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[Londoner]

I have just finished to read it, interesting :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sweet-Nothing- ... 140915484X

I feel lucky to not 'crave' by cutting sugar.

Just read the intro and it seems funny think I will read the book

I will not reading it because the writer doesn't have a clue about fruit benefits. Read the following review:

I applaud the processed sugar free message - but don't demonise one of nature's best gifts to us - wonderful fresh fruit! By Lee-Anne on 5 Jun. 2015
Format: Paperback
An enjoyable and interesting read on a timely subject, and it was great reading for me at a time when I too was at the beginning of my sugar-free journey. However... I winced in dismay every time the author categorised fresh fruit as one of the sugary foods to be avoided. I heartily disagree. On my up and down quest for a healthier diet I found that while eating processed sugar or anything with refined carbs (bread, pastry, pasta) I would be overwhelmed with sugar cravings, even if I hadn't had sugar for a couple of weeks, yet I never get cravings for chocolate and carby foods when I eat whole fruits. When I was a Cadbury bar-a-day girl (the big 200g size) I didn't want fruit - it didn't hit the spot and it didn't taste sweet enough - I wanted chocolate and hobnobs. But now I'm weaned off the white stuff, fruit tastes delicious but without all the cravings, guilt trips and blood sugar blues.

Whole fruits are one of the best foods we can put in our bodies - biologically it is the easiest food source for us to make nutritional use of. To paraphrase Douglas N Graham, 'no one got fat, diabetic, or candida from eating fruit'. Fruit in it's whole form is so full of fibre that the small amount of natural fructose does not cause harm. It is the processed fructose we need to avoid. I eat lots and lots of fruit as part of my now plant based, processed-sugar free diet, and have no problem maintaining a size 8 figure at 40+ years old and having had 4 children, and I don't get ill - the viruses, colds and bugs that do the rounds all pass me by these days. So I know that eating lots of whole fruit does not make you fat and sickly. Eating processed fructose does.

I applaud the processed sugar free message - but don't demonise one of nature's best gifts to us - wonderful fresh fruit!

[Piling]

so 4th day of detox : tired but lost not far from 1 kg.

You are eating a lot of processed food. Fizzy drinks can not replace water and cause dehydration without feeling thirsty. Many diseases come because of dehydration because the patient doesn't feel thirsty. This is why they say: 'You are not ill, you are thirsty'.

You have not explained how you do your detox. But are you sure you are detoxing? detox should make you full of stamina and feel comfortable.

I did not precise that even before, I usually drink more than 1,5 liter of water per day. More often 2,5 l and 4 or 5 cups of tea (sugarless).

My detox consists of suppressing all sweet food and fructose (except from fruits). I don't crave for sugar but I need to eat more now. My body needs fat and proteins.

Today I ate mainly eggplants with tomato juice and yoghurt, flat bread and chicken.

I am not fond of many fruits and I agree they are too sweet. Modern species have been transformed by humans to be less bitter and acid (as wild fruits are). But fresh fruits have fibers so it decrease the bad effect of fructose.

But a true fact if that people who eat huge amount of fruits can have cirrhosis, exactly like alcoholics.

In the contrary I don't follow her when she says that wines and other booze like rhum or whisky are full of sugar. Not much in fact, except sweet wines and liquors. Only cocktails are full of sweet (added syrups, fruit juices, liquor, etc.). Even beer has maltose and not fructose.

[Londoner]

But a true fact if that people who eat huge amount of fruits can have cirrhosis, exactly like alcoholics.

That is not possible because fruits are digested inside digestion system. one of the causes of cirrhosis is too much alcohol because it is digested inside liver. Alcohol digestion goes through too long stages. First it is converted to a sort of stuff like petrol and goes into blood stream. After that the process of digestion starts little by little. Digestion needs enzymes. Too much alcohol exhausts available enzymes. Enzymes are prioritised, brain has the highest and the skin has the lowest. But in the case of alcohol, because it is a threat to life, some functions of the brain, like balance and self control, deprived from enzymes in favour of the liver. but that is not enough. In this case an alcoholic gets a double whammy, he loses control of himself because he is drunken and his liver get damaged because of enzyme shortages.

cirrhosis
sɪˈrəʊsɪs/Submit
noun
a chronic disease of the liver marked by degeneration of cells, inflammation, and fibrous thickening of tissue. It is typically a result of alcoholism or hepatitis.

Source: Wikipedia

[Piling]

Sorry but make researches and you'll see that huge drinker of fruit juices and frugivore ppl can have also cirrhosis. The explosion of fruit juices consommation is not a good thing for public health. In a simple can of apple juice, you swallow the amount of 4 big apples (and many added sugar).

An old good beer is better. Here I find Malt drink, exactly like a non alcoholic beer. Only maltose, sugar less than 2.4 g.

[Londoner]

Sorry but make researches and you'll see that huge drinker of fruit juices and frugivore ppl can have also cirrhosis. The explosion of fruit juices consommation is not a good thing for public health. In a simple can of apple juice, you swallow the amount of 4 big apples (and many added sugar).

An old good beer is better. Here I find Malt drink, exactly like a non alcoholic beer. Only maltose, sugar less than 2.4 g.

Fruit juices with additives do harm but a pure fruit juice drunk immediately provides a lot of benefits without any harm. If you don't drink your fruit juice immediately after being juiced from the fruit it will become oxidated quickly and oxidation harms a lot.

Sugar doesn't harm in its natural form like sugar in fresh fruits and vegetables. But refined sugar does harm because, I think, we eat a lot of it without being aware of it. For example a can of fizzy drink contains two to three teaspoons of sugar and every one drinks a lot of fizzy drinks every day. In addition to that all processed food, which makes about over 80% of our food, contains a lot of sugar.

But I am not sure if any sort of fruits or fruit juices can cause cirrhosis, which is a disease of liver. It seems this disease happens because of alcohol digestion in the liver and other diseases. All other foods, except alcohol, are digested in the mouth and stomach. So they can not cause any harm to liver.

[Anthea]

The natural sugars in fruit may not be harmful but they are fattening

I can vouch for that fact and so can my waistline

[Londoner]

The natural sugars in fruit may not be harmful but they are fattening

I can vouch for that fact and so can my waistline

Natural sugar has nothing to do with weight gain, you gain weight because of the wrong diet and low nutrition.

http://www.reach120years.uk/lose-weight.html

I have been eating for the last three years two large bowels of fruit salad with fermented vegetables But now I am lighter than three years ago. I was about 70kg, now I am 65kg.

http://www.reach120years.uk/kimchied-fruit-salad.html

[Piling]

Fructose is assimilated by liver, not like other sugars. So when the liver has to assimilate a huge amount of fructose = transform it in energy, it can not in the same time assimilate fat. So it stocks fat.

That's the reason why fructose is more harmful (at big dose) than other sugars like saccharose : if you eat too much fructose, you just have a fat liver, as gooses and ducks : how to make 'foie gras' ? By obliging ducks and gooses to swallow huge quantities of corn (fructose).

Of course if you eat few fat, your liver has only to work with fructose. But even in that case, it works too much, like an alcoholic makes liver exhausting to assimilate alcohol. So a cirrhosis might happen.

@Anthea : chocolate is less dangerous than fruit juice.

[Londoner]

Apparently if you eat a lot of pure fructose, like sugar, it can hurt the liver. but eating fruits and others like honey shouldn't be a cause for worry because they don't contain excessive amounts. The followings taken from Wikipedia:


When fructose is consumed in the form of sucrose, it is digested(broken down) and then absorbed as free fructose. As sucrose comes into contact with the membrane of the small intestine, the enzyme sucrase catalyzes the cleavage of sucrose to yield one glucose unit and one fructose unit, which are then each absorbed.
Fructose, or fruit sugar, is a simple ketonic monosaccharide found in many plants, where it is often bonded to glucose to form the disaccharide sucrose. It is one of the three dietary monosaccharides, along with glucose and galactose, that are absorbed directly into the bloodstream during digestion. Fructose was discovered by French chemist Augustin-Pierre Dubrunfaut in 1847.[4][5] The name "fructose" was coined in 1857 by the English chemist William Miller.[6] Pure, dry fructose is a very sweet, white, odorless, crystalline solid and is the most water-soluble of all the sugars.[7] Fructose is found in honey, tree and vine fruits, flowers, berries, and most root vegetables.
Commercially, fructose is frequently derived from sugar cane, sugar beets, and corn. Crystalline fructose is the monosaccharide, dried, ground, and of high purity. High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a mixture of glucose and fructose as monosaccharides. Sucrose is a compound with one molecule of glucose covalently linked to one molecule of fructose. All forms of fructose, including fruits and juices, are commonly added to foods and drinks for palatability and taste enhancement, and for browning of some foods, such as baked goods.
About 240,000 tonnes of crystalline fructose are produced annually.[8]
There are speculations that excessive fructose consumption is a cause of insulin resistance, obesity,[9] elevated LDL cholesterol and triglycerides, leading to metabolic syndrome,[10][11][12] type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease.[13] However, the European Food Safety Authority stated that fructose is preferred over sucrose and glucose in sugar-sweetened foods and beverages because of its lower effect on post-prandial blood glucose levels.[14] Further, the UK's Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition in 2015 disputed the claims of fructose causing metabolic disorders, stating that "there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate that fructose intake... leads to adverse health outcomes independent of any effects related to its presence as a component of total and free sugars."[15]

[Anthea]

Anthea : chocolate is less dangerous than fruit juice.

Thank you for te info

Perhaps I will start treating myself to a bar every now and then

[Londoner]

chocolate is less dangerous than fruit juice

That is impossible. Chocolate is a processed food and highly oxidated. Because it contacts air for a long time above room temperature during processing. One of the hidden dangers of chocolate it speeds up biological ageing because it is full of free radicals. Fruit juice if drunk Immediately after being juiced will not cause any harm.

[Anthea]

chocolate is less dangerous than fruit juice

That is impossible. Chocolate is a processed food and highly oxidated. Because it contacts air for a long time above room temperature during processing. One of the hidden dangers of chocolate it speeds up biological ageing because it is full of free radicals. Fruit juice if drunk Immediately after being juiced will not cause any harm.

Londoner you are a party pooper

Just when I was thinking about going out to buy myself some chocolate for the first time in over a year - you have put me right off the idea

[Piling]

Drinking fruit juice is drinking the same amount of sugar than a coke can and it is also like eating more than 1 kg of fruits (fructose but not the fibers and vitamins).

It is harmful because fruit juice addicts are able to drink more than a chocolate addict does : liquid does not sent to our brain a signal of STOP I am full so fast.

[Anthea]

Riddle of how 1,700 tons of mauka honey are made...
but 10,000 are sold

Honey originates in New Zealand but demand is higher than supply

Some producers appear to be substituting cheap standard honey

Popular because of its anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory effects

More jars of expensive manuka honey are being sold in Britain and around the world than are being produced

The prized honey originates from New Zealand, yet demand is so high that supply cannot keep up.

The net result is that some producers appear to be substituting cheap standard honey.

The honey is only produced by bees feeding on the manuka tree which grows throughout New Zealand.

Manuka honey is feted because of its claimed anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory effects and can cost as much as £90 a pot.

Celebrities like actress Scarlett Johansson, model Elizabeth Jagger and singer Katherine Jenkins all swear by the ‘liquid gold’ honey.

Jagger, 32, applies it as lip balm to protect her gums from germs and Jenkins, 36, dissolves it in hot water to help her singing voice. Meanwhile Johansson, 31, uses it as a face mask to soften her skin and 'pull away' any impurities.

Such is the appeal, the some supermarkets have found it necessary to put electronic tags on pots to trap shoplifters.

UK consumers hoping to take advantage of its claimed healing qualities may not be getting value for money, despite an attempted crackdown on bogus produce.

The Food Standard Agency's National Food Crime Unit found that a third of test samples labelled as manuka honey in the UK were 'non compliant'.

Research by the main honey producers' organisation in New Zealand has revealed that 1,700 tonnes of manuka are produced there each year.

However, it is estimated that as much as 10,000 tonnes of honey labelled as manuka are sold every year around the world.

Attempts are being made by the New Zealand Ministry for Primary Industries - where the honey is produced - to tackle the number of bogus jars flooding the market.

These include holding products prior to export but a leading producer has said not enough is being down.

Oxford-based Rowse Honey - one of the UK's biggest honey companies - says the current manuka honey labelling guidelines are 'flawed'.

Manuka honey contains a unique and vital ingredient called methylglyoxal (MGO) which is responsible for the honey's Non-Peroxide Activity (NPA).

This is only found in authentic manuka honey and is an indicator of its antibacterial properties which, according to some experts, means it can be used to treat wounds and aid digestion.

Kirstie Jamieson, Rowse Honey Marketing Director, called for tighter regulations following a report on the state of the industry in the retail bible The Grocer.

She said: ‘As the UK's brand leader in authentic Manuka honey, Rowse is committed to ensuring that consumers can buy Manuka with confidence.

‘The current MPI guidelines have been ineffective and unfortunately legitimised bad practise with consumers buying jars with vastly different levels of the honey's unique characteristic - Non-peroxide Activity (NPA).

‘In the last year the industry has seen a relatively poor crop at a time of growing demand which has led to further price increases.

‘This combination of factors could potentially encourage further malpractice and therefore tighter regulations, led by robust and proven science, are needed if we are to protect the value of authentic Manuka Honey.

‘By the end of 2016 we hope that the MPI guidelines will address the critical point of correctly defining the characteristics unique to Manuka including the level of NPA that can be found in the genuine product while taking into account advances in scientific testing.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -sold.html

[Londoner]

Unread postAuthor: Anthea » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:26 am

Riddle of how 1,700 tons of mauka honey are made...
but 10,000 are sold

I did suspect something like that long ago after seeing fraud squad confiscating artificial honey. I bought manuka honey a few times but after I discovered organic honey I forgot manuka honey.