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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:16 pm

Radikal and not Zaman :-D , and if you want to track my turkishness sources, I could add that originally that report is a leak published in Milliyet (100% Turkish) BUT no BDP lawyers did contest the veracity of these talking. I suppose they would have done if it was lies, and before posting it I waited for their reactions. At the contrary they only swore that they are not the authors of the leak.

Concerning Reuters it only surveys some translated extracts of all the report and it is too bad, because I would like to read the full report and only after analyzing it. But all Kurds around me were too lazy for reading Öcalan's thoughts.

If I can comfort you, I am also a great reader of Firat News.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:07 pm

Precisely, when I quoted TodayZaman which pretends that france did the killing, as when I quoted Takvin with that moron of Osman Öcalan saying that it was the Kurdish Institute that killed the 3, I MOCKED these papers.

Or do you think I claim : HEY GUYS THEY GOT IT : I AM THE MURDERER ! Great brains ! =))
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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:16 pm

@KurdInEurope Thank you because you have helped to show that my knowledge my Kurdish leaders is not restricted to Kurds in Turkey :ymhug:

You should have had the decency to include posts such as:

Several photos of Kurdish leaders who nobody else ever mentions

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Much of the information that I receive comes from Kurds ;)

True that I often post information from different news sites on here, but I doubt that the BBC, Kirkuk Now, Oil Voice and Firat News could be classed as being Turkish 8-}
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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:53 pm

you still posted them as legit sources


No I posted them as a fantasy news.

You believed that an internal fight happened inside PKK, right?


Concerning Osman Öcalan, the internal fight has started some years ago…


And concerning the killings I believe more to a private murder, for personal reasons.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:12 pm

Absolutely not. I knew that the murder should be someone that the victims knew, because of the structure of the office ( I know the place very well). It could be a double agent working for foreign services in a certain aim (Iran or Syria). Il also could be a problem of black money : Sakine Cansız could have discovered some irregularities in the financial transfers or was a troublemaker for a corrupted network.

At this time, Ömer Güney was not arrested. When it happened ,my theory that the murderer was a well known person in CIK was true. Then I waited for more informations about his personality and who was behind him (obviously he is not a serious agent).

But I have not still worked seriously about that case (I was busy to write something else). At mid-february I read all the things concerning the facts of the murders, and I begin to doubt of the real political motives :

1/ at first killing Sakine Cansız could not stop the process of negotiations. She was not important. Since many years she was nothing in the military decisions in Qandil and had not diplomatic functions in Europe as it seems. She was a 'legendary' figure but not an key in politics. And de facto, her death did not change anything in the negotiations. If some people wanted to ruin the process by murdering someone, it would be easier to kill an important Kurdish politician in Turkey instead of infiltrate during 2 years the Parisian CIK and waiting for a hazardous visit of Cansız (as she lived in Germany why they did not send someone to kill her in Germany ?).

If the PPK would have killed her, they did it when she was in Qandil last summer.

2/ I realized that every one have supposed immediately that Sakine Cansız was the main target because she was the most important. But nothing can prove it at 100%. And the one who was shot with 4 bullets (one in the mouth, as for being sure she was dead) was Fidan Doğan ; and she was the one that Güney knew really. So perhaps she was the main target ( I am not sure, but it might be).

3/ The personality of Güney : he did not claim to be the killer (as Hrant Dink's one for example) and claimed proudly to the police he is from PKK (that's not true, but he wanted to believe it) ; he came willingly to the police office when they summoned him ; he is mentally insane, has brain cancer and is an official disabled person (he got an income from French State for he can not work) ; another interesting fact : he is an amnesic.

So he could be the murderer and in that case, he did it for mysterious insane reasons (and I wait for more psychiatric experts' reports) ; or he was manipulated (by which people ?).

I've written all that thoughts but in French unfortunately for you :

http://sohrawardi.blogspot.fr/2013/02/l ... t-ils.html

(Now Öcalan seems to charge Gülen 's men. I don't see how he could be more aware than other people, as he lives as a prisoner, but Gülen is his main target in the long Imralı leak published in Milliyet)
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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:31 am

Murat Karayilan and Erdal Bohaz, both widely respected and admired :D

No doubt that Murat Karayilan has held the PKK together in the absence of Ocalan. I personally think that it is disrespectful for Murat Karayilan to be made to feel in some way inferior to Ocalan. He is a very intelligent man, and he deserves the leadership :ymapplause:

Erdal Bohaz is a very strong character. Perhaps more in tune with the younger Kurds :ymhug:

In my valued opinion these two people should be recognised as the true leaders of the PKK.

I am sure that many people on here will disagree with me but I believe that these two leaders are far more in touch with what is going on in the world, and with what the Kurds themselves wish for than Ocalan is after 14 years of isolation. Nobody could ever blame Ocalan for what has happened to him, but with the best will in the world Ocalan is out of touch.

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PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:17 am

You forget a couple of very important facts.

1) He has travelled to Turkey a lot of times the last two years.

2) He is a member of MIT since 2010. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i2IJyhkZP4&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   
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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Piling » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:05 am

For someone who swore to keep silent, you are very talkative… :lol:

I've read the story of that Murat Şahin and I mentioned it in my paper. But I don't find him very convincing. I suspect its veracity : this man seems a bit mythomaniac, and his past story, his trouble with justice etc, are not very clear. I wonder if he is not the mirror twin of Güney : a wannabe agent of MIT, as Güney persuaded himself that he is a PKK member.
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PostAuthor: FeyliKurd » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:43 pm

Three great kurdish leaders/politicans. Cemil Bayik (PKK), Serok Apo (PKK) and Nawşirwan Mustafa (Gorran).

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PostAuthor: Anthea » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:04 pm

@ FeyliKurd LOVE your new profile picture :ymapplause:

Nawşirwan Mustafa is someone who I really respect and admire, I think he is the BEST person in the Kurdish parliament :ymhug:

He probably cares more about the Kurds he represents than all the rest of the money grabbing politicians.

The Gorran Movement is well known for it's anti corruption stand, I do not think it is doing very well at the moment, I hope that it becomes stronger.

Unfortunately, not a lot is known about the Gorran Movement outside Kurdistan. I think Nawşirwan Mustafa is BRILLIANT holding his own against the Barzanis, and I am glad to see someone else here supports him :ymapplause:

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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: max_b » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:35 pm

i forgot how to put up pics, bibore


kani yilmaz

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PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:22 am

max_b wrote:i forgot how to put up pics, bibore


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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:17 pm

Siphan Rojhilat

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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Piling » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:26 pm

Like Kani Yilmaz, also killed by the PKK.
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Re: Pictures of Kurdish leaders

PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:39 pm

Piling wrote:Like Kani Yilmaz, also killed by the PKK.

Along with many others X(

The murder of Siphan Rojhilat committed by the PKK

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