What was there before the Ottoman/Persian division

[Vladimir]

Kurds always talk about the division of Kurdistan. What was there before the division of "Kurdistan"?

[Piling]

It depends of wich time you talk about. Before 20th century no country was independant, all regions were incorporated in great empires or between sultanates. In fact, the division of Kurdistan had been made with the Treaty of Lausanne, and the we can say that Kurdistan was divided before having been united :

[kurdistani]

The only time that Kurdistan was united administratively was under the Seljuks... It was a province which included not only greater Kurdistan... but Luristan, Armenia and Azerbajian....

Prior to the Ottoman conquest Kurdistan was under the control of the Akkoylu... A Turkic tribal confederation that drew support from hetrodox Muslim elements...

[tomjez]

Actually it is Akkoyunlu (white sheep)

in turkish Akkoylu would mean White Villager or White Peasant

[Piling]

well under Ayyubids' period, a great part of Kurdish land was under Kurdish control too.

[dyaoko]

The only time that Kurdistan was united administratively was under the Seljuks... It was a province which included not only greater Kurdistan... but Luristan, Armenia and Azerbajian....

Prior to the Ottoman conquest Kurdistan was under the control of the Akkoylu... A Turkic tribal confederation that drew support from hetrodox Muslim elements...

can u give us more infromation about it ? or a book which I can see the whole Kurdistan in Akonolnlu?

[kurdistani]

The only time that Kurdistan was united administratively was under the Seljuks... It was a province which included not only greater Kurdistan... but Luristan, Armenia and Azerbajian....

Prior to the Ottoman conquest Kurdistan was under the control of the Akkoylu... A Turkic tribal confederation that drew support from hetrodox Muslim elements...

can u give us more infromation about it ? or a book which I can see the whole Kurdistan in Akonolnlu?

This book has a history of the term Kurdistan and Kurd in it... it is well worth a read...
http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=0791459934

[Vladimir]

The only time that Kurdistan was united administratively was under the Seljuks... It was a province which included not only greater Kurdistan... but Luristan, Armenia and Azerbajian....

Prior to the Ottoman conquest Kurdistan was under the control of the Akkoylu... A Turkic tribal confederation that drew support from hetrodox Muslim elements...

can u give us more infromation about it ? or a book which I can see the whole Kurdistan in Akonolnlu?

This book has a history of the term Kurdistan and Kurd in it... it is well worth a read...
http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=0791459934

LOL< they have it at my university library!! THEY REALLY HAVEEVERYTHING, UNBELIEVABLE!

[ASSYRIA]

All rights reserved.

[Piling]

Don't you know to read ? the texts you stole and put there are not free. They have a copyright, and thax we don't want to have trouble with hysteric American Assyrians howling because we don't respect the copyright.

[ASSYRIA]

Piling,

I find quite interesting that photographs (Kurds at the World Cup 2006) are shown without showing their actual source, and there was no mention of copyrights and legal procedures.

Please have no worries. I take full responsibility for any post and I shall assume the legal consequences.

Long live ASSYRIA! Khaya Atour!

[Piling]

Legally the administrator is responsible, no wil care of you.

And I doubt that aina webmasters who seem to hate these "Kurdish killers of Christians" will be tolerant like other Kurdish sites...

[Vladimir]

Assyria, you are going offtopic here with your regular bullshit. If you can't go ontopic, fuck off.

[kingofmedes]

You dreaming too much, with all respect to Kurdistan Christian, and their heritage, people like you should be thank full to Kurds, you still breathing, you really think with few peoples here and there you can build your imaginary empire, or you just having pain in your ass since 612 BC, well that what was!! You have to get over it. However you brothers Arabs seem to be very kind to you, they can’t handle your imagination either!!!

The glory of Medya ,It’s my blood ,It’s my proud!!!!


“Her tişt ji bu Medya!, Ji bu Kurdistan!”

kingofmedes(Diyako Medya)

[missIndependent]

back to the topic, i dont think kurdistan's ever been united as what we want to have as Kurdistan on the map today
but when we talk about the devision of Kurdistan, it might be reffering to how the great kurdistan is being 5 parted in between 5 countries!
hopefully one day all these parts will join together for one great united independent Kurdistan