrians.

And to the brithish and france your wrong they have promiesed us a state too. but they had seen and thought about it if we gave them its hard to get the oil its all a thing about this fucking oil sorry if i say that but that is the truth.

they didnt care about us or about kurds. they just used us that the young turks dont get mosul and kirkuk they had assyrian soldiers in the colonies who lik ei can say hit out the turks from iraq and as we wanted to get hakkari they british said to us no stay here we dont do anything.

so after the arab iraq army have been forced they stopped the assyrians to deal with them in army.

the same happend in syria there were like 40 000 westassyrian soldiers the one with the most power in syria. after french had that what they want they spilt the army and took back all the weapon and let the arabs become the rules of syria too.


one thing more they wanted to bring the assyrians to brasil. what do you think why they wanted that?

they wanted to brought us their that we loose our rights that they dont have the problems cause i can tell you assyrians are very good fighter.


and we had this agha patros he said turkish havent been no problems iraniens havent been no problem. just the kurds have been also good fighters.

you have to see it always from bouth sites.


my assyria i want in northwest iraq the ninawa area and the under part of dohuk.


and no i dont want this whole assyria cause that was what they have fight to get it and killed. i just want the assyrian seattle places the nineveh plains.

[Diri]

I totally understand you my brother---> You have been genocided... And I am very sorry for that...

What I meant was that there was no signed agreement about Assyria - but France and UK signed an agreement about Kurdistan - The treaty of Sèvres is the result of the Ottoman breakup - and then the Young Turks didn't accept that - Atatürk... He was a bastard - litterally - It has been proved that he was the son of a prostitute...

Anyway - I FULLY support Assyria and I want you to be our allies - We can be VERY strong if we are united!

Yes - they only cared about the BLACK DEATH... MAY GOD PUNISH THEM FOR IT! AND frankly God HAS punished them - London was bombed...
Still - I condemn it!

Yes - If Assyrians weren't genocided you would have been a much larger number... Just like the Armenians... And the Greek - but also the Kurds have been killed in millions! The last 80 years over two million Kurds have been killed by Turkey - And more than 6 million have been forced assimilated!

Yes - there are many assimilated Assyrians, Armenians and Kurds - also Greek... And we know that we are the majority in Turkey - because only 10-15 % of Turkey is Turks... The rest is Kurds, Greek, Armenian and Assyrian...

We need to unite - we have one common enemy - some of us have more than one - Kurds and Assyrians in Iraq must work together against the Arab majority...

[Rumtaya]

Yes thats right we have to get out the turk people out of mesopotamia or we have to spilt turkey and give them a litle part between the east and west of the land.


look at this map



the dark green if we had that for a state as a beginn it would be very good.
because its hard to get more.

OH YES BELIVE ME there were also planed to have state for assyrians.

at least they didnt hold their word this gays.

as we have been build cities the europes have been on trees and scremead aihhhhh iyah iyahhhh


stupid asholes i dont like europeans

[Diri]

Yes thats right we have to get out the turk people out of mesopotamia or we have to spilt turkey and give them a litle part between the east and west of the land.

- Do you have a plan? Or maybe we should genocide them...?

And what should we do about the Arabs???







Maybe this is the smartest thing to do with Iraq?:

the dark green if we had that for a state as a beginn it would be very good.
because its hard to get more.

Hmm... Yes - Most of the dark green... I am still not ready to accept that the people who already live in Duhok area should leave..

Look at this map:



And this map:



You see the red areas - I think Assyria should be South West of these areas and all the way south to THE BORDER OF LAKE THARTHAR AND TIKRIT... So we divide Northern Iraq between us - You get all the land on the WEST side of Tigris - and we get the land on the EAST side of the Tigris... Your Capital can be Mosul - or you can have your Capital at Ashur...



This is a cute map - Assyria would be "Nineveh", Hatra, Ana - and all the land in between these places - It would be from the River Tirgis to the West on the border with Syria... And when Syria falls - we will have the Northern part and You will have the Eastern part



Assyria LIVES! Kurdistan BREATHES! Armenia SPEAKS!

[Rumtaya]

lool were do you find this maps hahaha funny one.

that of this arab and camal i have seen before.


PS. i did add you in my msn didnt you recive that???????


then i got show you a map of how we would share the northen iraq


i am a christ i dont genozid people i dont do the mistakes those did.

belive me the arabs are killing themself dont need to do something this stuipd camal rider hahaha. if the oil is gone they will be there with nothing more and the european will kick their asses they still dont get it why they got a so many states at least they are all arab ethnic.


and arab is a synonom for gay i have read that in a magazine this jackass fucker


the last sentense very nice one

[Vladimir]

[Rumtaya]

Lol were did you find this picture haha.

i know it i saw the viedo for that day they celebrated the Assyrian New Year this was i think before 3 years if i am not wrong.


that was in Northen Syria and like 13 couples did marry at that day two of them have been Arabs or Kurds i dont remember lol.


by the way the person in that thing there should be King Ashurbainpal and his Wife Shamiram .

at this place assyrians celebrtate very year our new year but this year they didnt cause the goverment didnt allowed cause the kurds made troubles in northen syria and they said we cant let you celebrtate because the kurds might do something that we have our freenes and they aint.

one thing else the first bride couple is from my village Tel Tawil (Athra t Romta)

we are always the first

[abdur]

Nice tradition of the assyrian wedding, that picture is beautiful.

[tomjez]

How fool I was, I tought that constantiople's conquest celebrations were ridiculous....Turks have a lot to learn from assyrians

[Rumtaya]

Nice tradition of the assyrian wedding, that picture is beautiful.

lool thats assyrians of old time how they did wear and this is celebrated on 1st of april the end of Akitu (Assyrian New Years starts) and we dont have that everytiem at weeding that was something special and those who wanted to marry just did deciede to marry at that day .

How fool I was, I tought that constantiople's conquest celebrations were ridiculous....Turks have a lot to learn from assyrians

haha well not only the turks also arabs haha by the way youll see those events soon if well have an assyria and youll say then ohh whats turkey whats greece you should visit Assyria

and my kurdish neighbours your welcome

by the way i have a question if there is a kurdish and assyrian state can we assyrian go to kurds and say hey my friends you have done bad things against us in the first war so pay blood money(and you guys have alot of oil so it will be no problem) we just make it like the jews did to the germans and for sure turkey have the fault for that but kurds did the job.